O'Meara and Stratton as outs are huge, the more so given their replacements are VFL-grade players (which isn't to say we don't carry some fringe players, because we do, it's more that their outs aren't being covered by strong replacements).

31 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Clarko will almost concede the clearances and try to set up their scoring from the back half.  The game will be played in our half.

Composure and lowering the eyes is going to be key.

This is how Geelong wanted to play us last week. In fact, I think it's how most teams will want to play us. Create scoring chains from our forward 50 turnovers and cut us up on the rebound.

It's what happened in Round 4. Inside 50s were 54-53, but we lost by 11 goals. We got enough ball inside 50 but they waltzed it back out, belted through what little "zone" we had, and found space out the back.

We're a much stronger side in all facets of the game than we were back then, of course, but if we mess up our inside 50s, miss easy shots at goal and give the ball back to them from turnovers, that's how they will work their way in front.

3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

O'Meara and Stratton as outs are huge, the more so given their replacements are VFL-grade players (which isn't to say we don't carry some fringe players, because we do, it's more that their outs aren't being covered by strong replacements).

This is how Geelong wanted to play us last week. In fact, I think it's how most teams will want to play us. Create scoring chains from our forward 50 turnovers and cut us up on the rebound.

It's what happened in Round 4. Inside 50s were 54-53, but we lost by 11 goals. We got enough ball inside 50 but they waltzed it back out, belted through what little "zone" we had, and found space out the back.

We're a much stronger side in all facets of the game than we were back then, of course, but if we mess up our inside 50s, miss easy shots at goal and give the ball back to them from turnovers, that's how they will work their way in front.

 

3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

O'Meara and Stratton as outs are huge, the more so given their replacements are VFL-grade players (which isn't to say we don't carry some fringe players, because we do, it's more that their outs aren't being covered by strong replacements).

This is how Geelong wanted to play us last week. In fact, I think it's how most teams will want to play us. Create scoring chains from our forward 50 turnovers and cut us up on the rebound.

It's what happened in Round 4. Inside 50s were 54-53, but we lost by 11 goals. We got enough ball inside 50 but they waltzed it back out, belted through what little "zone" we had, and found space out the back.

We're a much stronger side in all facets of the game than we were back then, of course, but if we mess up our inside 50s, miss easy shots at goal and give the ball back to them from turnovers, that's how they will work their way in front.

Tight botty!

Came to me in a smoke that we would win by 7 goals just on ability and system but with Stratton and OMeara out make that 13.... dare to dream Dees... we are the REAL thing ... oooommmaa

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

This is a game we should win even if O'Meara was playing.

For me it's telling that none of their 3 "ins" would get a game in our 22.

Schoenmakers might get a nod for the emergency list but the other two wouldn't. 

 

But footy is a funny game.

We have to watch the five metre kicks that will be paid by you know who, along with pushes and marking in Hawthorn's inside 50....

16 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

O'Meara and Stratton as outs are huge, the more so given their replacements are VFL-grade players (which isn't to say we don't carry some fringe players, because we do, it's more that their outs aren't being covered by strong replacements).

This is how Geelong wanted to play us last week. In fact, I think it's how most teams will want to play us. Create scoring chains from our forward 50 turnovers and cut us up on the rebound.

It's what happened in Round 4. Inside 50s were 54-53, but we lost by 11 goals. We got enough ball inside 50 but they waltzed it back out, belted through what little "zone" we had, and found space out the back.

We're a much stronger side in all facets of the game than we were back then, of course, but if we mess up our inside 50s, miss easy shots at goal and give the ball back to them from turnovers, that's how they will work their way in front.

GWS tried the same strategy. In the past two wins we kept Geelong and GWS to very low scores. Enormous forward pressure will counter that setup. Maybe the rope a dope strategy is now passé? 

Was feeling pretty nervous since the teams came out but a caller to SEN from Thailand of all places calmed me down a tad a short time ago. 

Said we were the kid that’s been bullied non-stop growing up and now we are a muscly 18 year old and it’s vengeance time. Finished off by saying Hawthorn will have their neck snapped tomorrow night. Let’s hope he’s right, although he sounded like he had guzzled several Singhas.

