What would you pay more money for to help the MFC further stabilize?

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Channel 7 is actually broadcasting 12 of our first 22 games FTA

I think all of us dees supporters should start up a Go Fund Me Page and encourage them to stick it up the AFL and Foxtel !

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7 hours ago, DaveyDee said:

The pledge per win is a well used idea - I would be interested to know how much it raises per round. Going back to the supporters time after time for me is not the answer - we need to find ways of getting non-MFC supporters to contribute. 

Please understand, this was a tongue in cheek comment

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8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is it your opinion that pokie machines owned by AFL clubs are more "evil" than any other pokie machines? 

No. As you were not aware of the report was the reason I posted it. I made no comment about its content. K

8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If you are logical and agree that this is a ridiculous assertion then it raises a few questions, namely who is behind this "study" and what is their agenda?

The agenda as I said from post 1 is remove poker machines from Victorian AFL clubs, hence why we need to find alternative sources of income

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13 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

No. As you were not aware of the report was the reason I posted it. I made no comment about its content. K

The agenda as I said from post 1 is remove poker machines from Victorian AFL clubs, hence why we need to find alternative sources of income

Maybe 2/3 of the staff that are employed within the walls of AFL House could be cut and the $Millions saved could then be distributed to the clubs  

would equal about $200 Million...

 

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Maybe 2/3 of the staff that are employed within the walls of AFL House could be cut and the $Millions saved could then be distributed to the clubs  

would equal about $200 Million...

 

Maybe that’s a question you need to direct to our AFL recommend CEO Peter Jackson & our AFL approved Board of Directors - best of luck - you are laughable. It’s quite clear you have no understanding of how your own club is run. 

Unlike you I support our current MFC administration & the AFL

 

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8 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

Maybe that’s a question you need to direct to our AFL recommend CEO Peter Jackson & our AFL approved Board of Directors - best of luck - you are laughable. It’s quite clear you have no understanding of how your own club is run. 

Unlike you I support our current MFC administration & the AFL

 

Perer Jackson has got nothing to do with it, stop mentioning his name. 

I have no time for the AFL. They are now too big for themselves. 

The Building of Docklands Stadium, the handling of the Essendrug Saga and the farce that is the $Billion Broadcast deals is part of my miss trust. 

I have no care as to what your views are Dr. Who

you are on the inside...

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11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Perer Jackson has got nothing to do with it, stop mentioning his name. 

I have no time for the AFL. They are now too big for themselves. 

The Building of Docklands Stadium, the handling of the Essendrug Saga and the farce that is the $Billion Broadcast deals is part of my miss trust. 

I have no care as to what your views are Dr. Who

you are on the inside...

Hahaha - interesting. 

Did the AFL “recommend” Peter Jackson our CEO? 

Did the AFL “loan” us 1 million dollar plus for the MFC to survive? 

Did the AFL approve our Board of Directors?

Now how does the future of of playing stocks look like - very positive if you ask me

Oh but that doesn’t suit you - you just want to pick fights with the AFL and argue with our current CEO & Board of Directors. 

Im happy to look for alternative revenue streams 

You need to toddle off and talk about the important issues like our clash guersey, who we play and where we play them, Jack Watts etc etc etc

Unlike you I don’t let personal issues get in the way of my support for the MFC. I’m happy with the AFL, I’m happy with our CEO and board of Directors, hell I will support whoever we play at full-back full forward or any position on the ground - I will even support our boot stuffer.

You on the other hand - we’ll its all about your personal issues - best of luck with that. 

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3 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

Hahaha - interesting. 

Did the AFL “recommend” Peter Jackson our CEO? 

Did the AFL “loan” us 1 million dollar plus for the MFC to survive? 

Did the AFL approve our Board of Directors?

Now how does the future of of playing stocks look like - very positive if you ask me

Oh but that doesn’t suit you - you just want to pick fights with the AFL and argue with our current CEO & Board of Directors. 

