Casey Demons v Williamstown - Round 21

[Mickey 4,197]

45 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

You know where it's being played?

Punt Road

Edited August 25, 2018 by Mickey

[DV8 2,271]

3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Sounds better than the C407 end ... perhaps we should name them ... a poll perhaps ??

Maybe the Berwick end ?

[monoccular 16,368]

Diamond Jim

A quick look at google maps indicates that Casey has a southern end which happens to be nearer the sea than the other end which is often referred to as the northern end, or far less commonly the anti- southern end

Hope that makes it all clearer. 

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

First time I've had a chance to watch Casey in any kind of meaningful way for a while and there wasn't much too like.

Pedersen - when Casey were moving the ball with any sort of fluidity, he looked extremely dangerous, but was too often called on to try and combat Meese in the ruck when others had failed.  Kicked three goals, tried his heart out and still remains a very good player at this level.  7/10

King -  completely outpointed by Meese in a performance that waxed between horrendous and abysmal. Seemingly did not have the athleticism to leap at ruck contests in any sort of meaningful way and at boundary throw-ins was either manhandled or meekly gave up front position.  His few good moments were the odd ground level pick up and neat hand pass but they were few and far between in a very low rating afternoon at the office. 1/10

Petty - had very little influence on the game and seemed to let the match pass by, bar the odd well-executed possession and strong attack on the contest.  With Hutchins and Keilty, unable to quell the influences of Rodda and the footballing genius that is Jaylon Thorpe in the second half.  A long way away from senior football. 3/10

Garlett - in conditions that suited him, Jeffy played a very good first half, kicking his trademark goals and applying more pressure than in recent times.  Faded away in the second half as opportunities to be an influence dried up.  But he's given the selectors another option if he can maintain this level of form/intensity. 7/10

Johnstone - his stats are padded by multiple kicks to himself to play on from point kick ins but he had a serviceable game all the same.  His kicking was on the whole good and he kicks well off both sides (penetrating right foot/neat short kicking game by left foot) which is pleasing particularly for a defender.  The question mark on him is is he nimble to shutdown good AFL quality small forwards because at times he looked a little robotic today both defensively and also in trying to evade trouble with ball in hand. 6/10

Smith - like Pedersen, in the first half when Casey was on top he looked dangerous both at ground level and in the air.  Unfortunately, he wasted shots at goal and burned some likely attacking chains.  In the second half he seemed to disappear from view like many others. 4/10

McKenna - played quite well in the first half, using the ball nicely and intercepting on occasion.  In the second half, he was quite poor, missing an easy shot at goal and making a few disposal and handling errors that were absent from his first half display.   To sum him up, you'd say he doesn't do enough for an AFL listed player playing at this level, but he does look a lot heavier and less fleet across the ground than he did in his junior and GWS days so perhaps he is still getting his body right and still adjusting to the tempo. 4/10

Josh Wagner - solid game from Wagner.  Made very few mistakes and was by and large tidy quarterbacking across the half-back line. A noticeably good player at the level without being particularly damaging. 6/10

Keilty - thought he was quite good in the first half and took a couple of towering marks, but I was quite disappointed that when Williamstown charged in the second half and the ball was going inside their attacking fifty with regularity that he wasn't able get his clutch some relieving marks - as his forte - and stop Rodda in particular having an influence.  5/10

Lockhart - good little player, versatile, has a dip and has a bit of skill about him.  Can see him getting drafted around the 40 mark.  The only thing with him is that I wouldn't bother keeping JKH around if he is to be picked up because with Stretch coming back it will push him so far down the queue to getting a game, I don't see the point having him on the list.

Corey Wagner - good VFL and had a workmanlike game, but his lack of polish hurt Casey at times.  I think he probably deserves another chance on an AFL list as a rookie list, not necessarily at Melbourne though.

Hutchins - ran around did a few good things and a few awful things.  In the third quarter he was horrible defensively but he shouldn't have been the one competing one v one with Rodda.  Regarding his suitability for AFL football, he isn't.

