POSTGAME: Rd 03 vs Essendon

[Deemania since 56 6,267]

10 hours ago, bing181 said:

Improvements in areas that needed improvement - back to scoring decent amounts again, 18 goals.

But ... back line. Just not happening at the moment. Petty for Frost?

Only getting one game out of the first five for Steven May isn't ideal either.

Frost has had to join the throng backing and supporting the errors of OMac, his tendency to run away from and often, behind his opponent. That, to my eye, totals: Jetta, Hibberd and now Frost playing two opponents in one-on-ones, and up to six opponents in the congestion of an active backline. Frost was terrible, as a result. Frosty is a HB Flanker, has been asked to play CHB and usually does reasonably well (not against Essendrug). The noose around the MFC tied and held by TMac that he ain't going to play unless OMac is also in the side should be tested and ended. TMac is a fullback but is waning as forward, in general. Both could go elsewhere to another club without any loss.

Whatever the case of brotherly interest over team interest, OMac has to go. He is a chicken and a shirker in our footy club; I have never seen him do otherwise, week in, week out across the last few years. OMac is the hole in the dam wall; his leakage is catastrophic for the team and for the rest of the backline. He actually runs away from the contest and never provides in-close support to playmakers. Petty, Keilty, the return of Lever, the just backline roles of Nev and Hibberd combined with May and Salem are the future, starting with such a line-up next week using Frosty as the CHB until the tastier items return from injury. 

[beelzebub 22,417]

53 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Brayshaw suggesting that some players are not buying in is a direct swipe at which individuals? Sounds like we need to only play those players who are buying in, even if they are youth.

What if what they're asked to buy is plainly rubbish ? 

So you've arrived at Jonestown....and after a while you realise things are no quite as the were purported ? 

Someone starts handing out the Koolaid ..

I know..an overly dramatic allegory. My point is...maybe some players have more intuitive footy sense than the coaches ?

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

I admire the care that most of you all show, I admire more the hope that some of you still have.

However, the harsh reality all Melbourne supporters need to face into is that this season will be a failure. Even if we manage to beat a few top 8 sides and show some signs, the season is now over and the next 19 games are irrelevant.

Absolute downside to overperforming in one season.

[Deesprate 1,224]

3 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

I admire the care that most of you all show, I admire more the hope that some of you still have.

However, the harsh reality all Melbourne supporters need to face into is that this season will be a failure. Even if we manage to beat a few top 8 sides and show some signs, the season is now over and the next 19 games are irrelevant.

Absolute downside to overperforming in one season.

Yeah but as Brayshaw said after the game. There not to much concern internally. He got to be taking the xxss 

[Demonised 1,220]

Looks like we're going to have to win the flag from eighth spot on the ladder.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Demonised

[sisso 2,413]

I never bought into the pre season hype but  also never dreamed we’d be this diabolical either! Average to poor side who somehow played massively above themselves last year, that’s how it looks at the moment.

[Buzzy 953]

1 hour ago, gOLLy said:

Never EVER trade a A grade forward

And not pick up May to address CLEARLY the worst part of our team? 

Are you Oscar McDonald?

 

[beelzebub 22,417]

6 minutes ago, Demonised said:

Looks like we're going to have to win the flag from eighth.

lofty ambitions.....finishing 8th that is

[3Dee 1,153]

We traded away our first round pick this year didn't we?

[Dr.D 1,771]

Nah we have our first round pick this year

[beelzebub 22,417]

Season 2019

 

Edited April 5, 2019 by beelzebub

[loges 6,271]

48 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

What if what they're asked to buy is plainly rubbish ? 

So you've arrived at Jonestown....and after a while you realise things are no quite as the were purported ? 

Someone starts handing out the Koolaid ..

I know..an overly dramatic allegory. My point is...maybe some players have more intuitive footy sense than the coaches ?

Are you advocating the tail wagging the dog because it sounds like it ?

[OzJackyl 1]

The question is did we make an error in giving Goody a contract extension? Seems to me he lacks Plans B, C, and Đ. He's been out coached three weeks in a row now.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,674]

9 hours ago, Ben E said:

Melksham non-free kick near end of first half the turning point in this game. Absolutely disgusted and utterly confused by the inconsistent application of rules around prohibitive contact in marking contests, and holding the ball / incorrect disposal. It’s almost making the game unwatchable for me - and, of course, being 0-3 and getting home with my kids after midnight because of this city’s crap public transport system doesn’t help matters.

We can blame the umpires but they were pretty terrible all night for both teams.

The turning point for me was Hunt and in particular Harmes missing sitters in the 3rd quarter. Harmes misses and they take it down and kick a goal instead of 2 goals the margin is 4 goals.

[No10 323]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

That Brayshaw interview was weird, there was a massive sense of complacency and it worried me too.

He was so relaxed, it was strange and concerning.

