Umpires hate Melbourne

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, GCDee said:

Barry Hall....

No doubt a good chunk of It GCD!  Forgot about BBB Barry

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

I've seen that table quite a few times but only today noticed the Dogs in 16. Off the charts!

[Macca 16,935]

42 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

I've seen that table quite a few times but only today noticed the Dogs in 16. Off the charts!

"The more you explain it,  the more I don't understand"

Mark Twain

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

6 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

 

Have these stats been tweeted or insta'd or whatever'd to the afl feed?

Maybe to Gerard on Sen?

Let's start a conversation for change...

FMD - WCE, SYD (for the length of time) and WB for 2016 look like outliers eh...

anyone who's  got an account - flick it through to sirswampthing to get some p-values organised on that data. 

Edited May 23, 2019 by Engorged Onion

[daisycutter 29,604]

don't worry guys the afl are fixing up all the umpiring problems by introducing a 4th umpire incorporating an interchange bench so budha hocking's brother can school them on the bench of the afl's rule interpretation of the day ?

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

I see the umpire at the centre of the howler call on Smith last week has been awarded with Friday night's blockbuster Swans v Pies. Good job champ.

[sue 9,097]

13 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I see the umpire at the centre of the howler call on Smith last week has been awarded with Friday night's blockbuster Swans v Pies. Good job champ.

Reward?  The AFL sure knows how to fuel conspiracy theories.   On the other hand....

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

5 minutes ago, sue said:

Reward?  The AFL sure knows how to fuel conspiracy theories.   On the other hand....

You couldn't make this stuff up Sue.

Surely you give your best, most in form umpires the Friday night primetime game? So the AFL must've been happy with his efforts.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

You never know, maybe West Coast told the AFL that he's blacklisted from their games from now on.

[loges 6,767]

Thanks to the fact we haven't had Nichols yet. I thought he was meant to retire after last year.

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

7 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I see the umpire at the centre of the howler call on Smith last week has been awarded with Friday night's blockbuster Swans v Pies. Good job champ.

Gets the result the AFL desire....

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

55 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Gets the result the AFL desire....

Exactly where I was going DS56

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

16 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Exactly where I was going DS56

...just as interesting, there is nothing that the paying public can do about it!

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

...just as interesting, there is nothing that the paying public can do about it!

Most of the paying public are blissfully unaware of these things, and the media won't highlight them because their accreditation will be at risk.

[monoccular 17,413]

On 5/18/2019 at 6:47 PM, Jaded said:

The standard of umpiring this year has been pathetic. Not just in our games, but in every game I watch. Which is why I barely watch any games other than our own. 

Just watched the first half of $$ v Colonwood. 

Magpies getting an absolute ride since the start. Deliberate OOB paid to them in at best a 50/50, more like 20/80, yet straight after deep in $$ stack a blatant 90/10 against C nor paid. Holding the ball and incorrect disposals not paid. Horrible  to watch.  

Incompetence would be my charitable spin on it .... other interpretations   could be considered libellous. 

[rjay 24,888]

5 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Just watched the first half of $$ v Colonwood. 

Magpies getting an absolute ride since the start. Deliberate OOB paid to them in at best a 50/50, more like 20/80, yet straight after deep in $$ stack a blatant 90/10 against C nor paid. Holding the ball and incorrect disposals not paid. Horrible  to watch.  

Incompetence would be my charitable spin on it .... other interpretations   could be considered libellous. 

It's seriously dreadful umpiring tonight 'mono'...each umpire has his own interpretation.

The only thing they have in common is free kick Collingwood.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

Not sure what you expected. The AFL got the man of the moment in the Friday night spotlight and threw in Nicholls 'The Fixer' to boot. Something is very rotten in the game at the moment.

[Deemania since 56 6,609]

11 hours ago, monoccular said:

Just watched the first half of $$ v Colonwood. 

Magpies getting an absolute ride since the start. Deliberate OOB paid to them in at best a 50/50, more like 20/80, yet straight after deep in $$ stack a blatant 90/10 against C nor paid. Holding the ball and incorrect disposals not paid. Horrible  to watch.  

