Round 13 Non MFC Games

[Demonland 65,968]

Which results assist us in making 2019 respectable? *Whispering* Which results help us net pick #1?

[whatwhat say what 19,310]

Cows

Dorks

Aints

Pear

Footscray

GW$

[Diamond_Jim 11,941]

Big game for the Toiges tonight..hoping they can do it

Of course the game that has the biggest impact on us is Blues v Doggies and it isn't for the fight to make the finals !!

Edited June 13, 2019 by Diamond_Jim

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

Suns and Blues big chances this weekend. If both get up the Dees will be 18th by Saturday night.

[Kent 2,605]

11 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Suns and Blues big chances this weekend. If both get up the Dees will be 18th by Saturday night.

Yes Matsuo I realised that last night. Another ignominious achievement. Prelim  to cellar in 12 months.

Gee I love this club.

[binman 38,827]

If you believe  some of the posters  on DL, jenkins is an average player. I wish our average players kicked bags of 3 or more goals three weeks running.

Edited June 13, 2019 by binman

[Dee Zephyr 17,844]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

If you some of the posters  on DL, jenkins is an average player. I wish our average players kicked bags of 3 or more goals three weeks running.

A six week stint in the SANFL certainly worked for him binman, came back on a mission. Unfortunate he hurt his knee very late in the game, will miss some games now. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

If you believe  some of the posters  on DL, jenkins is an average player. I wish our average players kicked bags of 3 or more goals three weeks running.

Jenkins is a good player and has proven ability over multiple years. Clever body on body, sound kicking action even from long range. He’s a true gorilla at 200cm. Torched us and burned Richmond last night. We could do a lot worse if he’s keen for a move.

[rjay 23,968]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

If you believe  some of the posters  on DL, jenkins is an average player. I wish our average players kicked bags of 3 or more goals three weeks running.

If you believe his coach that was true...

He spent 6 weeks in the SANFL for an attitude adjustment.

The way Jenkins played last night was what you should expect from a player of his size.

He has too often played for the easy over the back goal, last night he used his size to break packs and take marks.

The one caveat, it was against a very undersized Richmond defence.

 

 

[jumbo returns 6,515]

20 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Jenkins is a good player and has proven ability over multiple years. Clever body on body, sound kicking action even from long range. He’s a true gorilla at 200cm. Torched us and burned Richmond last night. We could do a lot worse if he’s keen for a move.

Please MB...stop....just stop....

[binman 38,827]

29 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

If you believe his coach that was true...

He spent 6 weeks in the SANFL for an attitude adjustment.

The way Jenkins played last night was what you should expect from a player of his size.

He has too often played for the easy over the back goal, last night he used his size to break packs and take marks.

The one caveat, it was against a very undersized Richmond defence.

 

 

His coach never thought he was average. Playing average perhaps. But not average. So he sent him back to the 2s to find some form. which he evidently found.

Some posters used their (flawed) assessment of his ability as further evidence of how badly omac played ('let a total spud kick 2 on him!'). He then kicks 3 on Phil Davis (supported by a defence that was  not under manned) , arguably the best kpd in the game with rance out. And four more last night.

So omac was beaten by a pretty good player in good form, as evidenced by his next two games.

Edited June 13, 2019 by binman

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,347]

If it's good for Jenkins (a more proven forward commodity than T Mac) to have a spell in the magoos, then surely it's ok for T Mac to have a spell down there as well to find some much needed form.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,347]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Some posters used their assessment of his ability as further evidence of how badly omac played ('let a total spud kick 3 on him!'). He then kicks 3 on Phil Davis (supported by a defence that was  not under manned) , arguably the best kpd in the game with rance out. And four more last night.

So omac was beaten by a pretty good player in good form, as evidenced by his next two games.

He kicked 3 on Davis

FYI Jenkins only kicked 2 on O Mac.

[binman 38,827]

3 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If it's good for Jenkins (a more proven forward commodity than T Mac) to have a spell in the magoos, then surely it's ok for T Mac to have a spell as down there as well to find some much needed form.

100% agree. Thst is what the 2s are for.

That said i hope they give Tmac a month off to get right. He is clearly out of form, bust just as clearly carrying something 

Edited June 13, 2019 by binman

[Lucifers Hero 37,227]

 

12 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If it's good for Jenkins (a more proven forward commodity than T Mac) to have a spell in the magoos, then surely it's ok for T Mac to have a spell down there as well to find some much needed form.

Agreed.

Ollie Wines has spent a few weeks in the twos, moreso to get his touch and fitness back.  But if is good enough for him as captain (and Hawks ex captain Roughy) it is good enough for TMac, our co-captains and every other player who is not performing over a few weeks or lacking fitness.  Season is lost.  There should be no exceptions.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[rjay 23,968]

21 minutes ago, binman said:

His coach never thought he was average. Playing average perhaps. But not average. So he sent him back to the 2s to find some form. which he evidently found.

Some posters used their (flawed) assessment of his ability as further evidence of how badly omac played ('let a total spud kick 2 on him!'). He then kicks 3 on Phil Davis (supported by a defence that was  not under manned) , arguably the best kpd in the game with rance out. And four more last night.

So omac was beaten by a pretty good player in good form, as evidenced by his next two games.

No, but he didn't like the way he was playing.

That's what lets him down...I've often said he plays like a small man in a big mans body, last night he played the way he should.

It wasn't just form, it's the way he goes about it and there's an obvious change.

..by the way agree with you on Phil Davis, I'm a big fan.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

33 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Please MB...stop....just stop....

A 200cm forward/ruck who has kicked nearly 300 goals going at 2 a game over a 7 year career. Name anyone comparable we’ve had at Melbourne in 20 years.

He’s not Wayne Carey but to intimate he can’t play is laughable JR.

[binman 38,827]

18 minutes ago, rjay said:

No, but he didn't like the way he was playing.

That's what lets him down...I've often said he plays like a small man in a big mans body, last night he played the way he should.

 

Last night, and the previous two games.

Agree he hasn't always used his strength to advantage. Gets around the ground well though for a bit fella.

I really hope his knee is ok. It looked awful and it was made worse by the fact the game was dead. Is there any update?

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

39 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Ollie Wines has spent a few weeks in the twos, moreso to get his touch and fitness back.  But if is good enough for him as captain (and Hawks ex captain Roughy) it is good enough for TMac, our co-captains and every other player who is not performing over a few weeks or lacking fitness.  Season is lost.  There should be no exceptions.

OR .... before we get too fancy and la-di-dah ... maybe the real problem is simply that we're not attacking the ball hard enough?

[dees189227 10,909]

Hoping the hawks smash the bummers 

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

I am somewhat amused to see Scully decline to tackle in two consecutive contests that his running ability took him to.  All the running in the world doesn't help if you squib once you get there. 

Bonus that he then had a free run and bounce through the middle and stuffed up the kick  ?

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

9 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I am somewhat amused to see Scully decline to tackle in two consecutive contests that his running ability took him to.  All the running in the world doesn't help if you squib once you get there. 

Bonus that he then had a free run and bounce through the middle and stuffed up the kick  ?

Hawthorn will be middle of the road for at least another five years so at least we an take some solace that the little plick will never play in a GF.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,470]

Bruce: “Jakie, Jakie, Jakiiiiiieeeeee...(splat)”

Edited June 14, 2019 by Ethan Tremblay

[whatwhat say what 19,310]

this is another example of there being too many teams and too many average players

the skills; what skills?

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

I don’t like watching footy at Docklands stadium  ... even on TV.