43 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Don't think it matters much anymore. Two players who have major knee operations featuring in possible trades.

Playing groups in old, old clubs playing like sixteen year olds, after a game that would make any other side prostate on the ground. Another team who have won one final in a thousand years with a Sheedy type snipability, as Flag be all to end all favorite.

Not forgetting the new TEN strikes and your out policy that comes in next season.

And still the MEDIA haven't got the guts to do anything....

Sorry....what the hell are you talking about willmoy?? Is this a riddle?

There is NO chance we would trade Maxy

1 minute ago, Hell Bent said:

Sorry....what the hell are you talking about willmoy?? Is this a riddle?

it IS 'that' time of year  

7 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

Nothing is certain in football when it comes to trading. Hogan going home would depend primarily on if he wants to be traded back to WA. if he does the club will do what they can to extract what value they can out of the deal. There are very very few footballers on our list that are untouchable.

there is an undeniable truth to this.  Palatable ? No   Possible ? Who ever knows, but NOT impossible

49 minutes ago, Hell Bent said:

Sorry....what the hell are you talking about willmoy?? Is this a riddle?

Don't really know, just putting a few thoughts out there about how and where Footy is going and my doubts about how different clubs seem to able , for no NORMAL reason, arise from the depths of old age, and sub par bog standard. OK 

I do worry about the longevity of Gawn both with his knees and with his type of ruckman being made redundant by rules to protect more flexible players that will run off him and make him look slow and one dimensional...

It would be cold blooded if we move him on though...

1 minute ago, willmoy said:

Don't really know, just putting a few thoughts out there about how and where Footy is going and my doubts about how different clubs seem to able , for no NORMAL reason, arise from the depths of old age, and sub par bog standard. OK 

Um, was that an attempt at clarification? If so consider me still confused. You are not channeling deeluded by any chance?

1 hour ago, juzzk1d said:

Just heard from my old man who deals with a few clients who are close to Melbourne officials,  that Gawn could be on the move as we are looking to use him to secure Lever and retain our top picks to then get Gaff. They believe with the way the game is evolving that having that extra runner in the midfield in the form of Watts / Pedo / Tmac rotating in ruck we are less reliable on just winning hit outs and become more unpredictable.

Very complex deal, up to 4 clubs involved something along the lines of Gawn to GWS, their 1st rounder + 2nd rounder to Carlton, Gibbs to Adelaide, Lever to Melbourne. Our pick 10 for Gaff and looking to land another experienced player through free agency from Geelong, that's all I know (starting to think it's Motlop, wants a fresh start and would compliment as another outside runner and also to help support Jeffy and look to improve his forward line pressure)

Don't shoot the messenger. Cheers.

If you don't want to be shut down, then i suggest you don't post the most fanciful thing I have ever heard.  Completely rubbish 

18 hours ago, SFebey said:

Some reports that Hogan wants to go home and a 3 way trade is being negotiated by Fremantle, Dees and Adelaide which would see -

Fremantle get Hogan

Adelaide get pick 5

Dees get Lever

As I've said weeks ago, it wold not surprise me to see Hogan go home after the year the poor kid has had. But I don't believe this report is true, I guess we will watch this space. If that were to happen I'd want Adelaide's pick 16 in exchange also.

If Hogan wanted to go home.  I'd be wanting Lever & the Crows P17.

Or Hogan & P27 to Freo, for Freo's P5 & Lachie Neale.

Or Hogan & P27 to Freo.  >  Lachie Neale & P27 to Crows. >  Lever P17 & P35 to Demons.

 

God I hate this time of year. So much crap talk.

understatement post of the week, chook

2 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

God I hate this time of year. So much crap talk.

 

Gawn is one who I would trade and get maximum value at his peak (like a share). Not sure how his knees are going to hold up but interestingly our form dropped off after his return, unsure why? The mobile ruckmen of the comp quite often dominate him also.