Im happy to look for alternative revenue streams 

You need to toddle off and talk about the important issues like our clash guersey, who we play and where we play them, Jack Watts etc etc etc

Unlike you I don’t let personal issues get in the way of my support for the MFC. I’m happy with the AFL, I’m happy with our CEO and board of Directors, hell I will support whoever we play at full-back full forward or any position on the ground - I will even support our boot stuffer.

You on the other hand - we’ll its all about your personal issues - best of luck with that. 

Have you finished yet. You keep repeating yourself for months now. 

We all know you are happy being bent over, i prefer to stand up. 

Haha “the AFL lent us a $1 million” does that now explain why we are given such a great draw to grow the club each year?

the 2018 draw for the MFC in business terms is an absolute nightmare. 

No, it’s time for you to toddle off sunshine. 

Yes men can be very dangerous. 

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6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Have you finished yet. You keep repeating yourself for months now. 

We all know you are happy being bent over, i prefer to stand up. 

Haha “the AFL lent us a $1 million” does that now explain why we are given such a great draw to grow the club each year?

the 2018 draw for the MFC in business terms is an absolute nightmare. 

No, it’s time for you to toddle off sunshine. 

Yes men can be very dangerous. 

with Melbourne chief executive Peter Jackson calling it “a good fixture from both a football and supporters’ perspective”.

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-10-31/melbournes-2018-fixture-announced

You are laughable - again you want to pick fights withour CEO 

You have no idea how you own club is run - hahaha

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9 hours ago, DaveyDee said:

No. As you were not aware of the report was the reason I posted it. I made no comment about its content. K

The agenda as I said from post 1 is remove poker machines from Victorian AFL clubs, hence why we need to find alternative sources of income

So the AFL is using Monash to provide studies that help them convince/coerce clubs to remove pokies?

Edited March 4, 2018 by Dr. Gonzo

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52 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

with Melbourne chief executive Peter Jackson calling it “a good fixture from both a football and supporters’ perspective”.

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-10-31/melbournes-2018-fixture-announced

You are laughable - again you want to pick fights withour CEO 

You have no idea how you own club is run - hahaha

You talk about AFL leans us 1 million, at the same time they gave us 1 million they gave port Adelaide 9 million over 3 years, I am sick of people bring that 1 million up when other clubs have been given 9 times more.

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56 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

with Melbourne chief executive Peter Jackson calling it “a good fixture from both a football and supporters’ perspective”.

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-10-31/melbournes-2018-fixture-announced

You are laughable - again you want to pick fights withour CEO 

You have no idea how you own club is run - hahaha

Go away you little pest. 

You believe any media spin fed to you

Dr Who.... a persistent Troll

 

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23 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

So the AFL is using Monash to provide studies that help them convince/coerce clubs to remove pokies?

wonder if they will get monash to do a study on the impact of sports betting

......oh, wait a minute

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39 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

So the AFL is using Monash to provide studies that help them convince/coerce clubs to remove pokies?

That would be your conclusion I prefer to look for ways to find alternative revenue streams. It would not worry me if they stay or go. 

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34 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

You talk about AFL leans us 1 million, at the same time they gave us 1 million they gave port Adelaide 9 million over 3 years, I am sick of people bring that 1 million up when other clubs have been given 9 times more.

Again that’s a topic you would have to discuss with our AFL recommend CEO ... the AFL’ s & SANFL agreement is very complicated and not the idea of the thread

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1 hour ago, DaveyDee said:

with Melbourne chief executive Peter Jackson calling it “a good fixture from both a football and supporters’ perspective”.

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-10-31/melbournes-2018-fixture-announced

You are laughable - again you want to pick fights withour CEO 

You have no idea how you own club is run - hahaha

As if the CEO would look down the Barrel of the Camera and tell prospective members that the fixture is a disaster. 

