CASEY: Rd 17 vs Sandringham

[old55 23,838]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Saints have never used Sandringham as a training ground.

Not sure why but I suspect the ground is too small and has cricket obligations during summer.

Sandringham were fiercely independent when we were aligned with them. It was a battle to develop our younger players.

The ground was lengthened a few years back with an excavation at the southern Sautner end.

Cricket is not played there.

The Saints have been busy yoyoing between Moorabbin and Seaford to trai there.

I don't recall Sandringham restricting MFC player development. In fact at the time when we won 3 or 4 flags there I thought a successful culture may breed success.

I am biased living 200m from TBO - the alliance years were great days for me.

Edited July 28, 2019 by Fifty-5

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

18 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

just some perspective....

how many of those were grabbing the ball from the ruck

It's a good tactic sometimes but it can be very erratic.

The hit outs were rarely to advantage but that more reflected the absence of Casey mids.

He didn't have a specialist ruck as an opponent

Your positivity is so inspiring, what you meant to say 'a bit of personal perspective'

[Sorry kids 635]

I just made it in time for most of the last quarter. Bloke at the gate took my $10 and stuck it in his claw with the rest of his wad. No ticket, thanks very much. No wonder they did not want MFC upsetting the apple cart. 

As to the game, a pleasure to watch on a beautiful day. Made me remember why I love footy. 

Game Plan   - Hard to see one, just noticed some adjustment for the wind and Melksham instructing Lockhart and LeFau where to stand.

Preuss completely dominated and begs the question...…... however I tried to confine myself to the game at hand. Melksham looked fit and ready to go. No one else greatly stood out but I didn't notice many errors either. Kielty took a good mark but this is his level. Someone said Bradke played well early but not while I was there. He looks ok when the ball is in close, as expected with his basketball background but uncomfortable when it comes toward from afar. I hope he makes it but will really need to be committed. No problems with him having another year or two though as if he fills out it could make all the difference. I hope we do not fall for the wrap on LeFau, does not look clean enough although he did kick a goal while I was there. Great to get a win, and special thanks to the nuff, nuff no 16 for Sandy who gave away the free off the ball in the goalsquare in the last.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,049]

1 minute ago, Sorry kids said:

I just made it in time for most of the last quarter. Bloke at the gate took my $10 and stuck it in his claw with the rest of his wad. No ticket, thanks very much. No wonder they did not want MFC upsetting the apple cart. 

As to the game, a pleasure to watch on a beautiful day. Made me remember why I love footy. 

Game Plan   - Hard to see one, just noticed some adjustment for the wind and Melksham instructing Lockhart and LeFau where to stand.

Preuss completely dominated and begs the question...…... however I tried to confine myself to the game at hand. Melksham looked fit and ready to go. No one else greatly stood out but I didn't notice many errors either. Kielty took a good mark but this is his level. Someone said Bradke played well early but not while I was there. He looks ok when the ball is in close, as expected with his basketball background but uncomfortable when it comes toward from afar. I hope he makes it but will really need to be committed. No problems with him having another year or two though as if he fills out it could make all the difference. I hope we do not fall for the wrap on LeFau, does not look clean enough although he did kick a goal while I was there. Great to get a win, and special thanks to the nuff, nuff no 16 for Sandy who gave away the free off the ball in the goalsquare in the last.

There was wind? I'm in the "leafy eastern suburbs" and there hasn't been a breath of the stuff all day.

[Sorry kids 635]

Just now, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

There was wind? I'm in the "leafy eastern suburbs" and there hasn't been a breath of the stuff all day.

Leafy gentle bay breeze, no effect on the game really

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

1 hour ago, waynewussell said:

Went a bit early Cell...

Only watched until half time. I stand by all of my assessments besides Preuss. Sounds like he lifted in the 3rd quarter. His opponent was hurting him on the spread, which has been his big area of concern. 

[DeeSpencer 26,328]

Only saw brief patches but Hore looked good, Melksham a class above, liked a couple of things from Jordon. And I missed what might've been a rough start but Keilty looked good on what I saw down back, he has to be a better option than Oscar? Couldn't fault JKH's work rate from what I saw. Real shame that the Weid went down.

Casey have a final round bye, 2 winnable games and then a huge task of beating top of the table Richmond to make finals. Not out of it but unlikely.

 

[Vagg 2,449]

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Nailed a few green tins in the process. 

I guess that explains the sideways pic you posted!  LOL

[jnrmac 20,276]

Good to see Casey rally to win against a side that had lost 6 in a row now 7.

