Gaffs stats, 2017 from AFL Tables. Would love to have him in Red & Blue

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/A/Andrew_Gaff.html

Covers ground, gets outside (averages most uncontested possies in the league), and kicks it 18 times a game.

Neat left foot too. He would complement our hard nosed midfield.

He really is the exact type of player we require short of a star of the game of course (which every couple 'needs').

1 hour ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Gaffs stats, 2017 from AFL Tables. Would love to have him in Red & Blue

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/A/Andrew_Gaff.html

I love how we get so picky when we've been banging on all year about our lack of outside run and distribution. Here is a guy that offers precisely that.

We were never going to get Kelly, so put that one in the bin. We know that Kelly would compliment any midfield perfectly and is just what we lack, blah, blah, blah. But he's not in the picture. So in turning our attention to a realistic alternative, Gaff really does fit the bill nicely (yes, I do believe Gaff is gettable now that the Eagles' ball winners are all retiring, they'll look to rebuild).

Let's really think about this. Gaff is a nice kick, he runs all day, he gets to good positions as a result and would suit our game style to a tee. You only have to look at how integral Hibberd and Hunt's run became to our play this year to know Gaff's strengths are perfect for our team. He's also a far better wing option than the aging and much slower Lewis.

And let me ask you this. Does Isaac Smith win his own ball? Does Lewis Jetta win his own ball? Does Brad Hill win his own ball? Gaff is in exactly the same category and would compliment Viney, Oliver, Tyson, Petracca and Salem beautifully.

20 minutes ago, A F said:

And let me ask you this. Does Isaac Smith win his own ball? Does Lewis Jetta win his own ball? Does Brad Hill win his own ball? Gaff is in exactly the same category and would compliment Viney, Oliver, Tyson, Petracca and Salem beautifully.

Problem is, all 3 are among the first go missing when things get tough and Gaff is similar. And of the 5 of ours you've listed, i'd only have 2 as one's you could count on to at least try and do something to change the course of a match (2 guesses who!)

21 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Problem is, all 3 are among the first go missing when things get tough and Gaff is similar. And of the 5 of ours you've listed, i'd only have 2 as one's you could count on to at least try and do something to change the course of a match (2 guesses who!)

2 out of 5 ain't bad. How many in Hawthorn's dynasty did they have in the midfield that could change things? 2? 3 maybe? I fail to see how Gaff being this sort of player is ultimately bad. Smith, Jetta and Hill have all won multiple premierships between them...

57 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Problem is, all 3 are among the first go missing when things get tough and Gaff is similar. And of the 5 of ours you've listed, i'd only have 2 as one's you could count on to at least try and do something to change the course of a match (2 guesses who!)

If you're depending on your outside runners to keep you in the game "when the going gets tough", you're in big big trouble. Cos if you're down because you're getting smashed on the inside, even the best outside runners in the history of the game (whoever they were) ain't gonna save you.

In fact, this comment (and the many others like it) encapsulates my major reservation about getting Gaff or someone like him. Over the past 10 years we've burned any potential outside runners we've had, because we are incapable of using their biggest assets so we try to turn them into Jack Viney. If we got somebody with Gaff's combination of high-level aerobic running plus genuine speed, as well as good disposal, we'd only complain because he doesn't win contested ball at the same time.

We always seem happier with one-paced contested-ball mids than anybody with outside run or the ability to find space or great disposal skill. We really devalue uncontested-ball skills, then wonder why we keep turning it over.

The missing link.

Get him Dees!

 

I don't want an outside mid. 

A player who can get his own ball, has a bit of leg speed & hits a target will do just fine.

8 hours ago, Akum said:

If you're depending on your outside runners to keep you in the game "when the going gets tough", you're in big big trouble. Cos if you're down because you're getting smashed on the inside, even the best outside runners in the history of the game (whoever they were) ain't gonna save you.

In fact, this comment (and the many others like it) encapsulates my major reservation about getting Gaff or someone like him. Over the past 10 years we've burned any potential outside runners we've had, because we are incapable of using their biggest assets so we try to turn them into Jack Viney. If we got somebody with Gaff's combination of high-level aerobic running plus genuine speed, as well as good disposal, we'd only complain because he doesn't win contested ball at the same time.

