43 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Keeping in mind that Frost was out of contract, who else would you have sacrificed instead? 

Out of contract, has trade value and wanted by another club. 

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

In part, It’s not a coincidence that our best footy for the last two years occurred when we had a fit VDB marauding on a wing. This season was severely cruelled by him and KK being unavailable. 

We’ve now some depth on the wings which will help a lot... 

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by PaulRB

A whole lot of extra highlights of Langdon not in the Demons video. 

 

My opinion,

With Langdon and Tomlinson in the best 22     (I hope)   we should be a better side,   Frosty out  makes not much difference but I wont have too much heart  burn watching him  run out of defense,  easier to go to the football, but we still have Omac !

I thought he had improved 2018    not sure now.

 

Do we get any one else ???

Mahoney made a great trade here. Bell is clearly difficult to work with, he turned down 6 + 2020 3rd for Hill from the Saints when they gave him a deadline and now the Saints have split the pick with GWS they will be miles apart on that trade and Hill is in contract. Meanwhile our business is done with Freo.

12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

A whole lot of extra highlights of Langdon not in the Demons video. 

 

Jesus thats some bloody impressive highlights

24 minutes ago, Demonland said:

A whole lot of extra highlights of Langdon not in the Demons video. 

 

A lot to like.  Goal sense. 50+ m kicks for goals. Stronng overhead, and under physical pressure, marking. Ability to get on the end of possession chains and also find himself in space (ie not squeezing a kick out while under pressure).

Welcome to the club Ed!

He's EXACTLY what we need. I've been a fan for a few years, and he is one of the best wingmen in the AFL. Statistically, he is virtually identical to Brad Hill, actually edges him slightly, and we got him for a sliver of the cost AND he's only 23. 

He could be one of our best trade ins we've had in a long long time.

Langdon.  Yes exactly what we need. Run. Outside pace. Run. And Run.  Will love the MCG.  He is a wingman. 

(Imo I still don’t think Tomlinson is set for the wing.  He is versatile and may fix a CHB or CHF need)  

 

Give it some time but I think the Langdon trade will look like a steal. I get a feeling with these things....deep....in my plumbs.

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

With Tomlinson and Langdon arriving that improves our best 22, Langdon in particular is at a really good age for us and his best footy is ahead of him. 

This is a fantastic get for the club - there's no other way this can be viewed.

Great athlete (speed, endurance), great footy brain (finds plenty of the ball) and is at the perfect age, with a proven track record at senior level (top five last two Best and Fairest).

Langdon on one wing, compliments Tomlinson on the other.  Two very different players with complimentary skill-sets we've brought in for the price of a second pick and some cash.

This is such a huge win. This kid can seriously gut run. I love the highlight where he kicks to someone at half forward and then goes on running to receive it in the forward 50. This is what we need

8 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

 

 

8 hours ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

But where’s that feather in his cap??

It's cut off in that photo. Just a little purple one that sits nicely just out of frame (much to the little man's chagrin).

8 hours ago, Nasher said:

The probability of the player we like being taken between 22 and 26 and there not being another player of similar ilk that we like being available is a million to one. That part of the trade isn’t even the cream on top, it’s the puff of air that comes out of the can after the cream. It’s zero cost.

Good to have you back, mate. It's been awfully quiet around here.

8 hours ago, deanox said:

Today's wrap:

Upgrading a NQR defender who is borderline best 22 when everyone is fit, and who constantly breaks team rules and structures but is exciting, for a top 5-10 player who is only 23 and fills a specific need, for the equivalent cost of ~pick 52.

Today was a win. 

Great post. You too are on fire lately, @deanox.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Langdon.  Yes exactly what we need. Run. Outside pace. Run. And Run.  Will love the MCG.  He is a wingman. 

(Imo I still don’t think Tomlinson is set for the wing.  He is versatile and may fix a CHB or CHF need)  

 

Tomlinson has identical dimensions as G. Lyon. You might be on the money hete

 

4 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

It's Frost + plastic steak knives for Langdon Rono. How can you not love that?