Of course the players carry the message from the coach post game, so I’ve no doubt he was set into that mode by Goody.

Perhaps he’s a genius coach, keeping them believers even at 0-3.

The failures are bizarre, players like Frost and ANB aren’t as bad as that.

It all looks so inexperienced. Even the experience (like Jones) seemed to run to positions to escape responsibility, he guarded grass more than anybody.

Goody traded Watts and Hogan, he doesn’t play an experienced forward like Garlett. He believes full team buy-in to his game plan will win over individually gifted players. I’m going to say Goody is a genius coach as he’s doing everything different to what I would’ve thought.

He still has Brayshaw believing, so maybe that’s a good thing?

[hardtack 10,161]

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

The noose around the MFC tied and held by TMac that he ain't going to play unless OMac is also in the side should be tested and ended. TMac is a fullback but is waning as forward, in general. Both could go elsewhere to another club without any loss.

Unless you have some sort of irrefutable evidence, I’d suggest that this belongs in the Demonland Fact Check thread.

[loges 6,271]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We can blame the umpires but they were pretty terrible all night for both teams.

The turning point for me was Hunt and in particular Harmes missing sitters in the 3rd quarter. Harmes misses and they take it down and kick a goal instead of 2 goals the margin is 4 goals.

Regarding the umpires you need to look no further than the last quarter where Tipungwuti tries to break 2 tackles within a minute  by ducking his head, yet doesn't get penalised for either.

[No10 323]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

What if what they're asked to buy is plainly rubbish ? 

So you've arrived at Jonestown....and after a while you realise things are no quite as the were purported ? 

Someone starts handing out the Koolaid ..

I know..an overly dramatic allegory. My point is...maybe some players have more intuitive footy sense than the coaches ?

Who are these players with “intuitive footy sense” on the MFC list??

The failures are with the players who lack any sense at all, it seems.

[beelzebub 22,417]

16 minutes ago, loges said:

Are you advocating the tail wagging the dog because it sounds like it ?

No.not at all. What I'm saying is the current plan is shizen. Maybe some have twigged. Hell..17 other teams have.

[No10 323]

1 hour ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

I admire the care that most of you all show, I admire more the hope that some of you still have.

However, the harsh reality all Melbourne supporters need to face into is that this season will be a failure. Even if we manage to beat a few top 8 sides and show some signs, the season is now over and the next 19 games are irrelevant.

Absolute downside to overperforming in one season.

There really isn’t an excuse to be this poor.

The list on paper has incredible young talent that should see significant improvement year on year. Chemistry solidifying. Confidence building.

There are similarities to last season where we were scored on too easily, this year there’s a lack of scoring power in the fwd half now too.

I’m a believer that this can turn around. But I confess to having absolutely no idea why the team as a whole is performing so badly. I can’t pin this on specific players.

[Demonsone 1,684]

1 hour ago, Dockett 32 said:

If you overpay for something that doesn’t work, it’s hard to consider it a wise decision, particularly when what you purchase has an injury predisposition cloud.

The opportunity cost on this transaction is looking pretty aweful right now.

 

 

Hawks have rolled the dice with Scully & Omera...only difference they gave late picks.....Whats concerning is Lever is bad luck buy May coming into a new club & presenting himself in poor shape says a lot about him, not sure how recruiters can miss that

[Brownie 5,466]

I swear we couldcopy and past posts from this time last year.

Massive lapses where teams kick 5 to 7 goals against us in a row.

Ball getting over the back of the press.

We seemed to have learnt nothing

[Demonsone 1,684]

14 minutes ago, No10 said:

There really isn’t an excuse to be this poor.

The list on paper has incredible young talent that should see significant improvement year on year. Chemistry solidifying. Confidence building.

There are similarities to last season where we were scored on too easily, this year there’s a lack of scoring power in the fwd half now too.

I’m a believer that this can turn around. But I confess to having absolutely no idea why the team as a whole is performing so badly. I can’t pin this on specific players.

Simple Roos implemented defending & working both ways...Goodwin is attack & down hill skiers

[Cheap Seats 3,303]

I don't actually blame the players for this disaster it's very much a combination of things.

For a start thank you Gil you [censored] for continually changing how the game is played. It is now a soft outside game.

In saying that we as a club are terrible at it. And our structures and execution are all terrible.

I have no doubt in saying we are now the worst club in the league because our ability to execute in open play is non existent.

After you all get over the fact the we are terrible at this new game style the real question is - is it time to rebuild??

There are some very senior players at the moment who are underperforming either due to possible injury or bad form. They are all slow and struggle to impact the game in this new format.

Tough time for Goody and co. Leaking 20 goals to a basket case side is not good

[jnrmac 19,364]

How's that defence working for you @binman?

30 shots at goal from 54 entries for 20 goals.  Your poster child OMac going to be AA this year?

they can't hide him any more.