 

23 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

of the 49 Jordan Lewis has 23  at hawthorn right ??

2 minutes ago, markc said:

of the 49 Jordan Lewis has 23  at hawthorn right ??

who else has experience? Hibberd and Melksham had 1 game each at Essendon, Nathan Jones had maybe 2 in his first season and the rest are the 22 from last week. Is that right?

1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Clarko will almost concede the clearances and try to set up their scoring from the back half.  The game will be played in our half.

Composure and lowering the eyes is going to be key.

Need to hold on to the ball as long as possible until the right option presents itself...

41 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

 

Said we were the kid that’s been bullied non-stop growing up and now we are a muscly 18 year old and it’s vengeance time. Finished off by saying Hawthorn will have their neck snapped tomorrow night. 

 

Thats exactly how i have been feeling all week. Time to smash this mob!

Nervous.. not quite as nervous as last week, as I now know we can handle finals, but this mob worry me. 

On 9/11/2018 at 8:21 AM, —coach— said:

Just welcomed a new Demon member to the world at just the right time that I can get to the game this Friday!!! Was due last Friday, arrived this morning, our 3rd child (2 girls, now a boy).

Im taking this as an omen ???

Welcome to the Demon brood, bring us nothing but good things.????

17 minutes ago, Wunders said:

who else has experience? Hibberd and Melksham had 1 game each at Essendon, Nathan Jones had maybe 2 in his first season and the rest are the 22 from last week. Is that right?

Yep that's right. Before last week Lewis had 23, Jones the two from 2016, and Hibberd/Melksham one each (vs North Melbourne in 2014).

24 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Was feeling pretty nervous since the teams came out but a caller to SEN from Thailand of all places calmed me down a tad a short time ago. 

Said we were the kid that’s been bullied non-stop growing up and now we are a muscly 18 year old and it’s vengeance time. Finished off by saying Hawthorn will have their neck snapped tomorrow night. Let’s hope he’s right, although he sounded like he had guzzled several Singhas.

 

The bullied boy has learnt how to take care of himself. #Redemptiontime

24 minutes ago, america de cali said:

GWS tried the same strategy. In the past two wins we kept Geelong and GWS to very low scores. Enormous forward pressure will counter that setup. Maybe the rope a dope strategy is now passé? 

Yep.

The way we play, we have to have that pressure dialled up to stop sides using the space we deliberately leave whilst pressing forward. Round 4 (and Queen's Birthday) were good examples of what happens when that pressure just isn't there, but the past few weeks have shown what happens when it goes the other way and we're right on top with our pressure.

Jeez the notion we will just romp it in now JoM and ol mullet statton are out is just frightening 

Maybe my memory is going, but isn't the big factor in R4 was that we had no idea how to play in the wet, but this seems to be ignored.  

I hope we aren't forgetting the calibre of players Hawks still has at their disposal. Lets smash em!

16 minutes ago, Ante_Up said:

Jeez the notion we will just romp it in now JoM and ol mullet statton are out is just frightening 

How many times have we gone into a game specifically against Hawthorn with 'they are missing such and such and so and so etc et al so we have a real chance' only to be smashed apart?

Amazingly, I now just see it as another chance to treat the old MFCSS. Which... kind of suggests that it is already in remission.

Edited September 13, 20186 yr by Little Goffy

9 hours ago, BigFez said:

No source quoted from the speculator and a couple of other posters have since said he was at training with no strapping and moving well.

He'll play.

Good call @BigFez

9 hours ago, BigFez said:

No source quoted from the speculator and a couple of other posters have since said he was at training with no strapping and moving well.

He'll play.

Good call @BigFez

1 hour ago, Wunders said:

who else has experience? Hibberd and Melksham had 1 game each at Essendon, Nathan Jones had maybe 2 in his first season and the rest are the 22 from last week. Is that right?

Yup. All the guys from last week

Edited September 13, 20186 yr by Trisul

They have dropped Ceglar so I suspect they will concede some hitouts but have more run and carry. Mirra killed us at Casey a few weeks back so is on good form but I think he is still a fringe player...

Pressure is what we have to bring. Don't let them get their kicking game together.