(But it is when you break it down..)

nice try Dr Who

Lift your game son, Gill is marking you out of 10 tomorrow morning

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3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

wonder if they will get monash to do a study on the impact of sports betting

......oh, wait a minute

That’s actually not a bad idea - I worked/employed a Professor at Swinburne University for years on sports betting analysis sadly these days Professor Clark is retired but he was a huge fan of sports betting. 

Not all forms of gambling are the same the AFL and educational institutions understand that.  

Maybe you create some sort of sellable report discussing - How a mug and their money are easily parted. However, there will be large amounts of mathematical information in it - so tough reading for the English students - but such is life. 

Edited March 4, 2018 by DaveyDee

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He just won’t stop.....

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5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He just won’t stop.....

i once had an old vinyl record with a defective track. it just went on and on and on

i finally relocated it to the circular file

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43 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i once had an old vinyl record with a defective track. it just went on and on and on

i finally relocated it to the circular file

Sports Betting is all good says Dr Who’s Uni Professor, but Pokies are bad and must be eradicated. Even though Poker Machines are legal...

 

m’kay

 

So what i would like to know is how you replace $Million revenue streams legally so that 8-9 Clubs can continue to be competitive. 

 

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4 hours ago, DaveyDee said:

That would be your conclusion I prefer to look for ways to find alternative revenue streams. It would not worry me if they stay or go. 

Those things aren't mutually exclusive. You want to just accept any old agenda pushed by the AFL I'm more inclined to actually question the agendas, the motives and the personal interests of those peddling them. When you get studies from educational institutions pushing an AFL agenda you've got to wonder what's going on here. It is akin to Monash releasing a study on the health dangers of Hungry Jack's and never mentioning McDonald's.

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Sports Betting is all good says Dr Who’s Uni Professor, but Pokies are bad and must be eradicated. Even though Poker Machines are legal...

 

m’kay

 

So what i would like to know is how you replace $Million revenue streams legally so that 8-9 Clubs can continue to be competitive. 

 

No no no, Pokies aren't bad - AFL club-owned Pokies are bad.

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55 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

No no no, Pokies aren't bad - AFL club-owned Pokies are bad.

Oh of course. I missed that crucial point Dr G...

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9 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

 When you get studies from educational institutions pushing an AFL agenda you've got to wonder what's going on here. 

If you are implying Monash University are "agenda pushers" and clearly discrediting their reputation - That is a comment you need to direct towards The Chazz - who bumped the thread.

But it is an interesting twist in your line of discussion - first you where of the opinion that the mere existence of a report was "laughable" now you are discrediting the institutions themselves. 

I'm personally more than comfortable with our association with Educational Institutions - as I said to The Chazz. 

 

9 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

No no no, Pokies aren't bad - AFL club-owned Pokies are bad.

Finally, now its clear what is up for discussion. Hopefully we can get back on topic and find ways to deliver alternative revenue streams. Sorry, to repeat myself, I dont care if they stay or go. 

Look forward to reading your ideas on growing our revenue streams. 

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On 03/03/2018 at 12:53 AM, DaveyDee said:

Here are the views of Monash University

https://www.monash.edu/news/articles/link-revealed-between-afl-controlled-pokies-and-rise-in-family-violence

Again as I said looks clear cut now the pressure is going onto the Victorian AFL clubs - but I said that in the first post in the thread. It’s now when not if 

Sounds like a few Victorian clubs have broke ranks and agreed to get out of them. 

Collingwood, Tigers, Cats & Bulldogs have agreed in principle to get rid of them.

Hawks, Blues & MFC have been isolated - bye bye poker machines

 

The author of the Monash study is a well-known anti-pokies advocate, Charles Livingstone. He has linked family violence with AFL pokies venues solely on the basis that there are rates of higher family violence recorded in the same locations as there are AFL pokies venues. There is no causality in his assessment - just linking one set of numbers with another with no evidence showing there is a link between the two. (It's very poor research and I'm amazed Monash Uni has published it.) 

I suspect his article is an opportunistic attack through an opening made by the Chairman of the AFL Commission who has made his distaste for poker machines very public.