Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Jaded No More 68,966]

2 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I think it was the strong links back to Perth all the time that made me feel this way.

I don't begrudge him at all, it isn't a criticism just something I have always felt.

Yep he’s never felt settled here. I think a part of me always knew he’d leave prematurely

[Demons1858 1,762]

8 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

Supposedly he is best mates with Harmes. A couple of seasons ago it would have been hard to believe that James would be more important to our future success than Jesse. 

Good mates with Kent from WA who could be on the way out

[Demons1858 1,762]

If the Hogan rumour is true (which I actually believe this time) our interest in Preuse now makes a little more sense to me particularly if we are unsure whether we can extract Steven May 

[No10 461]

48 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Hogan is a gun and gave us hope when we had none, it will be a shame to lose him. But I’m also excited to see who/what we end up with as a result of trading him, I think we’re in for a cracking trade period just quietly. #WhatdoesETthetradewhispererknow?

Come on ETtradewhisperer... You need to earn this title of greatest newsbreaker on Demonland and give us something fresh.

[DSP 1,488]

15 minutes ago, drdrake said:

He must be gone then based on Tim's great journalistic efforts to uncover this. 

Journo's are paid to make statements to keep them employed.  If they don't make big statements and just deal with facts no one reads or listens to them.  If they are wrong no one holds them to account, they can say what they want, make stuff up would it right and get away with it, bit like our politicians. 

We have 117 pages based on Journo's hunches not facts.  Until we get some concrete comment for Hogan, his manager, Melbourne or Fremantle, he is a Melbourne player no point everyone saying we don't need him because we do what team doesn't need a 50 goal per year forward.

 

Take a deep breath.

Its looking more likely to happen than not and im simply passing on what was said on a radio station.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Two weeks ago on this thread posters were declaring Hogan as settled into Melb city and used Goody's comments as proof he was happy at the club and in the city. They hounded alternative speculation demanding the thread be closed.

Now we are openly saying he was never really settled here and inferring he never really bought in. With little to no actual confirmation, it's a matter of grabbing what we can as he supposedly leaves.

We're a fickle bunch!

 

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

9 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Fair point... one never really felt his comittment.

True or not I think that was somehow picked up by supporters. Recently there was a thread on here about favourite players; Gawn, Oliver and Jetta were the favourite favourites but Hogan, our leading goal kicker at the time, hardly cracked a mention 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Two weeks ago on this thread posters were declaring Hogan as settled into Melb city and used Goody's comments as proof he was happy at the club and in the city. They hounded alternative speculation demanding the thread be closed.

Now we are openly saying he was never really settled here and inferring he never really bought in. With little to no actual confirmation, it's a matter of grabbing what we can as he supposedly leaves.

We're a fickle bunch!

 

Strange how those who got their panties in a twist when others couldn't understand why they would be talking trades about a player who had, at the time, given no indication of wanting out, are now the ones not talking about the topic at all but are looking for attention and some sort of pat on the back. 

Funny, that. 

[beelzebub 23,380]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Strange how those who got their panties in a twist when others couldn't understand why they would be talking trades about a player who had, at the time, given no indication of wanting out, are now the ones not talking about the topic at all but are looking for attention and some sort of pat on the back. 

Funny, that. 

maybe because some were looking over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

and some  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Maybe some just dont believe a bloody word spoken by clubs or players... Id be one of those btw

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Two weeks ago on this thread posters were declaring Hogan as settled into Melb city and used Goody's comments as proof he was happy at the club and in the city. They hounded alternative speculation demanding the thread be closed.

Now we are openly saying he was never really settled here and inferring he never really bought in. With little to no actual confirmation, it's a matter of grabbing what we can as he supposedly leaves.

We're a fickle bunch!

 

The whole point is that the kid is aloof and shows very little emotion. He is hard to gage and I reckon some see that as a non committal attitude. What emotion we do see is often negative on-field stuff. I have never had an attachment to Hogan. He may be a super talent but he is uninspiring. 

 

The bloke is 100 per cent out the door and the sooner the circus moves on the better. I wish him all the best in Perth, I don’t know that he has the mental resolve to fulfill his potential. Dealing with a dill like Ross Lyon will be fun for him. At least he can have a surf every day 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

maybe because some were looking over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

and some  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Maybe some just dont believe a bloody word spoken by clubs or players... Id be one of those btw

Congratulations. What do you want? A nod? A pat on the back? A grope on the arse? 

You got lucky. 

[beelzebub 23,380]

personally Im happy enough to see we've arrived at discussing sensibly and civilly about a situation and how the various outcomes sit for Melbourne.  Im really only concerned about Melbourne

[beelzebub 23,380]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Congratulations. What do you want? A nod? A pat on the back? A grope on the arse? 

You got lucky. 

luck had nothing to do with it...

not nearly so much as listening and observing

[Sir Why You Little 37,052]

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

luck had nothing to do with it...

not nearly so much as listening and observing

Body Language doesn’t lie unless you practice to defy it...

