Two issues here which Crud Cornes conveniently makes one.

1) legality/illegality if blocking

2) p-weak flying of the flag

He's a bozo . Jonas etc were in the wrong

However...Gawn had no mates... disgusting.

hope we aren't going to start a new thread every time cornes stirs the pot

the only reason he has a footy job is he's such a big stirrer

ch9 should sign him up for mafs

This guy is a bilge  pumper.  Likes to be Mr Headline.

He is right that we have to take responsibility for how we played it, but he is wrong that asking for guidance on where the ‘line’ is should be considered whinging.

If what Port did is OK, then I would give Paddy Ryder a total workover next time we meet.  Mr May is just the man for the job.  

Gawn had no mates, and this really underscores I think the biggest issue of the whole day.  There seemed to be no cohesion in the group, they did not play for each other or do team first actions.  We got what we deserved for doing so.

Kane Corn (holer) will find something else to dump on next week, and his Port Power affiliations are too strong to discount in his coverage.  

He is right...

ho hum. if the roles were reversed he'd be having a go too

Spot on @ProDee

For all the whinging about how fighting fire with fire being undisciplined on here, it usually allows the game to be played on its merits by making the opposition think twice before pulling any dodgy shenanigans (see Lewis' hit on Cripps in 2017)

That scene at half time of Robbie Gray sticking it up Gawny reminded me of that time when Daniel Merrett plastered Pedo's nose over his face against the Lions in 2014. Not in the act per se but it was similar in that no one went in to fly the flag for the aggrieved.

Does anyone think that this won't be used against us again? Remember how long it took to get rid of the 'bruise free' reputation and how clubs would burn us off in the first 20 minutes by applying physical pressure?

I'm hoping May makes a difference in this front (and Lewis when he gets back). I'm hoping the reason Viney didn't jump in was because he was lame and not for other reasons.

 

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Agree 100%

How on earth does a team supposedly overflowing with tough, hard at it types, allow their main weapon to be knocked around for an entire game, with not a single retaliatory action in his defence?

Maybe our so-called team of young bulls are still weaners?

I'll give the boys the benefit of the doubt on this one and give them the chance to respond against Geelong before labeling them soft, which they absolutely were on all fronts in round 1. 

Hawkins or Danger in a bodybaq is my pass mark ? 

For whatever reason our team really couldn't be ar$ed playing last weekend...it all got a bit hard. Let's hope its the exception not the norm!

Once upon a time when a team was losing or being monstered some of the more antsy players would start a fight to attempt to stop opposition momentum. We tend to cower and wimp out. What happened in round one was unacceptably similar to when we played the Swans in round 15, 2017. Gawn was physically targeted severely that day also and we lost bad. We were riding high before that game after a string of great wins. It was very disappointing to see this happen again as well as the last quarter capitulation. Jones and Viney let the side down bad. Since beating Hawthorn in the First Semi we have been woeful. All this bathwater talk has some merit IMO.

The  only positive I see is now we have the opportunity to weed out this pathetic mindset early unlike late as in the past two seasons.

Edited March 28, 20196 yr by america de cali

I'm loving all this media.  More of this sort of stuff the better.

7 hours ago, The Stigga said:

Yeah...think about it!

 

I have and he is absolutely correct. We are still a LOOOONG way of!

1 hour ago, sisso said:

For whatever reason our team really couldn't be ar$ed playing last weekend...it all got a bit hard. Let's hope its the exception not the norm!

Ahem, we have lost our last 4 games!!

8 hours ago, Demonland said:

? | https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/03/27/gawn-was-beaten-fairly-the-whinging-is-embarrassing

"Someone should tell Goodwin that Ryder is 12 centimetres shorter than Gawn and is 14-15 kilograms lighter. Oh, and there’s the small fact that he was playing with a fractured cheekbone.

Obviously Gawn and Melbourne couldn’t handle a few tiny midfielders in Karl Amon, Steven Motlop and 18-year-old first-year player Connor Rozee bumping him off the ball.

Port captain Tom Jonas also had his way with Gawn dropping him off the ball. Michael Christian, the AFL’s Match Review Officer, dealt with Jonas accordingly and fined him $2,000 for the incident.

Jonas has no regrets and said he would do it again.

