Changes vs Adelaide

[davo 209]

2 hours ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

In: Hannan

out: JKH. 

With all things considered the performance wasn’t bad, losing sucks though. No one really doing consistently well enough in the VFL to force any changes, but I think Vandenberg will come in 2 more weeks. I think Baker is close to a game but I also don’t really see him slotting into our midfield at the moment. 

 

Also, want to say it calls for Keilty are rubbish, his season this year has been nothing compared to last year, but I also think they’ve seen enough to suggest he probably isn’t up to AFL level and will be gone come years end. 

Hannan is not the answer, he can be a bit soft, he plays well in teams going well but not when the pressure is on

[Mad_Melbourne 877]

1 minute ago, davo said:

Hannan is not the answer, he can be a bit soft, he plays well in teams going well but not when the pressure is on

It’s fair, he hasn’t had the same output he had last year, but I think a lot of his work goes unnoticed. His work in the contest at ground level running through the contest is what he brings. He can compete in the air and often is able to get out the back. I have him ahead of Bugg, Kent, JKH and AVB (only based on needing time.) it’s a different role and I don’t think that Baker (only player really warranting a game) plays this type of footy

[Ethan Tremblay 30,861]

I feel for the guy but JKH has to go. 

Vandenburglar in. 

Edited July 22, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Go the Biff 3,423]

10 hours ago, deanox said:

I don't understand the love for Vanders here. Although I appreciated his effort and attack on the ball in 2015 there is nothing about him that makes him an auto in. 

When playing he averaged 15 disposals,  4 tackles and half a goal per game. Nothing special, nothing better than JKH or Hannan. 

He is no more experienced than JKH or Hannan, all with around 30 games. 

He has never played under Goodwin and hardly trained with them, meaning he won't know our system/ structure/ game plan

He may have limited endurance due to his time out of the game. 

 

Although we're live him for nostalgia reasons - he tried hard for us when we were horrible - he isn't asuperstar or walk up 22 player,  so given he is underdone rushing him in makes no sense.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder........

or the longer you're out, the better you were

[samcantstandya 1,053]

35 minutes ago, davo said:

Hannan is not the answer, he can be a bit soft, he plays well in teams going well but not when the pressure is on

Can't have him & Garlett on same side they go AWOL

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

20 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Can't have him & Garlett on same side they go AWOL

Yes you can both ain't that bad.

[dworship 3,342]

Has anyone heard anything about Harmes having a broken hand?

[DV8 2,271]

23 hours ago, The Stewster said:

Feel a bit sorry for Jeffy, he was in the right spots a few times but others didn't give the handball. Should have had 4 goals.

A few of our players got burnt by teammates not looking, yesterday.  And Jeffy was burnt by JKH, who blazed away, skying a ball thru the points.

Jeffy would have walked into goal on that occasion.

23 hours ago, Skuit said:

I just can't work out what JKH brings to the team.  Or what they're expecting him to develop into.

Strong run, hard work.

Not, too bad, for one game.   Could have been better, could have been worse.  But no consolation for Hibberd.

[Skuit 10,031]

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

Strong run, hard work.

Not, too bad, for one game.   Could have been better, could have been worse.  But no consolation for Hibberd.

JKH has zero weapons DV8, with no obvious potential upside in any footballing discipline. He's become less damaging if anything. Kent, Bugg, Frost - these players at least bring something to the mix.  

[What 18,810]

25 minutes ago, dworship said:

Has anyone heard anything about Harmes having a broken hand?

Wouldn't that be something. Right as hes playing his best footy in a new role.

Cant afford to lose another good player.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

38 minutes ago, dworship said:

Has anyone heard anything about Harmes having a broken hand?

No, but this has Melbourne is cursed written all over it. 

 

[DV8 2,271]

28 minutes ago, Skuit said:

JKH has zero weapons DV8, with no obvious potential upside in any footballing discipline. He's become less damaging if anything. Kent, Bugg, Frost - these players at least bring something to the mix.  

I know what you say, and I thought the same last year,,, and I think we said the same about ANB a couple of seasons back, and also Harmes to a slight lesser extent, a couple years back.

Also Jones, TMc, OMc, Pedo, Weide, Gawnus went under the radar a few seasons back...

I think the club holds more faith long term in JKH than we all do.  And they haven't done a hell of a lot wrong in the past few seasons (Fritsch). 

