whatwhat say what 23,855 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 he's barely fit enough to run out three-quarters of a vfl game and blows up after a half of afl his fitness level is coming from a long, long way back 3 Quote
buck_nekkid 6,101 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 For those that wondered why he came to Melbourne, I can only assume that he will be developed by the best ruckman in the game to take over the mantle in a couple of years. For now, Max is king of the heap. Preuss is no challenger for the crown. Let him develop, get a few tastes, and really get to work on his game so that he becomes an absolute beast. There will be times he gets a run in the firsts with Max, but I think he is still 2 seasons away from really being the ruckman we want. Preuss will be mid-20’s and fit for purpose. Max will be ready to perhaps for the understudy to surpass him. He is also insurance (although, atm , not brilliant cover) 5 Quote
Pennant St Dee 13,452 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Pruess becomes first ruck option if Gawn is injured Pruess does not have the mobility to play as a permanent forward whilst giving Gawn a chop out nor is he that good a mark to play that role Pruess does not have the tank to run out an AFL game as first ruck option Forget the SCG it isn't big enough a ground to expose his weaknesses You will see a trimmer Pruess next season and beyond 6 Quote
bing181 9,473 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Moonshadow said: The VFL report on the AFL website said he dominated this week, 40+ hitouts Except that: - that's pretty well all he did - he offers next to nothing around the ground (11 disposals, 4 marks 2 weeks back; 9 disposals, 3 marks last week) - he offers next to nothing up forward (total score for the last 2 VFL matches is 1 point. Also, see above) - we have a ruckman - he would be given the runaround/run off his feet in the firsts against AFL-standard rucks - North Melbourne didn't get rid of him for nothing Quote
Mel Bourne 4,541 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, bing181 said: Except that: - that's pretty well all he did - he offers next to nothing around the ground (11 disposals, 4 marks 2 weeks back; 9 disposals, 3 marks last week) - he offers next to nothing up forward (total score for the last 2 VFL matches is 1 point. Also, see above) - we have a ruckman - he would be given the runaround/run off his feet in the firsts against AFL-standard rucks - North Melbourne didn't get rid of him for nothing Give the big lad a chance to develop. Like many posters have pointed out, he’s got access to the best player in the league for what he’s aspiring to become. 2 Quote
What 18,810 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Easy to forget that the man mountain Preuss is still only 23. 1 Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 9 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said: he's barely fit enough to run out three-quarters of a vfl game and blows up after a half of afl his fitness level is coming from a long, long way back Aha! Now we are starting to hit the nail on the head. Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, bing181 said: Except that: - that's pretty well all he did - he offers next to nothing around the ground (11 disposals, 4 marks 2 weeks back; 9 disposals, 3 marks last week) - he offers next to nothing up forward (total score for the last 2 VFL matches is 1 point. Also, see above) - we have a ruckman - he would be given the runaround/run off his feet in the firsts against AFL-standard rucks - North Melbourne didn't get rid of him for nothing Tick. Tick. Tick. Tick. And Tick. Do we all get it now? Quote
ManDee 7,395 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said: you may be right but the enigma is whether in combination with Gawn the two could could be the new Bogey and Mccall. Let's face it.. the season is gone... it's time to dance ? and then it dawned on me, Not much of a ruck duo though. Edited June 4, 2019 by ManDee Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, ManDee said: ? and then it dawned on me, Not much of a ruck duo though. I dont know but they were pretty good in the clinches from memory? 2 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, Kent said: I dont know but they were pretty good in the clinches from memory? good inside mid Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,548 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 12 hours ago, It's Time said: To counter that argument. They made him play when he couldn't lift his arm above his chest. Bizarre decision. Was an incredibly gutsy effort to be out there at all. Looks like they damned him for it too. What were they thinking? Almost as bad as what they did to J Smith. Fair call. 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,548 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: How did TMac go that day? Pathetic, like pretty much every other week this season. 1 Quote
Smokey 4,391 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Not sure why people are so impatient to see him on the park. He's not exactly a polished player. If he's the answer to our forward line woes then we have far more serious issues. I'd rather get games into, you know, our actual true forwards like Weed, Tmac and to a lesser exent Tim Smith (who I think has been contributing well when he's out there). Pruess is a backup ruckman, not a KPF. Quote
Skuit 10,031 Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 I'm in the Preuss camp. Small sample size, but he's created goals from nothing when we need them and at least looks close to taking a grab rather than just sticking his hands toward the ball with eyes half closed. Keeps one defender deep. Can physically hurt the opposition. Has the ability to tap to advantage. But forget the second ruck discussion, fitness, and VFL form - Braydon still offers far more as simply a forward right now than what Tmac currently does. It's not like Tomald is the key to us trapping it in. We have looked far better up front this year when Tom has been absent - and while I was happy enough to overlook it before, he keeps getting in the way thinking he's some sort of extractor at forward scrums. Would be great to see Braydon somehow go head-to-head with Cox, like in some bizarre two-metre tagging role. All we are saying, is give Preuss a chance. 4 1 1 Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,165 Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Skuit said: I'm in the Preuss camp. Small sample size, but he's created goals from nothing when we need them and at least looks close to taking a grab rather than just sticking his hands toward the ball with eyes half closed. Keeps one defender deep. Can physically hurt the opposition. Has the ability to tap to advantage. But forget the second ruck discussion, fitness, and VFL form - Braydon still offers far more as simply a forward right now than what Tmac currently does. It's not like Tomald is the key to us trapping it in. We have looked far better up front this year when Tom has been absent - and while I was happy enough to overlook it before, he keeps getting in the way thinking he's some sort of extractor at forward scrums. Would be great to see Braydon somehow go head-to-head with Cox, like in some bizarre two-metre tagging role. All we are saying, is give Preuss a chance. Average ground ball gets inside 50 to Rnd 9. Tom not even on the radar...Pruess @ 5. Oh, leads our goal kicking averages also. Not bad for an unfit wanna be who can barely play out 3 quarters. Imagine how much better he'll be when he manages 4! Edited June 5, 2019 by Rusty Nails 2 2 1 Quote
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