Just now, SFebey said:

Gawn is one who I would trade and get maximum value at his peak (like a share). Not sure how his knees are going to hold up but interestingly our form dropped off after his return, unsure why? The mobile ruckmen of the comp quite often dominate him also.

he didn't seem fully fit or nqr after he came back from hammy. was he carrying an injury?

3 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Gawn is one who I would trade and get maximum value at his peak (like a share). Not sure how his knees are going to hold up but interestingly our form dropped off after his return, unsure why? The mobile ruckmen of the comp quite often dominate him also.

Interesting .... his 2017 form was not that great and one has to wonder if 2016 is his norm or an aberration.

If we had a reasonable replacement I could be persuaded but as we haven't it is but a thought point.

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

he didn't seem fully fit or nqr after he came back from hammy. was he carrying an injury?

Definitely looked that way didn't it DC, he was going to contests but loping along.

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Interesting .... his 2017 form was not that great and one has to wonder if 2016 is his norm or an aberration.

If we had a reasonable replacement I could be persuaded but as we haven't it is but a thought point.

As silly as this sounds, I think Watts' best position is ruck, he plays well there when he's put there. Probably a case of he cant hide and has to work, hence getting the best out of him.

1 minute ago, SFebey said:

As silly as this sounds, I think Watts' best position is ruck, he plays well there when he's put there. Probably a case of he cant hide and has to work, hence getting the best out of him.

Very much agree that he should be played in the mid field.

I remember when Neeld played him in the ruck and people were amazed. Anything that gets him into the thick of the game.

One problem, GWS DO NOT have a first round pick. They lost it due to Whitfield drug issue and their 2nd round pick will be in the 30's. They are not trading anyone out yet who would draw a first rounder so dont think they have the collateral to go after Max. In addition any points they need for academy players is hindered by the loss of points.

I think it's obvious how good Gawn can be. In his first uninterrupted preseason he was AA and by some margin. Some of his tap work in that year to our mids was sublime and a distinct advantage. 

Even talk of trading him = FMD.

 

2 minutes ago, Older demon said:

One problem, GWS DO NOT have a first round pick. They lost it due to Whitfield drug issue and their 2nd round pick will be in the 30's. They are not trading anyone out yet who would draw a first rounder so dont think they have the collateral to go after Max. In addition any points they need for academy players is hindered by the loss of points.

Devon Smith may get them a first rounder

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

I think it's obvious how good Gawn can be. In his first uninterrupted preseason he was AA and by some margin. Some of his tap work in that year to our mids was sublime and a distinct advantage. 

Even talk of trading him = FMD.

 

Mr Tyson can be as aggrieved as he is above when Gawn taps to red and blue jumpers at a greater clip than he does now...

If we trade Gawn and have no real ruck I'll cry like that Richmond supporter on talkback a couple of years ago when GWS were pounding them by 120pts at 3/4 time

Sheer madness IMO.

If Max was an average ruck and mark I'd be a little more receptive. But last year showed he's in the best 2 or 3 in the league. One of our few players that can change the course of a game.

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Devon Smith may get them a first rounder

Geelongs don't have a first rounder either. Their earlist pic is currently pic 20 and assuming Smith wants to return to Geelong as rumoured

 

Edited September 18, 20177 yr by Older demon

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

If we trade Gawn and have no real ruck I'll cry like that Richmond supporter on talkback a couple of years ago when GWS were pounding them by 120pts at 3/4 time

Sheer madness IMO.

If Max was an average ruck and mark I'd be a little more receptive. But last year showed he's in the best 2 or 3 in the league. One of our few players that can change the course of a game.

don't get sucked in moonie. troll post.

1 minute ago, rpfc said:

Mr Tyson can be as aggrieved as he is above when Gawn taps to red and blue jumpers at a greater clip than he does now...

Missing 10 games of footy doesn't help foster continuity.

a change of technique may be all he needs but I agree that the oppo seemed to be getting better service when he returned from injury.