Post Match Discussion - Round 7

[DEE fence 5,004]

loved winning when we were a $1.32 to win, was watching the live ladder, thought we might make 8th but didn't, thought St Kilda showed up today, however if you added up all the ifs and buts, when equalled for both sides, we were still clearly better. Yet again Petracca would have the Saints nashing their teeth. Oliver I love, but am starting to get frustrated he doesn't kick a little more, he would seriously open up other sides, with 10 more kicks per game. Hogan was strong all game, I actually struggle to think of a game he has played better, and his head space seemed much better when kicking for goal, was a Matthew Richardson (on a good day) type performance. Angus has found his mojo in a serious way, will steal Brownlow votes off Clarry this year.

My one whinge - ANB is not in the top ten, but he tries hard enough for mine, I really think there are some pretty miserable folks on here the way they chew him out, because you can't fault his effort, yes he needs to be better with his disposal, but the way he is described, you'd think he wasn't trying, and that is just not true. I can see him as being the first dropped to make way for Viney though, let's just be a little graceful for someone who is clearly a good servant of the club. Salem... hmm Harmes almost did enough to stay, Hannan looks like a threat, and both Vince and Lewis were very solid, Hunt was OK. I think Salem waits another week, then one of those just named).

As Beez said - good on Goodwin for learning the best way to play Leaver, has now played two good games in a row, he also showed why he will never be Tom McD that kick for goal was putrid.

Was wearing my Garmin today, HR didn't go past a 100 felt like we had it the whole way - that hasnt happened since i think bluetooth was invented

 

Edited May 6, 2018 by DaisyDeeciple
the 'nt'

[Red and Bluebeard 2,083]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Yeah I’ll be livid if we roll GC and Carlton by 40 points each to be 7-3. Positively fuming. 

Blow fuming, I will be seriously impressed if we can get three wins out of two games! ?

[Nasher 33,607]

4 minutes ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Blow fuming, I will be seriously impressed if we can get three wins out of two games! ?

Whoops ?

[loges 6,767]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

Fair points, layzie.  I get where some are coming from and, as I said earlier, if this had been a normal turnaround for us, and not a third game in 12 days, then I'd be more disappointed with the final term.  As it stands I think we should great maturity in ensuring we killed the contest before they got a sniff.  It's something we haven't done enough of in the past.

If we were playing, say, a Richmond or Hawthorn today then it would have been a very tough ask.  But we got the job done, and did it professionally, and that's something to be very happy with.

Wise even my missus who really doesn't understand the footy that well could see we Were stuffed in the last quarter. Too much negativity on here.

[beelzebub 23,313]

10 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

When I see you posting this sort of stuff it validates my own points on the matter.  Cheers.

Happy to provide jollies

I sense youre far better though at providing self satisfaction

[Bells 155]

1 hour ago, wizardinoz said:

Feels like a loss. Wasted opportunity to improve our percentage.

Not really sure how this team is ever going to please some of the "supporters"

[DEE fence 5,004]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Whoops ?

if wishes were fishes 

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Happy to provide jollies

I sense youre far better though at providing self satisfaction

Yeah yeah, blah blah blah.

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,222]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Yeah I’ll be livid if we roll GC and Carlton by 40 points each to be 7-3. Positively fuming. 

Point of order. 

If we roll GC and Carlton, we'll be 6 - 3.

Edited May 6, 2018 by bingers

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

7 minutes ago, Bells said:

Not really sure how this team is ever going to please some of the "supporters"

Pretty sure a flag

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, bingers said:

Point of order. 

If we roll CG and Carlton, we'll be 6 - 3.

I'd love to roll Cold Ghost...

[Devil In Disguise 2,278]

9 minutes ago, Bells said:

Not really sure how this team is ever going to please some of the "supporters"

Members

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

Might not have been among the very best but: Fritch on the wing, the skilled link-man we have desperately needed

[monoccular 17,413]

I was feeling disappointed but on reflection 3 games in 12 days understandably they ran out of steam a bit.

But if they don’t bury true GC and The Cheaters the next two rounds I will not be so forgiving.

 

Edited May 6, 2018 by monoccular

[Surfer Dee 210]

Great win. I thought we smashed them.

Tyson drives me crazy, he appears to play in slow motion sometimes and gets caught or misses the first option. So often turnovers can be traced back to him. Wouldn’t be surprised if he comes out for Viney.

Hogan was huge. Gawn is AA again. Clarry was phenomenal and maybe a few too many handballs but he’s probably the best handballer in the game so the issue with his handball/kick ratio is way overblown.

