19 hours ago, Farmer said:

Am I alone in expressing concern about the club's treatment of poor Dean Kent last night?About half an hour after his injury, we saw him in the changing room with his arm in a sling. Someone was nearby but didn't appear to be assisting or comforting him. I've had a couple of bad orthopaedic disasters. I could see that he was in great pain, which leads into uncontrollable shock, and this appeared to be his fate last night. He was very pale.

I was surprised that, with the pain he was in, he had not been transferred to hospital for the best possible pain management. Had the game been in Melbourne I believe this would have happened. Perhaps there was no-one to coordinate this until the match was over? If games in Darwin lead to sub standard care I am even more opposed to them.

 

1 hour ago, yoSMOKIE said:

Reading stuff like this is so infuriating. You've essentially just called out Melbourne's medical staff as being negligent based on a few seconds of TV coverage. Who are you exactly to make such a statement? Seems to me that people like you simply like the sound of their own voice.

 

1 hour ago, Deespicable said:

Thanks keyboard warrior!

Firstly Farmer is not a regular here so your last assessment of him is exactly what you are complaining about - who are you to make a statement about Farmer and he could be Jeffy in real life for all we know and your comment could be racist!

Holy fark I have read some dumb stuff on this website but this almost takes the cake.

You really should see someone about your PC disease.

 

48 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

Mate, you are still not getting it - you are playing the man and not the ball.

There's nothing wrong with the guy that set up the thread - it takes courage and conviction to do so and he's entitled to his opinion and that is the essence of Demonland.

The fact that you and I are aware that there were probably heaps of other factors in it is irrelevant to his entitlement ... and yours.

But remember it's a forum and try and avoid bagging the author of the thread.

There is literally no ball to play here. It is a thread based off zero facts and evidence, and is clearly just a frustrated fan throwing unnecessary shade at our medical staff after a disappointing loss.

 

P.s Authoring a thread criticising Melbourne's medical staff behind an anonymous online moniker is courageous is it? I suppose you think every kid in a running race should get a ribbon, even if they come last right?

47 minutes ago, yoSMOKIE said:

There is literally no ball to play here. It is a thread based off zero facts and evidence, and is clearly just a frustrated fan throwing unnecessary shade at our medical staff after a disappointing loss.

 

P.s Authoring a thread criticising Melbourne's medical staff behind an anonymous online moniker is courageous is it? I suppose you think every kid in a running race should get a ribbon, even if they come last right?

Ok here's a challenge to you Smokie.

Start a thread on a topic about the Demons, voice your opinions on it and then see if people are interested in it.

I would have thought the fact that so many of us have read this thread already means it was a good topic.

And whilst a lot of us disagree with his summation, it's still a very worthy topic. The image of Kent all alone in a room having a Nicky Riewoldt was a lasting one from the game for most of us along with Sloaney staggering like a drunk and telling his medical staff to f.. off.

1 minute ago, Deespicable said:

Ok here's a challenge to you Smokie.

Start a thread on a topic about the Demons, voice your opinions on it and then see if people are interested in it.

I would have thought the fact that so many of us have read this thread already means it was a good topic.

And whilst a lot of us disagree with his summation, it's still a very worthy topic. The image of Kent all alone in a room having a Nicky Riewoldt was a lasting one from the game for most of us along with Sloaney staggering like a drunk and telling his medical staff to f.. off.

 

Once I feel I have something meaningful to bring up in conversation, that is without uneducated assertions, ridiculous assumptions and baseless finger pointing at the professionals that run our footy team - I surely will start a thread Deespicable.

 

And trust me, if the title wasn't so ambiguous, this would not have been read anywhere near as much as it has.

Get well soon Dean

a real shame this injury happened, he was warming up for a good one. 

We missed him up forward. 

 

17 hours ago, John Dee said:

Flying back with broken bones is quite common. My daughter once broke her foot in London and had to fly back to get it treated here rather than run the gauntlet of the public health system in the UK. The fact that we could get her treated here under our system was not the main issue, the real problem is that you are not allowed to travel on planes for some time after you have plaster attached.

That would have been terrible. How did you manage to get her home? she would have been in so much pain.

I didn't know that you could not fly after having plaster, does it have something to do with pressure of the plane?

Hope your daughter was ok after all that? Would put you off flying that's for sure.

I did the same thing once. It was actually getting the ball off the roof and I fell off the ladder. The pain is F%$kin bad. 

 

50 minutes ago, deebug said:

That would have been terrible. How did you manage to get her home? she would have been in so much pain.

I didn't know that you could not fly after having plaster, does it have something to do with pressure of the plane?

Hope your daughter was ok after all that? Would put you off flying that's for sure.

I've still got the X-Rays from Dick Whittington Hospital. Travel Insurance came through and got her onto the earliest QANTUS flight they could. The hospital put her into a temporary cast with a big split down the middle. This allowed her to fly, as it allowed expansion of the foot; mostly due to the lower air pressure.

When she got home she got a monstrous screw and a heap of wire in the foot, which then went into a moonboot. She was not allowed to put any pressure on it for three months. The doctor said that, if she followed instructions, she would make a 100% recovery, and she did.

She has gone back to London again. She will probably be home in a couple of years and she can come to the footy with me again.

 

The waiting time at Darwin Hospital is atrocious, especially on a Saturday night. And you have to pay for your own parking. Quicker to fly Dean to Melbourne for treatment and save the hassle of searching Goodie's glove-box for coins to feed the meter. Club made the right call.

1 hour ago, John Dee said:

I've still got the X-Rays from Dick Whittington Hospital. Travel Insurance came through and got her onto the earliest QANTUS flight they could. The hospital put her into a temporary cast with a big split down the middle. This allowed her to fly, as it allowed expansion of the foot; mostly due to the lower air pressure.

