Dom Tyson - desperately needed yesterday

18 hours ago, TGR said:

Melbourne need Frost and Hunt more than you know.

We are still slow and one-paced.  6/6/6 might make our plight worse.

 

Brayshaw - Our best today

 

Spago - Casey Casey Casey

Rucks - 5 metres behind (at boundary throw ins)

Kick ins - Far too safe

Uncontested possessions - We got obliterated

Neal- Bullen - Tackled O K

Jack Watts - Good on him 

Jack Viney - Limped off last week at Casey.  Was limping today.  Why the hell was he picked.  Either the medical staff got it wrong or Viney is wagging the dog.

 

Did the West Coast game expose us?  I read Goodwin saw it as our off-day and never reviewed it.  Scratched my head about this all summer.  Fox Footy reckoned Lycett would have been hauled into Match Committe to discuss last years’s PF.

 

 

Get ready for the opposition to really expose or one-paced brigade.  They will stretch us wide, and accumulate uncontested possession.

 

You're unique. The only person on Demonland who didn't think Salem was our best.

9 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You're unique. The only person on Demonland who didn't think Salem was our best.

One one hand I am happy to walk against the herd when it comes to most MFC supporters.

On the flip side, I sought a sun-tan next to the cheer squad yesterday, and I admit it was pretty difficult to see what was going on at the city end; while I was squinting, and considering either dying of thirst or digging deep to pay $10 for a cider.  I will watch the game again and get back to you.

Petracca- Light and Easy

(Needs to be on it.)

1 hour ago, Olgreybeard49 said:

Also - showed some mongrel.

Another 3 words neither uttered nor ushered in his time at MFC.

 

All these MFC supporters coming out with the dumb typical cheap shot "I didn't see that at Melbourne' or words to that effect.

 

What % of games did we try him at half-back?  I would say nil if any.  If he turns out to be an AA half-back, then Roos and Goodwin have a bit to answer.  Sheedy would never have died wondering.  He is an elite kick.  You'd want him with ball in hand coming out of D50.  Amazing that this was never trained and tried.

 

 

Not many stuck fat with Jack Watts.  MFC supporters are hopeless sticking fat against what they see in the last game or 2, or what the footy world regurgitate.

 

I hope Watts sticks it up his knockers that far that his fist is seen in their mouths.  Pick 28?  Bargain.  And we sold the farm in the super-draft for a like with ACL history.  Urine.  Bed.  Rest.

 

 

6 minutes ago, TGR said:

All these MFC supporters coming out with the dumb typical cheap shot "I didn't see that at Melbourne' or words to that effect.

 

What % of games did we try him at half-back?  I would say nil if any.  If he turns out to be an AA half-back, then Roos and Goodwin have a bit to answer.  Sheedy would never have died wondering.  He is an elite kick.  You'd want him with ball in hand coming out of D50.  Amazing that this was never trained and tried.

 

 

Not many stuck fat with Jack Watts.  MFC supporters are hopeless sticking fat against what they see in the last game or 2, or what the footy world regurgitate.

 

I hope Watts sticks it up his knockers that far that his fist is seen in their mouths.  Pick 28?  Bargain.  And we sold the farm in the super-draft for a like with ACL history.  Urine.  Bed.  Rest.

 

 

Interesting turn of phrase under the circumstances.

24 minutes ago, TGR said:

All these MFC supporters coming out with the dumb typical cheap shot "I didn't see that at Melbourne' or words to that effect.

 

What % of games did we try him at half-back?  I would say nil if any.  If he turns out to be an AA half-back, then Roos and Goodwin have a bit to answer.  Sheedy would never have died wondering.  He is an elite kick.  You'd want him with ball in hand coming out of D50.  Amazing that this was never trained and tried.

 

 

 

I don't remember what year or years it was but Jack was  played down back with us with some success - particularly the first couple of games he played there. I don't believe Roos or Goodwin have anything to answer for with regards Jack.

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

Dom Tyson - desperately needed yesterday

So was Dean Kent, imo.

He'd have given more pace and pressure up forward yesterday

Gary Pert - Poor track record

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

So was Dean Kent, imo.

He'd have given more pace and pressure up forward yesterday

No one wanted Dean Kent to go. He left to get more midfield time.