Because TGR is a troll.

4 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Draft best available and select players for need.

All of a sudden we might be able to win at the MCG. The wings have been our deficiency since Goodwin took over (since 1987).

 

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jesus thats some bloody impressive highlights

That play at 1.19. ?

Seriously, why are 75% of the highlights the goals he’s kicked. We’re acquiring him for his run and carry. I have no want or need to watch him kicking a goal that my grandmother could kick from half a metre out. I wanna watch him darting down the wing and hitting up teammates on the [censored].

Stuff like this annoys me. There is more to the game than kicking goals ffs.

Maybe I am just becoming a grumpy old man.

5 minutes ago, P-man said:

Seriously, why are 75% of the highlights the goals he’s kicked. We’re acquiring him for his run and carry. I have no want or need to watch him kicking a goal that my grandmother could kick from half a metre out. I wanna watch him darting down the wing and hitting up teammates on the [censored].

Stuff like this annoys me. There is more to the game than kicking goals ffs.

Maybe I am just becoming a grumpy old man.

Because to get to half a metre out to kick the gimme goal he has to run bloody hard, and outrun his opponent. And it makes his opponent a little more wary and defensive.

3 hours ago, PaulRB said:

In part, It’s not a coincidence that our best footy for the last two years occurred when we had a fit VDB marauding on a wing. This season was severely cruelled by him and KK being unavailable. 

We’ve now some depth on the wings which will help a lot... 

It will be interesting to see how they fill the other 40% of game time on the wing. Clearly the futures of VDB and KK are still very uncertain but I think if KK comes back they can settle him where he's played his best footy at half back and have him earn a spot there before worrying about the wing again. Meanwhile if Vanders makes it back to fitness they can have him at half forward rather than big midfield minutes. Probably still a need to keep drafting wing/forward kind of players or mids with more versatility.

Still it's far easier to fill in for 5-10 minutes a quarter on a wing when the regular guys do a mountain of running and play most of the game.

3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Can I add to this, someone with trade value. 

The Langdon and Frost trades should be viewed independently and the only real link was our salary cap. We already had picks, so we could have easily used them to get Langdon. And we hardly got that much for Frost anyway (sum of value worth roughly #50). 
 

From a salary cap perspective, Spargo, Oscar McDonald, Preuss and Baker are all examples of our poor list mismanagement, as they are over paid/won’t make it. So I would have pushed one of them out.

Anyway, getting Langdon is by far the highlight of our trade period. 

9 minutes ago, P-man said:

Seriously, why are 75% of the highlights the goals he’s kicked. We’re acquiring him for his run and carry. I have no want or need to watch him kicking a goal that my grandmother could kick from half a metre out. I wanna watch him darting down the wing and hitting up teammates on the [censored].

Stuff like this annoys me. There is more to the game than kicking goals ffs.

Maybe I am just becoming a grumpy old man.

Probably because the social media team make the highlights not so much the recruiting team and it's easy to search through footage with 'Langdon + goal' and grab the highlights than searching line breaking runs throughout games.

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

It will be interesting to see how they fill the other 40% of game time on the wing. Clearly the futures of VDB and KK are still very uncertain but I think if KK comes back they can settle him where he's played his best footy at half back and have him earn a spot there before worrying about the wing again. Meanwhile if Vanders makes it back to fitness they can have him at half forward rather than big midfield minutes. Probably still a need to keep drafting wing/forward kind of players or mids with more versatility.

Still it's far easier to fill in for 5-10 minutes a quarter on a wing when the regular guys do a mountain of running and play most of the game.

Agree on KK. We should avoid drafting outside midfielders though. Better to have too many inside midfielders than miss on our picks IMO. 

11 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Because to get to half a metre out to kick the gimme goal he has to run bloody hard, and outrun his opponent. And it makes his opponent a little more wary and defensive.

Yeah sure. I just don’t consider joe the goose goals as “highlights”. It seems like these highlights packages are basically every goal a player has ever kicked and the odd mark and tackle thrown in for good measure.

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by P-man