Changes vs Gold Coast

[Redleg 40,909]

If Salem is fit he comes in, probably for ANB, who has had low disposals and high turnovers, despite his pressure acts.

I would rest Vince for a game and save him the travel as well, on the back of a 6 day turnaround and a heavy recent load.

That makes a spot for Viney if he is to come straight in.

Garlett is the interesting one, with poor recent form, but 5 match winning goals last time at the Gabba.

To be honest, I would save Viney the travel and play him the next week at the G against the Blues and just do the two changes above, Salem and Jeffy for ANB and Vince.

BTW any talk of dropping Spargo is mad, he is a revelation. Has not made a mistake. We need to get as many games into him, Bayley and Weid as possible.

PS. A big hello to the Oscar haters of last year, he has been nothing short of sensational and is becoming one of our most important players.

Edited May 8, 2018 by Redleg

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

17 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

 

ANB led our pressure acts yesterday for what it’s worth. 

He got my blood pressure up, that's for sure.

[Demon3 2,541]

i reckon Bernie Vince almost played one of his best games last week for us, committed, disciplined, used it really well and was tough and steady. That's all he has to do.. i think he is having a pretty good year.

 

In saying that, 32 years old, will be his 4th game in 19 days.. it makes sense to rest him if he needs it.

 

IN: Viney

Salem

OUT: Vince

ANB

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

If Viney is fit to play football, then he is fit to play AFL. 

He knows how to play football, he is not a fringe player.

We almost have a full healthy list, someone has to make way for the skipper.

I would bring him in this week, get an AFL game or 2  under his belt so he is cherry ripe for the Crows game.

We haven't beaten a  2017 top 8 side this year. Adelaide has got to be our first scalp.

Surprisingly we haven't lost to a 2017 bottom 8 side.

Now if Viney comes in who does he compete with. 

FIIK?

[Deespicable 2,726]

Based on what I saw when I rode past Gosch's training this morning I'm tipping no changes.

But hopefully the two ins whom everybody is talking about both show up on Thursday and look fit and fresh and have not had any setbacks.

[What 18,810]

3 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

Based on what I saw when I rode past Gosch's training this morning I'm tipping no changes.

What did you see?

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

Decided to drop Hunt and ANB instead of Weid and Hannan.

B: JETTA, O.MCDONALD, J.LEWIS

HB: HIBBERD, LEVER, SALEM

C : TYSON, OLIVER, JONES

HF: PETRACCA, HOGAN, SPARGO

F: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, FRITSCH

FOLL: GAWN, BRAYSHAW, VINEY

IC: VINCE, HANNAN, HARMES, WEIDEMAN

 

[Lord Ivanhoe 311]

On 5/7/2018 at 8:20 PM, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Is this the same unit that bought him back too early last year and cooked him??

No not the same unit. I know Dr. David Bolzonello from Alphington sports medicine clinic joined the MFC this year.

The crew at Alphington have been working with elite athletes/olympians for the 25 years I have been going. He takes no [censored] and will not be forced into anything. IMHO he was the one that said Viney/Tmac would not play for 6-8 weeks!

[Wolfturdo 123]

On 5/7/2018 at 8:30 PM, grazman said:

I think both Viney and Salem come back in.  Who for will be tough.  I'd also like Garlett to come back in with our new structure up forward as he's able to provide more opportunities than Hannan IMO.

That’s a load of crap. Why bring in two underdone guys when you don’t know who to drop? And why should Hannan fall victim of 1 quiet game and you’re out?

[layzie 33,796]

2 minutes ago, Wolfturdo said:

That’s a load of crap. Why bring in two underdone guys when you don’t know who to drop? And why should Hannan fall victim of 1 quiet game and you’re out?

Take it easy mate! They gotta come in at some point. I’m thinking ANB obviously out for Viney. If Salem is fit maybe Jayden could be out for another spell? Or possibly Bernie to be rested. 

I’d love to see Jeff in but I’m not too keen on Hannan making way just at the moment.

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

12 minutes ago, Wolfturdo said:

That’s a load of crap. Why bring in two underdone guys when you don’t know who to drop? And why should Hannan fall victim of 1 quiet game and you’re out?

2 underdone players? Viney yes but Salem's only been out for a week.

[Demons11 7,009]

3 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

2 underdone players? Viney yes but Salem's only been out for a week.

People would have thought that T Mac would be underdone but he has shown this is not the case. 

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

Why anyone would want Viney to play in the VFL has got me stuffed when we are playing a VFL standard team in the Suns. The best of both worlds for Viney.

I think Melbourne are just playing games. Guns like Viney just don't play VFL footy, a complete waste of talent if he plays in the VFL IMO.