SO i'm watching with baited breadth, to see where JKH and Stretch, and pozzibly CWagner, Lockhart, etc, end up and take us to?

Apart from spending too much here and there, on players.

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[poita 3,902]

JKH was a poor selection two weeks ago, should have been dropped after his ordinary game against the Dogs and had another shocker against Geelong. He is an obvious out.

We clearly need another tall defender for the Crows, and I would play Pedersen for his ability to follow Jenkins into the ruck. McDonald would then take Walker, Frost would get McGovern and Smith can take Lynch.

I would love to bring in another midfielder, but there isn't one at Casey. Salem can perhaps push up the ground and have some midfield time given the Crows have a tall forward line.

in: Pedersen, out Kennedy-Harris

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,775]

1 minute ago, poita said:

JKH was a poor selection two weeks ago, should have been dropped after his ordinary game against the Dogs and had another shocker against Geelong. He is an obvious out.

We clearly need another tall defender for the Crows, and I would play Pedersen for his ability to follow Jenkins into the ruck. McDonald would then take Walker, Frost would get McGovern and Smith can take Lynch.

I would love to bring in another midfielder, but there isn't one at Casey. Salem can perhaps push up the ground and have some midfield time given the Crows have a tall forward line.

in: Pedersen, out Kennedy-Harris

I think this is right

Pedersen gives us options, and Tmac can be spared too long in the ruck

[Demon_JB 1,385]

Out: J Smith (did alright, harsh on him but think we can do better) JKH

In: Pederson, Kent

 

 

[SFebes 4,884]

Effort was there, maybe one change JKH out, unsure who'd come in, maybe Bugg, surely he's better than JKH and been in form. But are his papers stamped? AVB needs more game time, two of his 3 games have only been 3 quarters? Selection and continuity going into this part of the season is absolutely critical, no more stuffing around with it and experimenting.

[hells bells 2,023]

 I thought Smith was pretty good.  His speed and athleticism are important to the team at the moment.  I’d play him on Tom Lynch.  OMac to Jenkins, Frost to Walker, Jetta to Betts.

[drdrake 3,163]

Don't we have a guy at Casey that is kicking a number of goals each week.  Bring in Weiderman, tell him to stand and make a contest against the loose man in defense, I reckon Geelong had 8-10 incept marks by their loose man around 30ms out from our goal.  The blocked Hogans and McDonalds run to create the contest, we need a contest.  Their isn't a lot at Casey out side this.  

In Weiderman

Out JKH

If it rains you wouldn't consider this though

 

 

Edited July 23, 2018 by drdrake

[old55 23,576]

I'm not an ANB fan but he was very good against Geelong.  Generally clean ball winning and he used it well.

[Fat Tony 5,231]

Hannan for JKH if he is fit. Otherwise no change for me.

Vandenberg needs another week or two in the VFL. Pedersen was our best in the VFL, but I prefer the balance of our side at the moment.

[Deemania since 56 6,639]

15 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Pedersen May come in this week to play back.

Whilst he is fit, more mobile and ready, it is about time Pedo came in! Roles await forward and back. Provides talls/big swaps in functions and he is a core focal plane for winning games. Next, we need to get Vanders back into the team. Wagner, as well, for multiple roles but replacing Lewis is a key role. Kent, as well, ASAP.

[jnrmac 20,065]

6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I'm not an ANB fan but he was very good against Geelong.  Generally clean ball winning and he used it well.

Must have watched a different game

[Deemania since 56 6,639]

15 hours ago, monoccular said:

And Roos to CHB

Great! Still would get a kick, too. Just imagine improving our backline with the return of Hibberd and Lever, then call upon Pert and Roos to re-plan and work through a backline development stronger than Fort Knox. 

[Roost It 1,434]

1 hour ago, juzzk1d said:

Out: J Smith (did alright, harsh on him but think we can do better) JKH

In: Pederson, Kent

 

 

A solid step backwards 

[Deemania since 56 6,639]

33 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Hannan for JKH if he is fit. Otherwise no change for me.

Vandenberg needs another week or two in the VFL. Pedersen was our best in the VFL, but I prefer the balance of our side at the moment.

Balance? That is precisely what is missing!!!! So let's play better without the balancing acts of the unsure.