22 hours ago, Tom Dyson said:

J. Watts: reliable and effective 

(three words that were never ushered in his time at MFC) 

I was at the game after 12 hours of travelling ... Watts was reliable and effective for Port - Watts' foot skills we missed by the Dees and felt by the Dees under pressure - Watts did some great things in the heat of the backline (theirs) during in-comings (ours) and losses of possession (ours) - in fact, Watts just played his game and did it very well - marked well, spoiled well, ran to position well, cleared well, absorbed the efforts of the Weed and TMac including the Dees' smalls, teamed-up with his new teammates yet did nothing exceptional, nothing that we had not seen for years - I think that underneath, we all knew he'd be a loss. 

52 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Gary Pert - Poor track record

Dear Mr President,

If ever the Dees missed three regular players, it was yesterday. This does not auger well for your recent appointment  It displays a weakness in critical analysis leaving your most loyal customers dissatisfied and alienated.

Grunge-runner Watts was a skillset we valued; Steam Train Kent was put on this earth to kick 'em high and low, and kick a few heads when the heat was on - we undervalued that; Ball Winner Tyson had often resurrected our midfield claims and would have interrupted the flow that Port generated on the 'G.

Another black mark on the wall, another black year beckons. 

Thank you, Mr President.

Demons - cannot be trusted

7 hours ago, DV8 said:

I believe our preseason is based on going through a long season into September.

In other words our older players should be going into the start of season just a tad underdone, and find match fitness as they build into the season, otherwise they could be burnt out in Spring.

Our younger players should be fitter than Jones and Co, but many had operations to work through.   So they will also be finding match fitness during the season.

This in turn puts pressure on our forwards and our defenders.

We need gut runners atmo, and the loss of JKH',  imo is hurting, at the moment.

 

The only others I can see realistically, to help with spread and some speed,  are Jordan and Lockhart.

 

Im expecting a big response next week.

29 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

Im expecting a big response next week.

They're just not fit enough to turn this around in a week. Too many stars and still recovering match fitness after surgeries. Or if not recovering then just plain injured eg Viney. Please do NOT pick him in that state again!   Too many of the second rung played as if they also had had surgery in the offseason. Weideman played like he did a year ago . Frost and Omac played like they already know they're to be replaced by May and Lever and seemed disspirited.   We're in trouble. I dont think this is turning around in a week or two. 

7 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I was at the game after 12 hours of travelling ... Watts was reliable and effective for Port - Watts' foot skills we missed by the Dees and felt by the Dees under pressure - Watts did some great things in the heat of the backline (theirs) during in-comings (ours) and losses of possession (ours) - in fact, Watts just played his game and did it very well - marked well, spoiled well, ran to position well, cleared well, absorbed the efforts of the Weed and TMac including the Dees' smalls, teamed-up with his new teammates yet did nothing exceptional, nothing that we had not seen for years - I think that underneath, we all knew he'd be a loss. 

Hell . . . not me!

6 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Dear Mr President,

If ever the Dees missed three regular players, it was yesterday. This does not auger well for your recent appointment  It displays a weakness in critical analysis leaving your most loyal customers dissatisfied and alienated.

Grunge-runner Watts was a skillset we valued; Steam Train Kent was put on this earth to kick 'em high and low, and kick a few heads when the heat was on - we undervalued that; Ball Winner Tyson had often resurrected our midfield claims and would have interrupted the flow that Port generated on the 'G.

Another black mark on the wall, another black year beckons. 

Thank you, Mr President.

What a load of c&#p.

A gallop (or 2) short

15 hours ago, Chook said:

No one wanted Dean Kent to go. He left to get more midfield time.

Sorry Chook pleas don't  include me or are you saying in the Club!

Kenty was predominantly unfit injured and low possession player who looked spectacular in about 3 occasions during a match.

Yesterday fir Saints a speccy   goal but no other contributions of any substance.

Tackled well once or twice occasionally and got caught on left foot because he can't kick right.

Think he left at right time andgood luck to him at Saints for more money.

19 hours ago, TGR said:

All these MFC supporters coming out with the dumb typical cheap shot "I didn't see that at Melbourne' or words to that effect.