[Demonland 72,178]

 

[rjay 24,919]

14 hours ago, Barney Rubble said:

If Viney is fit to play football, then he is fit to play AFL. 

 

 

9 hours ago, Demons11 said:

People would have thought that T Mac would be underdone but he has shown this is not the case. 

 

5 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Why anyone would want Viney to play in the VFL has got me stuffed

I think there is good reason to run Viney on limited minutes at Casey to get some match fitness.

Unlike Tommy, he hasn't played a competitive game since last season & may open himself up to soft tissue injury for example.

It's probably more likely we run him in at AFL level but there are good reasons why we might not despite the views expressed above.

[Demonland 72,178]

Initially I was in the camp to play Viney as soon as he could walk without assistance. However now given our next two matches I'm inclined to play him in the twos perhaps with limited game time as we don't need him to win these games per se. 

[SFebes 4,884]

They’ve been preparing Viney as well as McDonald for AFL, they’ve said it multiple times. Viney was running around weeks ago, would not be surprised to see him line v Gold Coast.

[beelzebub 23,364]

30 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Initially I was in the camp to play Viney as soon as he could walk without assistance. However now given our next two matches I'm inclined to play him in the twos perhaps with limited game time as we don't need him to win these games per se. 

Given the bull at a gate ideology of some of our FD ...whilst logic and tempered excitement should have him warming up at Casey... I'll bet London to a brick hell play the Suns.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

1 hour ago, SFebey said:

They’ve been preparing Viney as well as McDonald for AFL, they’ve said it multiple times. Viney was running around weeks ago, would not be surprised to see him line v Gold Coast.

Preparing a midfielder for AFL is very different to preparing a key position player.

That’s not even taking into account the fact that Tom Mac had much more of a pre-season than Viney, played the AFL X game and one JLT game. Given the fact that he’s the best runner at the club, it’s easy to see why Tom could come back in and have some sort of an impact. In fact, there wouldn’t be many players in the AFL that could have had the same impact as he did in his comeback game against Essendon.

Viney is a midfielder, was off-legs for much of the pre-season and doesn’t have the natural tank that Tom has. His position is also so much more demanding at AFL level.

He might be training with the main group, but there’s no way I see him playing AFL this week against a Gold Coast side that’s not much chop. He needs to build minutes at the lower level.

We’ve learnt once about bringing him back too early. There’s no way we make that mistake again.

[Deemania since 56 6,635]

On 5/7/2018 at 2:16 PM, Mazer Rackham said:

That clown would want to hope Viney doesnt't get up again.

I say keep him until the Carlton game. They will think they're a chance against us and seeing JV in and raring to go will give them second thoughts.

Just love the packaged intent that this could invoke - JV champing at the bit against Carlscum.

[SFebes 4,884]

7 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Preparing a midfielder for AFL is very different to preparing a key position player.

That’s not even taking into account the fact that Tom Mac had much more of a pre-season than Viney, played the AFL X game and one JLT game. Given the fact that he’s the best runner at the club, it’s easy to see why Tom could come back in and have some sort of an impact. In fact, there wouldn’t be many players in the AFL that could have had the same impact as he did in his comeback game against Essendon.

Viney is a midfielder, was off-legs for much of the pre-season and doesn’t have the natural tank that Tom has. His position is also so much more demanding at AFL level.

He might be training with the main group, but there’s no way I see him playing AFL this week against a Gold Coast side that’s not much chop. He needs to build minutes at the lower level.

We’ve learnt once about bringing him back too early. There’s no way we make that mistake again.

All good points and agree, we await. Wouldn't mind going to a Casey game to watch him actually

[DemonLad5 1,642]

IN: Viney, Salem

OUT: ANB, Hunt

Love Hunt but he's not producing the run, carry and drive we need from him. 

B: Hibberd - O.Mac - Jetta

HB: Lewis - Lever - Salem

C Tyson - Viney - Jones

HF: Petracca - Hogan - Spargo

FF: Fritsch - Weideman  - McDonald

FOLL: Gawn - Oliver - Brayshaw

INT: Melksham - Vince - Hannan - Harmes

Edited May 8, 2018 by DemonLad5

[SFebes 4,884]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-09/gawns-viney-warning-dont-rush-back-to-afl

[hells bells 2,023]

In: Viney, Salem

Out: ANB, Tyson

[Diamond_Jim 12,578]

If I was a wagering person I would back Jack V for the VFL this week.

There will be so much pressure on the medicos that I suspect no one would give an unqualified opinion.

Play 3/4 in the VFL is my bet.