Incompetence would be my charitable spin on it .... other interpretations   could be considered libellous. 

That is the problem with the umpiring system - it can only be put down to incompetence by the loyal footballing aficionado for self--protection, so powerful is the will of those amassing the mighty dollar as a right above all others. 

[dpositive 1,663]

On 5/19/2019 at 12:47 PM, willmoy said:

They wont come in unless we pay them....

Don't think the AFL would allow that but they certainly could recognise the concern and pay them.

This would achieve a move towards greater payment for umpires and some of the proposals which have merit to recognise their professional status.

Also free kicks in congested packs for round the neck and in the back may reduce that ugly rugby pack style and open up the game if they were paid regularly. This is not necessarily to advantage Melbourne but would improve the spectacle.

While aware that duckers and divers could seek to take advantage technique would quickly be adjusted by coaches and players to overcome that situation. Reward good correct tackling but protect the head and the player in front.

oh and what about that obvious free kick to Oman when he was kneed in the back and no mark taken? There were a number of similar incidents not paid. It's in the back. Soft single handed push offs often just to get balance which did not affect the mark spilling were paid. Sometimes it depends on the positioning of the umpires more than anything else.

[dpositive 1,663]

On 5/21/2019 at 5:40 PM, Macca said:

It seems that as much as I am diametrically opposed to most on this thread I am at least putting up a possible fix willmoy

Most others are just annoyed at the umpires and want it fixed ... full time umpires being the main answer

But that would never be enough as the sport is extremely difficult to umpire right now and it is harder to umpire than it ever was

Here are some of the suggestions that I have put forward previously ... all designed to improve the sport and make it easier to umpire

- 15  a side

- Either no interchange or 10 rotations per team for the entire match

- More defined rules such as incorrect disposal being clamped down on and 'Around the neck' being paid for crude tackles only.  Any ducking to be penalised retrospectively.

- keep '666' in to accompany the above

- Full time umpires

- Kicking backwards to be outlawed (must kick over the mark) and a mark only paid if the ball travels at least 20 metres

There's almost certainly more that can be done to make the game easier to umpire but that'll do for now.

But there lies another problem ... most don't have a problem with how the game is currently designed or played ... many want the game to be left alone. 'Let the Game Evolve' is the catch-cry.

My rebuttal is that unless we make the game easier to umpire,  the problem with umpiring remains.  And right now,  I am not apportioning blame on the umpires.  That's the back-end of a much bigger problem.

Liked this post but don't agree with 15 a side and question how interchange suggestion would affect.

incorrect disposal and kicking backwards would be a start to other suggestions also being picked up.

 

Good discussions.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,194]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10178925

Some things never change

1) Melbourne loses to the easybeats and wins the games you least expect

2) Umpires hate Melbourne

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On 5/24/2019 at 4:43 PM, loges said:

Thanks to the fact we haven't had Nichols yet. I thought he was meant to retire after last year.

Good riddance to him.

Max says good luck baldy.

[GM11 776]

Slightly off topic. See in the HS today a Richmond cheersquad member banned for calling an umpire a green maggot.

Getting really precious now.

[Diamond_Jim 12,551]

2 hours ago, GM11 said:

Slightly off topic. See in the HS today a Richmond cheersquad member banned for calling an umpire a green maggot.

Getting really precious now.

amazing over reaction

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-afl-bans-richmond-cheer-squad-member-for-green-maggot-umpire-slur/news-story/b22e4161225bbdf77b9f007892039030

“The football field is the umpire’s place of work and it is seen that any abuse directed towards them or any on-field official is deemed as workplace bullying and will not be tolerated,’’ the memo said.

The ban comes after the AFL sent Carlton a “please explain” afters is cheer squad called an umpire a “w***er”.

[loges 6,767]

2 hours ago, GM11 said:

Slightly off topic. See in the HS today a Richmond cheersquad member banned for calling an umpire a green maggot.

Getting really precious now.

You've got to be censored kidding