Munro cracked in as usual as a negator, Gent was neat at times and Jaxon Briggs had some moments running, carrying and delivering but on the whole the Casey crew were disappointing.

Best: Pedersen, Lockhart, Garlett, J.Wagner, C.Wagner, Johnstone.

Edited August 25, 2018 by goodoil

[whatwhat say what 19,630]

watched on tv for the most part, and gee the second half was poor

thought johnstone was - as goodoil noted - neat by foot, but he gets caught ball-watching a lot

wagner probably the best of the demons from my spot on the couch, closely followed by pedersen

there ain't much left when the likes of jkh and bugg are sitting on the sidelines awaiting late call-up against gw$

[CBDees 3,162]

13 hours ago, KC from Casey said:

There goes the full time siren to signal a comprehensive victory to Williamstown after Cam Pedersen kicks his third goal and Jeff Garlett his fourth at the 37 minute mark of the final term.

Casey will play Geelong at home in the Qualifying Final next weekend. Times to be advised. 

Peter Jackson VFL 2018

Casey Demons 3.3.21 7.4.46 8.8.56 12.13.85

Williamstown   2.2.14 7.5.47 11.10.76 17.12.114 

Goals 

Casey Demons Garlett 4 Pedersen 3 Hutchins 2 Lockhart Lok T Smith  

Williamstown Rodda 4 Cavarra 3 Dunell George Gibbons Thorpe 2 Norton  Schultz 

Best

Casey Demons Lockhart Garlett C Wagner Johnstone Pedersen Freeman

Williamstown Gibbons Bewley Cavarra Meese Rodda Masters

Statistics 
Cory Stockdale 1 behind kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points
Corey Wagner 2 behinds 10 kicks 11 handballs 21 disposals 2 marks 8 tackles 91 dream team points
Josh Wagner 15 kicks 9 handballs 24 disposals 2  marks 11 tackles 110 dream team points
Mitch White 11 kicks 5 handballs 16 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 75 dream team points

Why was Corey Wagner rather then Josh Wagner listed amongst the best players when the statistics seemed to suggest the opposite (viz. 110   vs 91 dream time points)?

p.s. Goodoil (post #129) suggests Josh was the better of the two but had both amongst the best players.

Edited August 25, 2018 by CBDees
Just read Goodoil’s post

[Demonland 66,370]

OVERPOWERED BY KC from Casey

The Casey Demons missed out on the minor premiership when they were overpowered after half time by Williamstown to go down by 29 points in the last game of the VFL regular season at Casey Fields on Saturday. The injury-depleted Demons have limped through their last two games after 12 wins in a row and only managed to keep the right to a home final after a come-from-behind victory saw the Box Hill Hawks upset Geelong’s VFL side at City Oval Box Hill.

The sun shone and the air was crisp with signs of an early coming of spring as the home side relished the conditions and dominated the early going scoring three of the game’s opening four goals. Cam Pederson was on fire booting the first two and Jeff Garlett shrugged of the criticism of his recent lethargic performances with a great chase, running down an opponent and converting to give his team a 13 point lead deep into the opening term. The Demons should have been further in front at this stage with Pedersen, Tim Smith and Declan Keilty winning handsomely in the air and the Wagner brothers mopping up the ball at ground level. A late goal to the Seagulls gave them a glimmer of hope as the scoreboard which showed them 7 points in arrears at the main break really flattered them.

Tim Smith, who has been off target in recent times, finally found the target with a snap on goal but the dogged Williamstown runners suddenly found their feet to pile on three quick goals to grab the lead. Garlett struck a purple patch and responded with two of his trademark opportunist goals and an arm wrestle followed that saw the visitors benefit from some lucky umpiring decisions to take a one point lead into half time.

With the game evenly poised in the early stages of the third quarter, the Seagull runners gradually got on top and took control of the midfield with the result that they broke through for three goals to take a grip on the game. They were helped by some questionable umpiring decisions that frustrated the Demons and, despite a goal to Goy Lok against the run of play, they looked beaten at three quarter time when another goal on the siren restored a 20 point lead in favour of the visitors who then booted four in quick succession to nail the game.