 

What % of games did we try him at half-back?  I would say nil if any.  If he turns out to be an AA half-back, then Roos and Goodwin have a bit to answer.  Sheedy would never have died wondering.  He is an elite kick.  You'd want him with ball in hand coming out of D50.  Amazing that this was never trained and tried.

 

 

Not many stuck fat with Jack Watts.  MFC supporters are hopeless sticking fat against what they see in the last game or 2, or what the footy world regurgitate.

 

I hope Watts sticks it up his knockers that far that his fist is seen in their mouths.  Pick 28?  Bargain.  And we sold the farm in the super-draft for a like with ACL history.  Urine.  Bed.  Rest.

 

 

This is a disgraceful post. Watts was on our list 3-4 years too long and the only reason he lasted so long was because we had so many new coaches that wanted to see him before delisting him from the list.

So watts plays 1 good game of footy and that excuses his previous 150? 

Watts was trialled everywhere for us (back middle and forward) and the only thing that remained constant was his lack of intensity and strength in the contest.  

He played a solid game of footy and that's great. AA? please! He is playing for his spot on the list at Port each week.

Edited March 24, 20196 yr by Dr.D

6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

This is a disgraceful post. Watts was on our list 3-4 years too long and the only reason he lasted so long was because we had so many new coaches that wanted to see him before delisting him from the list.

So watts plays 1 good game of footy and that excuses his previous 150? 

Watts was trialled everywhere for us (back middle and forward) and the only thing that remained constant was his lack of intensity and strength in the contest.  

He played a solid game of footy and that's great. AA? please! He is playing for his spot on the list at Port each week.

Say what you want, but who could argue that Watts couldn’t have fulfilled Lewis’s role as a back with an easy role.

I have said it repeatedly over the past 2 years.

As for a disgraceful post I will are you and raise you a lot of the rubbish that demo land simpletons have directed to him.

Edited March 24, 20196 yr by TGR

Watts played a woeful first quarter and was good in the next three. He was good because we had inadequate forward and midfield pressure. If anything is a barometer as to how we played it is that Jack Watts was able to execute his sublime skills precisely because there wasn't enough pressure placed on him.

43 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Watts played a woeful first quarter and was good in the next three. He was good because we had inadequate forward and midfield pressure. If anything is a barometer as to how we played it is that Jack Watts was able to execute his sublime skills precisely because there wasn't enough pressure placed on him.

What was ‘inadequate’ about the 3 on 1 that he won?  I couldn’t think of more pressure than a 1-on-3?  Hence, your summation is glib.

If you want a definition of ‘woeful’ I refer you to Lewis’ preliminary final performance.

 

21 hours ago, DV8 said:

I believe our preseason is based on going through a long season into September.

In other words our older players should be going into the start of season just a tad underdone, and find match fitness as they build into the season, otherwise they could be burnt out in Spring.

Our younger players should be fitter than Jones and Co, but many had operations to work through.   So they will also be finding match fitness during the season.

This in turn puts pressure on our forwards and our defenders.

We need gut runners atmo, and the loss of JKH',  imo is hurting, at the moment.

 

The only others I can see realistically, to help with spread and some speed,  are Jordan and Lockhart.

 

While an admirable theory, surely it would be best to use the whole 42 squad with some playing kamikaze footy for critical times to allow the finalists to be cherry ripe as the season progresses. Prepare for the finals over the season and work backwards to allow the appropriate rest and recuperation at appropriate times. Surely this is why we have Pruess to support Max. Play them both if needed but one or the other to provide appropriate r&or. It's called tapering and peaking.

using the squad is essential. Don't be worried if Casey finishes last if the players in the side are playing in accordance with their required role in the ones. Develop them to replace someone in the ones but expect to be used only if they are better than that player. Keeps the primary player on their toes as well.

 

On 3/23/2019 at 7:01 PM, Demon Disciple said:

Petracca - Bodybuilder running marathon

Yes, and body builder unable to sprint.

I went to Shepparton and was shocked at CPs condition. He was as overweight as I have seen and looked like a park footballer that had wandered onto the ground by mistake. Unfortunately, this makes him look a lazy footballer as he cannot chase or break away from his opponent. 

Sadly, I think he is only ever going to be a "burst player" but unfortunately even his ability to play in bursts is hampered by his poor physical condition.