Farewell Jesse Hogan

[bobby1554 1,244]

9 minutes ago, ProDee said:

The view that the club should wait one more year for May and get him for free doesn't wash with me.

Firstly, there's no guarantee he'll still want the Dees in a year's time.  Things change.

Secondly, I want to win the flag in 2019.  We're right in the window to win and May improves our chances.

Improve the list.  Improve the balance of the best 22.  And do it now.

Which is exactly the reason the club is doing this. May in, Hogan out makes us a more likely premier, as it gives us strength in backline, added to an already top notch midfield, the best ruckman in the comp, and 2 big key forwards.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

Its now or never with May, IMO i reckon Pick 11 and a player alla (Frost) will be enough for May but If it happens to be pick 5 and add ons so be it.

We all want a Premierships at the end of the day.

Edited October 11, 2018 by Win4theAges

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

Just now, DSP said:

Thet have already on traded a 2019 pick i believe.

Then GTFO. 

Personally I'd like to see us give Jesse a year at CHB. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work and he goes back to WA. And if Tmac goes down we have a ready made forward to take his spot. 

Freo is lowballing us. @#$% them. Let them grow their own players, and if they can't then let them pay overs. Same as they do to other teams.

[faultydet 7,594]

1 minute ago, johndemonic said:

The key to making sense is understanding that you left 'what might be' out of your sentence.

 

Any player from any team, at any time, is subject to that same statement.

We have a hole in the list for a bloke who can defend against the gorilla forwards, and May is without question the best player available who can do this.

The time to strike is NOW, not next year.

[Johnny Karate 559]

21 minutes ago, GCDee said:

How? 

Unrestricted free agent, if they do finish near the bottom the AFL will give them a top 5 compo pick. 

 

Yes. But will he still want to come to us in a years time? We won’t have trade currency advantage over Collingwood. Put it this way: if you were headhunted by another prospective employer and promised you’d be working for them in a month, you agree hand in your notice with your current employer and then all of a sudden they come back and say: “sorry, deals off, we’ll revisit in 12 months ok?” How would you feel about how that organisation was doing business?

[Demons1858 1,760]

3 minutes ago, ManDee said:

OK master trader tell me how if we didn't trade this years first for Lever we could do the deal for May without trading Hogan.

This is getting boring. We would have this years 1st rounder and future selections to work our way into a trading position for him.

[Dirts 429]

13 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

5 and their 1st next year or GTFO.

 

I don't rate May btw, so if that falls over so be it. 

they don't have pick 5 now, unless they get from Bris

[ManDee 7,153]

1 minute ago, Demons1858 said:

This is getting boring. We would have this years 1st rounder and future selections to work our way into a trading position for him.

As I said before this years first pick would have been 16. Show me how it is a FACT that we could do the trade for May without trading Hogan. Feigning boredom suggests it was not a fact but speculation on your behalf. 

[Salems Lot 2,535]

wow, I go away for an hour and come back to 5 more pages; there are some mighty unproductive work centres out there!?

[Johnny Karate 559]

11 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

I remain of the view Hogan is a special talent. The only reason he would be in play is because we asked him to sign for 4 more years and his agent has said no wants to keep options open. He is younger and far more talented than May. We should only be prepared to take an offer that is too good to refuse. 50 goal plus a season players are too hard to come by.  Everyone gets swept up in the trade fiasco where picks are simply speculative,Hogan is not speculative if fit. I hope he stays. 

I’d prefer to keep Hogan if I’m honest. However, reading between the lines, this situation has unfolded because he can’t commit to us. He has asked to explore a trade. Steven May is willing to join our club. Ideally, we keep Hogan, he re-signs and May is guaranteed as a FA in 12 months. But it’s a gamble. If we do nothing Hogan could request a trade when he’s OOC in 2019 and then Steven May has a lot more suitors and trade currency is irrelevant as he is a FA.