Inspiring stuff.

[DemonDave 1,096]

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Jack Steven is a mongrel 

How many cheap hits did he dish out to Jimmy Munro today? To top it off for Steven, Munro ended up with 29 touches, 8 tackles, double figure clearances and 9 inside 50s, BOG yet again from Jimmy Munro, he's really having another superb season

[Diamond_Jim 12,693]

1 hour ago, Fifty-5 said:

don't recall Sandringham restricting MFC player development. In fact at the time when we won 3 or 4 flags there I thought a successful culture may breed success.

Sauntner v Newton and there were others

Sandy appointed the coach and selected the players... we walked away because they didn't deliver

[Redleg 41,963]

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Good to see Casey rally to win against a side that had lost 6 in a row now 7.

Inspiring stuff.

True to form look for the negative.

[Diamond_Jim 12,693]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Your positivity is so inspiring, what you meant to say 'a bit of personal perspective'

come on Saty... Sandringham had no recognised ruck

Many of his kicks were from grabbing the ball out of the ruck

They are objective statements

[jnrmac 20,276]

17 minutes ago, Redleg said:

True to form look for the negative.

Nah I am really inspired. This club is going places.

[McQueen 17,867]

32 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Only saw brief patches but Hore looked good, Melksham a class above, liked a couple of things from Jordon. And I missed what might've been a rough start but Keilty looked good on what I saw down back, he has to be a better option than Oscar? Couldn't fault JKH's work rate from what I saw. Real shame that the Weid went down.

Casey have a final round bye, 2 winnable games and then a huge task of beating top of the table Richmond to make finals. Not out of it but unlikely.

 

Hore reads the play so well. I watched him  off the ball postioning up the line as the ball was turned over. He just appears out of nowhere, floats in and clunks it. Times it beautifully. 

[Supermercado 2,802]

Can't understand the point of playing Preuss as a tap ruckman against no competition when we know he can do that. It's holding marks in the forward line and kicking goals that will make him useful while Max is around. We run Casey now, let's use them to our advantage.

[pitmaster 3,589]

Preuss took multiple contested marks. Worth another go. He clunked 'em.

Melksham looked ready.

Stretch looked a class above the level but not pacy enough.

[dees-picable 211]

11 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

Can't understand the point of playing Preuss as a tap ruckman against no competition when we know he can do that. It's holding marks in the forward line and kicking goals that will make him useful while Max is around. We run Casey now, let's use them to our advantage.

Press played a great game, and having him run the whole field must help him improve his fitness/tank to take him to another level....

[Diamond_Jim 12,693]

1 minute ago, dees-picable said:

Press played a great game, and having him run the whole field must help him improve his fitness/tank to take him to another level....

you can get that fitness by having him run 10k each day.

He has to develop another string to his bow and that is what Supermercado has quite rightly raised

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

come on Saty... Sandringham had no recognised ruck

Many of his kicks were from grabbing the ball out of the ruck

They are objective statements

So he took advantage you mean, which was what he was meant to do, he will not always come up against one of the top rucks. He is still young in terms of games experience, doesn't matter what experience he gets

Edited July 28, 2019 by Satyriconhome

[old55 23,838]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Sauntner v Newton and there were others

Sandy appointed the coach and selected the players... we walked away because they didn't deliver

Is that the best example you could come up with?  Nick Sautner was one of the greatest VFA/VFL FFs ever. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Sautner

Edited July 28, 2019 by Fifty-5

[picket fence 17,992]

8 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Is that the best example you could come up with?  Nick Sautner was one of the greatest VFA/VFL FFs ever. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Sautner

And totally stuffed Juice Newton's development by Sandy's insistence that Sautner Play FF Which I know was totally against what MFC Wanted. They just refused to budge on this! Just refused OUTRIGHT!!

[chook fowler 19,694]

When Bradtke gets a body, look out. Seems well coordinated for someone so tall. Could be a hard to handle forward in a couple of years.

[bing181 9,425]

1 hour ago, dees-picable said:

having him run the whole field must help him improve his fitness/tank to take him to another level....

Not necessarily. Really difficult to improve on base fitness in-season, as it's hard to get the load/recovery balance right (too much of the former, not enough of the latter). Thus the importance of cough pre-season cough.

Running around would help him get more used to what he's currently doing and to managing that, but improvement ... hard to say. Will be a good assignment for Burgess.

[bing181 9,425]

Criminal that the Weid is injured again, he desperately needed a full match under his belt. Season turning into a wash-out for him development-wise, he's really struggled to string matches together.