Rather than whinging to the AFL on the back of a shock loss, Melbourne, Gawn and Goodwin should take a leaf out of Port’s book and step up.

There was nothing illegal about these tactics and it’s what has made our game great for so long.

The Demons need to take responsibility for their own performance or they could be waiting another 55 years to taste premiership success."

Haha, what a stupid little gronk. Don't contradict yourself in the same few sentences. Was it legal or was Jonas fined? If it were within the rules, there would be no fine. 

That said, what a whack. I hope that sparks us, because we were pitiful last week.

OK, prepared to cop rubbish from these biased ex-footballers who land cushy jobs in the media to spout their uninteresting opinions, BUT, when he utters a sentence like, "There was nothing illegal about these tactics and IT'S WHAT HAS MADE OUR GAME GREAT FOR SO LONG", excuse me while I throw up. If that what makes our game great then we should all pack up our bags now and go and live in a cave.

5 hours ago, ProDee said:

Couldn't agree with Cornes more.

Shut your pie-hole Melbourne and let your actions do the talking.

It's certainly got the spoilt brat, entitled football club about it.

When Gawn was banging on during pre season about only being happy going into an off-season after winning the flag, I was thinking STFU and just concentrate on training and preparing for Round 1.

Edited March 28, 20196 yr by A F

51 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Ahem, we have lost our last 4 games!!

One finals appearence in 11 years enough maybe...

6 hours ago, faultydet said:

Our blokes didnt give a whimper. Nothing at all wrong with what Cornes said.

You won't win a pressure final by betting knocked around by an 18yr old kid.

I look at the results of other high finishers from last year, and hope our pitiful performance was something to do with where we are in our training program, due to aiming at being at our peak for finals.

agree we were soft  STICK UP FOR YOUR MATES  (legally of course)

https://www.fiveaa.com.au/shows/rowey-bicks/Port-Adelaide-To-Send-The-AFL-A-Please-Explain-About-Ryder-Treatment

 

Hypocrite.

We know what the rules are. 'Seeking clarification' is short-hand for 'Hey AFL, can you keep an eye on this please'. Thus, it really is a form of whinging. And it's smart. Clarkson and the Scotts do it all the time and it works. Running a football club is a multi-million dollar business and an old-school response isn't enough. I hate the fact that Angus went and befriended that Razor [censored], but I'll begrudge it, because it's proven to have been super-important for the club.

Forget cornes, what about Brad Scott. After his player who has a reputation of cheap shots and gut punches got fined and not lucky to get a suspension, he said that players went down like mack trucks. Surely he wasn't having a go at the freo player that cunnington hit. 

Cornes is a giant D- bag but he isn’t wrong. 

Too much talking and too many excuses. We played like crap and we played soft footy. 

24 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Forget cornes, what about Brad Scott. After his player who has a reputation of cheap shots and gut punches got fined and not lucky to get a suspension, he said that players went down like mack trucks. Surely he wasn't having a go at the freo player that cunnington hit. 

Brad Scott is a different cattle of fish. Beating his team in finals was one of the sweeter moments of life thus far. 

I hate the dirty [censored] and I hope Gawn gets a free kick every time a Geelong player goes near him, just so I can see Scott explode in the box. 

Classic SEN clickbait. Website advertising revenue must be keeping the whole operation afloat.

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Cornes is a giant D- bag but he isn’t wrong. 

Too much talking and too many excuses. We played like crap and we played soft footy. 

Only half right

Port crossed line several times.

The AFL..ask...that's fine

The limp effort of Dee players and any excuses by club...uh uh... very embarrassing

13 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

Cornes is more biased towards his Former club then any other media personality so take this with a grain of salt

He Is drunken, but he is also spot on at the same time.

We at Melbournefc have made an art form of whinging...  when physical steaks are dished out.  This would NEVER have happened, under norm smiths demons.  No whinging, just get out there and do your own hard footy.

I don't think the Vineys would be doing any whinging out aloud.

The time we should have kicked up sand, was with May...  but we seemed to accept the head high hit as truth...  rubbish decision,  unless it was preordained.

Melbourne not contesting the head contact at the appeal, was as weak as pizz. 

May-b they wanted May, to learn an early lesson, in March.

Edited March 28, 20196 yr by DV8