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It was an odd article. Would the Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast and Richmond senior players held such doubts and fears going into 2019? 

What a pathetic, poxy mindset to think “there were no guarantees of finals again” as Gawn expressed in that piece. 

Can’t imagine Pendles, Danger, Cotchin or Hurn ever even entertaining such feelings.

It’s the fragile club culture that allows for self-doubt like that. 

Edited by Matsuo Basho

 
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13 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

It was an odd article. Do you think the Geelong, Collingwood, West Coast and Richmond senior players held such doubts and fears going into 2019? 

It was a loser’s mindset to think “there are no guarantees of finals again” as Gawn expressed in that piece. 

It’s the fragile club culture that allows for self-doubt like that. 

No successful club takes finals for granted

34 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Post what?

the article

2 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

No successful club takes finals for granted

It’s not about that. It’s about confidence. Not a moment of self-doubt or disbelief. 

Gawn’s words belie a player and a club that still don’t understand the mindset it takes to be a winner. 

A real winner. Not a one season wonder.


Interesting article written by Max

But my only concern is that he had to say it 2 weeks after the club had a “sit down tell all truth” session to reset the mind

i know people inside the club care, but how much do they care? not enough i say.

We cannot waste this year, we cannot write it off, we need to fight against the odds, again and again. 

Last September told us we are not up to it, 7 months later we are still questioning that. 

Back to the Bare Bones Coach, work from the bottom up this week

fight for your job, if you really want it. 

Note: I ripped this from Facebook so not sure of copyright issues.

 

"Melbourne star Max Gawn lifts the lid on the Dees’ struggles and what has to change

Max Gawn, Herald Sun
April 27, 2019

The truth is, we knew there were no guarantees.
We knew that just because we made a preliminary final last year didn’t mean we were going to cruise through this season.
We knew that we couldn’t automatically pick up where we left off.
We knew that every year that teams improve.

But what we didn’t know was that we would be 1-5. This isn’t the start anyone wants.
Losing hurts. It hurts even after you’ve won 21 in a row.
I  was drafted in 2009 in perhaps the most unsuccessful era in Demons  history. Yet somewhere, somehow, I fell in love with the red and blue.
I  am an avid Demon supporter. I hurt when you hurt, I celebrate when you  celebrate and I will listen to your feedback when things aren’t on  track.

Edited by Grapeviney
Please don't paste full articles - copyright issues

Again.. its all talk.. its all been talk the last couple years.. Max is great, but he talks a lot.. he tells us the prelim final loss is going to burn in the players.. we come out lose r1..we are 1-5 now he says judge us on how they respond.

Why in the hell should we believe and trust words. its rather pathetic.

 

I didn't mind the article...

From this I can take away that defence is the biggest issue the club feels that needs to be fixed asap. 

I think we saw that on Wednesday night, there is a bigger focus on defence. There are a lot of other issues as well. Like spped and disposal efficiency which I will watch with interest over the next 6 games to see how it improves.

We are 1 - 5. I am hoping for 3 and 3 over the next 6. Lets see what happens


People are weird, hey?

Quote: "Only actions can get us out of the fix we are in"

Response: "Shows how mentally weak you are"

3 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

People are weird, hey?

Quote: "Only actions can get us out of the fix we are in"

Response: "Shows how mentally weak you are"

Prelim to spoon chance in 7 games. 

That’ll do for a definition of mental fragility for me. What’s yours?

48 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

What a pathetic, poxy mindset to think “there were no guarantees of finals again” as Gawn expressed in that piece.

You’d prefer him to say they thought finals were guaranteed? Personally I’d hate it if the players thought they were. 

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Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

You’d prefer him to say they thought finals were guaranteed? 

Prefer him not to mention or even think about guarantees or non-guarantees. 

Winners don’t talk like that. Second guessers do.


8 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Prelim to spoon chance in 7 games. 

That’ll do for a definition of mental fragility for me. What’s yours?

Matsuo, as is screechingly obvious, I was responding to the way people were reacting to the article itself.

And for what it is worth, your earlier claims about 'Pendles, Danger etc would not have throughts about finals not being guaranteed' are just ridiculous, even a perfect inversion of reality.

I swear, you're coming across as one of those people who are addicted to "Be a Winner" seminars and "Rich Dad Poor Dad" style self-help books. So much anger stirred up in you against what is just basic, normal, and practical humility.

He’s on a hiding to nothing, really. Damned if you do or don’t. I understand the want to reach out to supporters and let them know he’s hurting as well. Fair play to him.

Fixing the defence is a priority but the inability to score is almost as alarming. Our forwardline is complete puss atm. Certainly the delivery isn’t helping but right now nothing is functioning. We can’t buy a tackle in our attacking 50. We can’t buy a goal from a forward stoppage. On the occasions when we do have forward targets they aren’t working together. We seemingly have no-one that can take a contested mark. As others have noted, the absence of Hannan may be under appreciated. And of course there’s the purple elephant in the room. Or rather in the west. Somehow we need to craft something together that provides a better output than 2 goals in three quarters.

We made some small inroads against Richmond. Let’s see if any more can be made against the Hawks. There is still much that can be salvaged from this season.

13 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Matsuo, as is screechingly obvious, I was responding to the way people were reacting to the article itself.

And for what it is worth, your earlier claims about 'Pendles, Danger etc would not have throughts about finals not being guaranteed' are just ridiculous, even a perfect inversion of reality.

I swear, you're coming across as one of those people who are addicted to "Be a Winner" seminars and "Rich Dad Poor Dad" style self-help books. So much anger stirred up in you against what is just basic, normal, and practical humility.

No anger. Just exasperation and frustration at the losers mentality which permeates the club, both on field and off it. 

Apathy is the problem, not anger. And your comment reeks of it.

Just more talk and unfortunately we’re are number 1 in the league when it comes to that. 


Max is damned if he says something, anything, and damned if he's silent. 

Haters gonna hate.

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Max is damned if he says something, anything, and damned if he's silent. 

Haters gonna hate.

True. Doesn't change the fact it's an embarrassing article, written only to appease mummy and daddy supporters who want people to "stop being so negative!". 

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Note: I ripped this from Facebook so not sure of copyright issues.

 

"Melbourne star Max Gawn lifts the lid on the Dees’ struggles and what has to change

Max Gawn, Herald Sun
April 27, 2019

The truth is, we knew there were no guarantees.
We knew that just because we made a preliminary final last year didn’t mean we were going to cruise through this season.
We knew that we couldn’t automatically pick up where we left off.
We knew that every year that teams improve.

But what we didn’t know was that we would be 1-5. This isn’t the start anyone wants.
Losing hurts. It hurts even after you’ve won 21 in a row.
I  was drafted in 2009 in perhaps the most unsuccessful era in Demons  history. Yet somewhere, somehow, I fell in love with the red and blue.
I  am an avid Demon supporter. I hurt when you hurt, I celebrate when you  celebrate and I will listen to your feedback when things aren’t on  track.

Absolute FUGAZZI!

 

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