We always seem happier with one-paced contested-ball mids than anybody with outside run or the ability to find space or great disposal skill. We really devalue uncontested-ball skills, then wonder why we keep turning it over.

Many on Demonland wouldn't have given Craig Bradley a game, because he didn't get contested ball. 

 

22 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Agreed.  Plus (career averages):

- Doesn't defend nor put pressure on the ball carrier:

• 1% things (.86 per game). 
• tackles  (1.8 per game).
• contested possessions ( 6 of 25 per game).

- Doesn't help the team score:

• i50 (3.6 per game).
• goals (.35 per game). 
• goal assists (.52 per game)
• clearances (2 per game)

- Doesn't show signs of being able to defend up forward or in the mid.

- Hasn't impacted in finals. 

In summary, he is not an impact player either offensively nor defensively. 

Admittedly, he had a good year when he made AA in 2015 but hasn't shown a lot since. 

I know stats aren't everything but over a long period they do tell a story.  Based on his stats and DL's penchant for aggressive, go in hard players, he would become the new DL whipping boy!

Being able to run and once a Dees supporter isn't enough to gain my vote.

I posted it a while back, but a lot of Eagles fans dont rate him, saying he is least damaging 30 posession player they have ever seen. Above stats confirms

6 hours ago, rjay said:

I don't want an outside mid. 

A player who can get his own ball, has a bit of leg speed & hits a target will do just fine.

We actually need outside running players with kicking . 

Are there any articles/info out there saying he is actually interested in a trade back to Melbourne? They are losing Priddis and Mitchell this year, so I doubt they'd be keen to lose all of their midfield in one year...

On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 6:12 PM, Moonshadow said:

Anyone speak Plunket able to translate this?

Actually, forget it...

Plunketts at Avenel used to make a terrific Shiraz.

 

11 hours ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Are there any articles/info out there saying he is actually interested in a trade back to Melbourne? They are losing Priddis and Mitchell this year, so I doubt they'd be keen to lose all of their midfield in one year...

Mate, it's the silly season. This is no time for facts.

18 hours ago, rjay said:

I don't want an outside mid. 

A player who can get his own ball, has a bit of leg speed & hits a target will do just fine.

Who and for what?

I hear Josh Kelly is keen on a move to the Dees 

19 hours ago, rjay said:

I don't want an outside mid. 

A player who can get his own ball, has a bit of leg speed & hits a target will do just fine.

Yeah, fair enough.

It's just that "outside mid" is a lot easier to say.

11 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I hear Josh Kelly is keen on a move to the Dees 

It's a back loaded contract, ie the club pays him 500k under Norfs offer because he so desperately wants to play with his draft mates. And his draft mates all pool together to pay him back 500k with their own money. 

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Plunketts at Avenel used to make a terrific Shiraz.

 

Now called Fowles, drove past there on the weekend, was trying to remember what it was once called: thank you Bitter.

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Plunketts at Avenel used to make a terrific Shiraz.

 

Sam still does

13 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Sam still does

'Ladies who shoot their lunch' is both well named and a good wine

14 hours ago, beelzebub said:

We actually need outside running players with kicking . 

just not ones like JW. Those who will not fight hard for the ball & win own ball need not apply.

 

I don't know how to link a Facebook post but Brad Hardie has suggested in/via the WCE supporters page that the Eagles offload Gaff to St Kilda and expect pick 7 or 8 and Blake Acres in return.

 

16 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I don't know how to link a Facebook post but Brad Hardie has suggested in/via the WCE supporters page that the Eagles offload Gaff to St Kilda and expect pick 7 or 8 and Blake Acres in return.

 

Brad Hardie is trippin! 

Gaff is not worth a top 10 pick in my book. More so late first round. If he kicked 25+ goals a season. He would be worthy of a pick around 10.

Tom Mitchell swap for Pick 14 is a guide. Tom is a much better player and has more influence on the outcome of a game.

If the Dees were to trade for Gaff. 

OUT - Pick 17 (Lever trade) & Kent

IN - Gaff & Pick 46

The Drums are beating!!

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/west-coast-eagles-andrew-gaff-and-jack-darling-should-be-traded-according-to-brownlow-medallist-brad-hardie/news-story/82c4af0ce466e64ca16bef10aa91e1a1