The Demons were definitely feeling the effects of a long list of injuries at Melbourne and lacked the depth necessary to hold sway over a top line an in-form opposition but notwithstanding, the efforts of their leading VFL listed players like Jay Lockhart, Corey Wagner and, to a lesser extent Jimmy Munro, were outstanding while youngsters Cory Stockdale and Tom Freeman (in his second game) were also impressive. Demon listed players Dion Johnstone and Pat McKenna showed some good signs playing their best football at the club so far.

The Casey Demons move on to the qualifying final at Casey Fields against Geelong VFL next Saturday and should be strengthened by the return to the fold of a few eligible Melbourne players during the AFL bye weekend.

Peter Jackson VFL 2018

Casey Demons 3.3.21 7.4.46 8.8.56 12.13.85

Williamstown   2.2.14 7.5.47 11.10.76 17.12.114 

Goals 

Casey Demons Garlett 4 Pedersen 3 Hutchins 2 Lockhart Lok T Smith  

Williamstown Rodda 4 Cavarra 3 Dunell George Gibbons Thorpe 2 Norton  Schultz 

Best

Casey Demons Lockhart Garlett C Wagner Johnstone Pedersen Freeman

Williamstown Gibbons Bewley Cavarra Meese Rodda Masters

Statistics 

Jaxon Briggs  5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 20 dream team points
Wayne Collis 2 kicks 2 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 24 dream team points
Tom Freeman 5 kicks 4 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 35 dream team points
Jeffrey Garlett 4 goals 11 kicks 4 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 90 dream team points
Mitch Gent 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 42 dream team points
Jack Hutchins 2 goals 10 kicks 2 handballs 12 disposals 5 marks 55 dream team points   
Dion Johnstone 1 behind 18 kicks 2 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 79 dream team points
Declan Keilty 7 kicks 7 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 48 dream team points
Mitch King 1 kicks 6 handballs 7 disposals 3 tackles 17 hit outs 41 dream team points
Mykelti Lefau 1 behind 4 kicks 5 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 2 hit outs 38 dream team points
Jay Lockhart 1 goal 3 behinds 15 kicks 8 handballs 23 disposals 6 marks 8 tackles 121 dream team points 
Goy Lok 1 goal 3 kicks 4 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 47 dream team points
Pat McKenna 1 behind 11 kicks 4 handballs 15 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 73 dream team point
Cory Machaya kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points
James Munro 1 behind 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 1 marks 7 tackles 56 dream team points 
Cameron Pedersen 3 goals 1 behind 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 7 hit outs 105 dream team points
Harry Petty 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks  1 tackles 26 dream team points
Angus Scott 3 kicks 4 handballs 7 disposals 1 mark 20 dream team points
Tim Smith 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 1 handballs 8 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 4 hit outs 56 dream team points
Cory Stockdale 1 behind 8 kicks 10 handballs 18 disposals 4 marks 9 tackles 94 dream team points
Corey Wagner 2 behinds 10 kicks 11 handballs 21 disposals 2 marks 8 tackles 91 dream team points
Josh Wagner 15 kicks 9 handballs 24 disposals 2  marks 11 tackles 110 dream team points
Mitch White 11 kicks 5 handballs 16 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 75 dream team points

[Diamond_Jim 11,995]

9 hours ago, DV8 said:

Maybe the Berwick end ?

I like the sound of the Berwick end. brings back memories of when I fought at Culloden with my Celtic cousins

[KC from Casey 6,672]

7 hours ago, CBDees said:

Why was Corey Wagner rather then Josh Wagner listed amongst the best players when the statistics seemed to suggest the opposite (viz. 110   vs 91 dream time points)?

p.s. Goodoil (post #129) suggests Josh was the better of the two but had both amongst the best players.

I agree with you that Josh was the better (slightly) of the Wagners on the day. I had to check the VFL site to make sure that it was Corey who was named.

Against that, I felt that Corey was the better of the two last week but Josh was named so go figure.