10 hours ago, TGR said:

There has to be collective responsibility for the loss of Howe and Dunn.  There has to be collective responsibility for the lack of outside speed.  We also blinked when negotiating with Adelaide (2 first rounders in a super-draft), and to a lesser extent Freo.

 

 

You forgot to mention collective responsibility for the recruitment of Jordan Lewis. Not feeling yourself today?

Edited July 24, 20195 yr by John Demonic

12 hours ago, TGR said:

There has to be collective responsibility for the loss of Howe and Dunn.  There has to be collective responsibility for the lack of outside speed.  We also blinked when negotiating with Adelaide (2 first rounders in a super-draft), and to a lesser extent Freo.

 

 

Lever is a smart and cleaner footballer than Howe. Howe has had a great past 2 season but he's also 4 years ahead of Lever.

Dunn was a loss. Not quite sure why we got rid of him. Would have been handy this year and last.

We've built a super backline that's played maybe 3 games together. Given our performances across the ground, recruiring May and JK in exchange for Hogan was a reasonable deal at the time. I don't think Goodwin and co could foresee our midfield falling from a top 4 caliber to a bottom 4 caliber overnight.

4 hours ago, John Demonic said:

You forgot to mention collective responsibility for the recruitment of Jordan Lewis. Not feeling yourself today?

Feeling himself too much is the issue JD.

Surely we must ask what role Tony Abbott had in all of this.

 

Look . . . your analysis is spot on Hellofatime. But you're only scratching the surface. I think an independent review is required to investigate the role that Russian interference plays in the minds of the players and officials, the ongoing influence of the global financial crisis, the untimely and tragic death of Lady Dianna Spencer, the long term consequence of the Chappaquiddick incident on the club and how the Bay of Pigs has psychologically scared the organisation for decades. Only then can we be confident we have gotten to the bottom of this fiasco. 

19 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Look . . . your analysis is spot on Hellofatime. But you're only scratching the surface. I think an independent review is required to investigate the role that Russian interference plays in the minds of the players and officials, the ongoing influence of the global financial crisis, the untimely and tragic death of Lady Dianna Spencer, the long term consequence of the Chappaquiddick incident on the club and how the Bay of Pigs has psychologically scared the organisation for decades. Only then can we be confident we have gotten to the bottom of this fiasco. 

Ronnie Wood replacing Mick Taylor in the Stones...?

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Ronnie Wood replacing Mick Taylor in the Stones...?

Undoubtedly would have had an impact I would have thought SWYL. And I think Dee Dubya is onto something . . . I'd have Tony head up the inquiry. Can't think of a more qualified fellow. 

Just now, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Undoubtedly would have had an impact I would have thought SWYL. And I think Dee Dubya is onto something . . . I'd have Tony head up the inquiry. Can't think of a more qualified fellow. 

Yes, even as a young 11 year i felt a great disturbance in the Force when MT left the band. 

Tony is on only $6,000 a week so i am sure he could use some extra ca$h

It doesn’t really matter who is to blame , because if we are in the same situation this time next year ............ the last person out can turn off the lights!

On 7/24/2019 at 1:27 PM, Hellofatime said:

Why?  They didn't finish the job!  Our club, our football team, the team we love so much, the team who has not won a premiership since 1964, is enough reason for this to be so important.  This game was born in Melbourne, we are one of the pioneers of the sport, this sport we treat as a religion.  Paul and Peter, you will have let us down badly, if we are not in a better position than when you left us, and sadly, at this time this is how it is.

There's some weird logic going on here. Usually the concern is when someone leaves an organisation in a worse state than when they found it. But blaming someone for events that occurred after they leave and for which they cannot possibly be held accountable is, well, bizarre. It's like saying it's John Lennon's fault that The Beatles never reformed after he was shot.

Darren Burgess saw this thread and signed up.

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes, even as a young 11 year i felt a great disturbance in the Force when MT left the band. 

Tony is on only $6,000 a week so i am sure he could use some extra ca$h

Look SWYL . . . Tone is cheap at double the price for this task. And if he performs well and does find Roos and PJ responsible for the current malaise, I suggest he undertaken further related investigations. Was Bradman's unavailable what cost us the Cricket World Cup earlier this month? 

On 7/24/2019 at 4:48 PM, Rusty Nails said:

this is brilliant

51 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Look SWYL . . . Tone is cheap at double the price for this task. And if he performs well and does find Roos and PJ responsible for the current malaise, I suggest he undertaken further related investigations. Was Bradman's unavailable what cost us the Cricket World Cup earlier this month? 

to be fair bradman went on to be a selector and on the ACB board so yes QD - bradman is to blame like Jackson and Roos!

I thought we were still blaming Norm Smith’s curse, the Committee that sacked him and Jack Watts???

yes the Smith Curse - it's still there - how do we get rid of Smith Curse?

 

What did the baseball team do to get rid of the Bambino Curse?

12 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I thought we were still blaming Norm Smith’s curse, the Committee that sacked him and Jack Watts???

I blame the 1965 equivalent of demonland and the “Is Norm Smith the right guy” topic.

I think the answer to this is 42

Lets face it.
Roos and PJ were only mercenaries whos hearts weren't really in it.

 

On 7/24/2019 at 8:52 PM, McQueen said:

Welcome to Demonland, Perty!

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On 7/24/2019 at 1:27 PM, Hellofatime said:

Why?  They didn't finish the job!  Our club, our football team, the team we love so much, the team who has not won a premiership since 1964, is enough reason for this to be so important.  This game was born in Melbourne, we are one of the pioneers of the sport, this sport we treat as a religion.  Paul and Peter, you will have let us down badly, if we are not in a better position than when you left us, and sadly, at this time this is how it is.

Hello to you too, Fatima!