Put simply its the difference between being proactive and reactive. Melbourne has been reactive for far too long.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Jesse stays

Fin

[P-man 13,366]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Karate said:

I’d prefer to keep Hogan if I’m honest. However, reading between the lines, this situation has unfolded because he can’t commit to us. He has asked to explore a trade. Steven May is willing to join our club. Ideally, we keep Hogan, he re-signs and May is guaranteed as a FA in 12 months. But it’s a gamble. If we do nothing Hogan could request a trade when he’s OOC in 2019 and then Steven May has a lot more suitors and trade currency is irrelevant as he is a FA.

Put simply its the difference between being proactive and reactive. Melbourne has been reactive for far too long.

I don’t think that’s the case anymore. I wouldn’t have described the Lever acquisition as reactive. Quite the opposite.

[old dee 23,792]

3 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Jesse stays

Fin

That puts you in a very small group jr.

I think the FD are for reasons unknown to us hell bent on him leaving.

[faultydet 7,594]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

That puts you in a very small group jr.

I think the FD are for reasons unknown to us hell bent on him leaving.

Just a guess, but I think it may have something to do with something that rhymes with Premiership.

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

16 minutes ago, Dirts said:

they don't have pick 5 now, unless they get from Bris

Then that is their problem. It shouldn't be ours.

[ManDee 7,153]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Just a guess, but I think it may have something to do with something that rhymes with Premiership.

Orange? Oh that's right nothing rhymes with orange.

[P-man 13,366]

From a football perspective, Fremantle would have to be one of the least atactive prospects right now. Neale was the only thing holding their midfield together this year. With him having one foot out the door and their arguably brightest talent in Cerra having a whiff of the same, where are they actually going? Their list is not in a healthy state. That would have to be weighing heavily on Hogan’s mind. The lure of home is all well and good but he’s still a footballer. An ultra competitive one at that.

[daisycutter 29,616]

if it's a choice between getting bent over or staying, i'll take staying

i haven't put up with all this freo shyte for 4 years to get bent over by a basket case of amateurs

Edited October 11, 2018 by daisycutter

[Johnny Karate 559]

8 minutes ago, P-man said:

I don’t think that’s the case anymore. I wouldn’t have described the Lever acquisition as reactive. Quite the opposite.

I don’t consider that deal to be reactive. I think our FD has been proactive circa 2013. The far too long comment is covering prior to that...

[Diamond_Jim 12,592]

meanwhile a woman is forcibly removed from a plane in Florida because she insisted upon taking along her emotional support animal.... a red squirrel

http://www.traveller.com.au/woman-removed-from-frontier-airlines-flight-after-bringing-emotional-support-squirrel-on-board-h16ht6

PS I suspect the page count on this thread will exceed the Australian cricket teams score in the final innings tonight

Edited October 11, 2018 by Diamond_Jim

[old dee 23,792]

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

meanwhile a woman is forcibly removed from a plane in Florida because she insisted upon taking along her emotional support animal.... a red squirrel

http://www.traveller.com.au/woman-removed-from-frontier-airlines-flight-after-bringing-emotional-support-squirrel-on-board-h16ht6

PS I suspect the page count on this thread will exceed the Australian cricket teams score in the final innings tonight

You can put the house on that one.

[P-man 13,366]

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

meanwhile a woman is forcibly removed from a plane in Florida because she insisted upon taking along her emotional support animal.... a red squirrel

http://www.traveller.com.au/woman-removed-from-frontier-airlines-flight-after-bringing-emotional-support-squirrel-on-board-h16ht6

PS I suspect the page count on this thread will exceed the Australian cricket teams score in the final innings tonight

It exceeded the crowd number on page 6.

[Deestinga2 75]

As far as im concerned, the deal is over, Freo have no early !st round pics to trade now.

Hogan is easily 2 Early first rounders. He stays with us and win a flag next year.

 

[binman 43,020]

16 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Just a guess, but I think it may have something to do with something that rhymes with Premiership.

Parsnip?

[beelzebub 23,378]

28 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

wow, I go away for an hour and come back to 5 more pages; there are some mighty unproductive work centres out there!?

Every year