Gus is playing like a number 3 draft pick. Looks like a jet.

good times!

ps. Reasonably satisfying seeing the talent that St Kilda took struggling so much. I don’t wish poor fortune on any team but some teams just have to be worse than us.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

21 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

My one whinge - ANB is not in the top ten, but he tries hard enough for mine, I really think there are some pretty miserable folks on here the way they chew him out, because you can't fault his effort, yes he needs to be better with his disposal, but the way he is described, you'd think he wasn't trying, and that is just not true. I can see him as being the first dropped to make way for Viney though, let's just be a little graceful for someone who is clearly a good servant of the club. Salem... hmm Harmes almost did enough to stay, Hannan looks like a threat, and both Vince and Lewis were very solid, Hunt was OK. I think Salem waits another week, then one of those just named).

 

Agree ANB gives his all, but he is horribly out of form, really needs to go back to Casey and get his mojo back, as right now he looks bereft of confidence. If fit, I would select Salem over him every day of the week on the respective form they have shown this year.

[beelzebub 23,313]

4 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Might not have been among the very best but: Fritch on the wing, the skilled link-man we have desperately needed

It looks like possibly the thinking of some here that he's the making of a very good winger may have been expedited.  Too quick ? Its a question...he seems up for it. Very good skills. A real find ?

[monoccular 17,413]

Is anyone still questioning Petracca vs McCartin draft order?

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

Great win today

Now, let's hear all the 'if we were playing a top team.....' posts

@stevethemanjordan - you open the batting

Happy to provide some balance to the glossy, happy-go-lucky supporter posts Jumbo, thanks for the invitation. : )

Yeh, was a solid win with a number of positives to come out of the game. The main one imo being Brayshaw's game in the guts. He plays his best footy there and is of most value to the team there. Kicking and decision making needs some work, but I have faith that he's the kind of player that will eventually become a composed user, like Jones became later in his career.

Those who follow my commentary on Oscar will be happy to know that I thought he had another solid game. Couple of scary moments where for some odd reason he'll pick a loose ball up believing he has half a day to dispose of it. Inevitably, he is pinged for holding the ball. Enjoying that he's generally making genuine spoils at contests and is even taking a couple of quality intercept marks per game. Really good signs for the juvenile giraffe.

T-Mac's inclusion just changes the look of our side in such a positive way. Such a weapon to have and it takes pressure off Weed so that he can go about his business, play some AFL minutes and not feel like he has to be the 'main man'. 

Goody is playing fewer players through that midfield mix now which is also helping us big time both with Gawn's connection and continuity with the same group playing through there.

Negatives for me was our clear inability to bury them. Interesting that nobody has commented on the fact that St Kilda didn't have a bench for the last half of the last quarter and we didn't kick a goal from 12 minutes to go in the last. Yeh, I get that we're fatigued. But again it came down to inefficiency going inside 50 and highlighted again an area of weakness. 

Also, ANB and Tyson are still two players that we're 'carrying' imo. Both playing in positions they shouldn't be and irrespective of Dom's numbers, he's not doing any damage to the opposition whatsover. One difficult goal on an angle doesn't make up for the countless mis-kicks, turnovers and holding the balls he gets during a game. I really don't know what Goodwin and co see in him playing there.

Looking forward to next week and young Jack's return.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2018 by stevethemanjordan

[loges 6,767]

Concerned with Petracca's kicking, it's really dropped off this year especially his kicking for goal.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, loges said:

Concerned with Petracca's kicking, it's really dropped off this year especially his kicking for goal.

His set shot kicking for goal is bordering on the awful at the moment.  His field kicking is generally very good though, he was a little off today.

[DEE fence 5,004]

3 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Agree ANB gives his all, but he is horribly out of form, really needs to go back to Casey and get his mojo back, as right now he looks bereft of confidence. If fit, I would select Salem over him every day of the week on the respective form they have shown this year.

Yes, but ANB for Salem or Viney? isn't Viney due back next week? Who would you choose, I feel that Viney scares opposition players (i really like that) even if Salem is a better kick and has some mongrel of his own.

[jumbo returns 6,740]

1 minute ago, loges said:

Concerned with Petracca's kicking, it's really dropped off this year especially his kicking for goal.

Agree

But, my god, how strong are his hands?

He'll get his compass aligned soon

[What 18,810]

8 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I was feeling disappointed but on reflection 3 games in 12 days understandably they ran out of steam a bit.

 

 

Might be the same story against Gold Coast though,. as that will be 4 games in 17-18 days.  We just need to get the win up there any way we can,  nothing is ever guaranteed interstate and they are not terrible (3-4).

Thankfully we then have an 8 day break before we play Carltank.

Edited May 6, 2018 by Petraccattack

[John Crow Batty 8,862]

Two persistent problems. Contested marks and inside 50 efficiency.  Much improved today.

Edited May 6, 2018 by america de cali