[Richard Tionary 145]

I'm excited to see what we can do with the haul we receive. I'm surprisingly not that upset with Hogan leaving.

For what it's worth Sam McClure has said that Gold Coast won't accept anything but overs for May this season, and will happily let him walk in FA next year and take the compo pick. Surely a top 10 pick for him and KK would be overs? 

[dazzledavey36 55,004]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I think it was the strong links back to Perth all the time that made me feel this way.

I don't begrudge him at all, it isn't a criticism just something I have always felt.

I'm with you on this mate, before he signed his contract extension i made a comment on gere that eventually he will go back to Perth. When that would happen i wouldn't know. I got shouted down by someone ( who i wont name ) on here who thinks his [censored] don't stink, and made out that he was invested in this footy club....

Anywhere from a personal point of view theres just been too much noise on Hogan come this time of the year ever year. When theres smoke there's fire and i think his time is up with us.

As much as i can't stand him, i look at someone like Alex Neale Bullen who's from SA, who shows passion and is heavily invested in this club by taking up a leadership role up forward. Bleeds and loves the footy club.

I have never once had that feeling with Hogan.

Edited October 1, 2018 by dazzledavey36

[beelzebub 23,380]

Just now, Richard Tionary said:

I'm excited to see what we can do with the haul we receive. I'm surprisingly not that upset with Hogan leaving.

For what it's worth Sam McClure has said that Gold Coast won't accept anything but overs for May this season, and will happily let him walk in FA next year and take the compo pick. Surely a top 10 pick for him and KK would be overs? 

thats just  marking the mark on the turf.  Gamesmanship.  Clubs often say one thing for their members and public to swallow... meanwhile the FD  get busy in the real world.

Translation...May is gone..we know it...cant just give him away.

[rpfc 28,542]

@Clint Bizkit I agree with the ‘feeling’...

I think it is because he never talked and teammates never talked about him. It’s hard to grow an attachment between player and club with no fuel to form that attachment. Brayshaw, Harmes, Oliver, and Petracca I can picture earnestly talking about the club or the coach or their teammates (or being talked about in CPs case). Hogan has always been aloof in that regard.

[Mondê 525]

2 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

I'm excited to see what we can do with the haul we receive. I'm surprisingly not that upset with Hogan leaving.

For what it's worth Sam McClure has said that Gold Coast won't accept anything but overs for May this season, and will happily let him walk in FA next year and take the compo pick. Surely a top 10 pick for him and KK would be overs? 

They talk a big game for a club in crisis.

They'll accept what they are offered this year or receive a end of first round or second round compo pick next year.

I think we'll have to give more than one 1st rounder for both May and KK, maybe a 1st and a 3rd. 

Happy to buy back in to the first round of the draft, it's a super crop this year.

 

[beelzebub 23,380]

1 minute ago, Mondê said:

They talk a big game for a club in crisis.

They'll accept what they are offered this year or receive a end of first round or second round compo pick next year.

I think we'll have to give more than one 1st rounder for both May and KK, maybe a 1st and a 3rd. 

Happy to buy back in to the first round of the draft, it's a super crop this year.

 

the wiggle room...so to speak for GC is that it is very likely  that our trading with them will involve at least 2 players. This opens up the box as it were.  We're now dealing with  a"'package deal".. Melbourne offers X...we get Y. If it was/had been just about one player then GC has very little room to move ( in its own mind as far as delivering to the masses ).

Fortunately  this way it would appear both parties can come away smiling...Good for us

Go Dees

[Dirts 429]

Just want an announcement either way. The suspense is horrid. Stay or go, don’t care. We do need to get on with business and the sooner the better.

If we land May and KK and end up with a first rounder, a win for us. 

Other option.

Freo give us Neil and pick 5 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,878]

4 minutes ago, Dirts said:

Just want an announcement either way. The suspense is horrid. Stay or go, don’t care. We do need to get on with business and the sooner the better.

If we land May and KK and end up with a first rounder, a win for us. 

Other option.

Freo give us Neil and pick 5 

Neale is going to Brisbane. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

I thought Jesse would play a major part for us striving to gain the ultimate success in the years to come. I never once entertained the thought of the club trading him, but as we all know favourites leave from time to time for one reason or another. 

This would have been a major blow a few years ago but knowing we have some serious talent on the list and an opportunity to add some more eases the pain to a degree. To say I’m not upset about it though would be a lie. 

Edited October 1, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Demons1858 said:

Good mates with Kent from WA who could be on the way out

What chance Saints would be interested in Jesse?  They have not been the same since Riewoldt finished.

Who are all the clubs that need a CHF...  and have the wherewithall ?

[Ted Lasso 19,521]

34 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

I'm excited to see what we can do with the haul we receive. I'm surprisingly not that upset with Hogan leaving.

For what it's worth Sam McClure has said that Gold Coast won't accept anything but overs for May this season, and will happily let him walk in FA next year and take the compo pick. Surely a top 10 pick for him and KK would be overs? 

If they finish last the compo pick might be pick 2..