When she got home she got a monstrous screw and a heap of wire in the foot, which then went into a moonboot. She was not allowed to put any pressure on it for three months. The doctor said that, if she followed instructions, she would make a 100% recovery, and she did.

She has gone back to London again. She will probably be home in a couple of years and she can come to the footy with me again.

 

Wow, she is one strong and brave woman, sounds like a very bad break, glad she is ok, it would have been stressful going through something like that in your own country, little alone over seas, 

Tell her book her flight home because the next few years we will be winning that flag,so you both can be there together to watch it.

2 hours ago, John Dee said:

I've still got the X-Rays from Dick Whittington Hospital. Travel Insurance came through and got her onto the earliest QANTUS flight they could. The hospital put her into a temporary cast with a big split down the middle. This allowed her to fly, as it allowed expansion of the foot; mostly due to the lower air pressure.

When she got home she got a monstrous screw and a heap of wire in the foot, which then went into a moonboot. She was not allowed to put any pressure on it for three months. The doctor said that, if she followed instructions, she would make a 100% recovery, and she did.

She has gone back to London again. She will probably be home in a couple of years and she can come to the footy with me again.

 

Is that the Dick Whittington hospital in Archway near the bottom of Highgate Hill? I lived walking distance from there close to Archway tube station in the mid 70's. I even spent a night there.

3 pages in and not a single photo of the shot in question?

On 7/16/2017 at 11:19 PM, RalphiusMaximus said:

It didn't look great, but remember that what we saw was a few seconds during which he was sitting alone.  We don't know what the circumstances were.  Maybe he has asked to be left alone for a while.  Maybe they'd given him a huge dose of painkillers and he was stoned off his head.  Maybe the doc had stepped out to grab him a blanket.  The reality is that we will probably never know what the situation was at that moment.  All we have to go on is an isolated bit of footage. 

I reckon channel 7 called away the guys supporting him for a quick moment to get that shot  

Just moments later when they showed him again you could see people behind him. And the shots were obviously from different times because I believe one of them he had a sling and the other he didn't...

 

I'm tipping he was in extra pain at the thought of his comeback being over... Or maybe he is like me and 2 shots of morphine didn't do anything to stop the pain (not great when you have a kidney stone)

19 hours ago, yoSMOKIE said:

 

Grow up mate, me questioning a pointless post does not make me a "keyboard warrior". In fact if anyone's a keyboard warrior its the armchair physician Farmer, who's differential diagnosis of negligence by Medical staff was brilliantly formulated by seconds of dressing room footage of Kent looking sad. Are we sure Farmer isn't actually Dr Gregory House M.D?

 

Really will hesitate before posting again. Can't believe the personal vitriol this topic has provoked.

im signing off on this topic, but before I do so, at a gathering involving a number of doctors yesterday, several of whom had seen the footage, a unanimous view was expressed that his arm should have been supported not merely by a sling, but also by a cushion or pillow. Far from suggesting negligence, what I was querying in my original post was whether in Darwin resources available to medical staff are as adequate as in Melbourne.

33 minutes ago, Farmer said:

im signing off on this topic...

Great, now you can answer my question in the "Critiquing the content not the person" thread.

Has anyone had any update on Dean's injury?

Was it his first shoulder dislocation?  If so could he be back in a few weeks, maybe?   (I know Joel Smith missed a lot longer, but he was being handled with kid gloves due to his youth and future prospects.  Dean is fighting for a place on the list so may push earlier)

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Has anyone had any update on Dean's injury?

Was it his first shoulder dislocation?  If so could he be back in a few weeks, maybe?   (I know Joel Smith missed a lot longer, but he was being handled with kid gloves due to his youth and future prospects.  Dean is fighting for a place on the list so may push earlier)

I think Smith had surgery, which ruled him out for longer.  If it was a simple sublux then maybe a few weeks and buckets of strapping.  Lets see what Misson says.  Interesting no follow up in the media at all (I suppose he ain't dangerfield)

5 hours ago, Farmer said:

 . . . a unanimous view was expressed that his arm should have been supported not merely by a sling, but also by a cushion or pillow. Far from suggesting negligence, what I was querying in my original post was whether in Darwin resources available to medical staff are as adequate as in Melbourne.

It may be remote, but surely they have pillows in Darwin?

5 hours ago, ProDee said:

Great, now you can answer my question in the "Critiquing the content not the person" thread.

 

5 hours ago, ProDee said:

Great, now you can answer my question in the "Critiquing the content not the person" thread.

Well I referred to the piece about Matt Jones and the hurt he felt from time to time.

its a GAME for heavens' sake. Why do people feel the need to be quite vicious, occasionally

In terms of what happened...as opposed the narrative...are we any the wiser ?  just curious, cheers.

4 minutes ago, Farmer said:

 

Well I referred to the piece about Matt Jones and the hurt he felt from time to time.

its a GAME for heavens' sake. Why do people feel the need to be quite vicious, occasionally

This answer doesn't help me much, but thanks for replying.

What "vicious" or hurtful comments are you talking about ?

Is it simply posters saying he should be dropped ?  Was some other critique about his footballing prowess, like not being able to keep his feet or turning it over with poor decisions or footskills ?

Are these the types of vicious comments you're referring to ?  Or do you have other examples ?

EDIT: I'm not privy to any "piece" on Jones.

3 hours ago, monoccular said:

Has anyone had any update on Dean's injury?

 

Apparently Dean is still in Darwin in the cool room. They forgot him completely.

Its a little embarrassing but because he was looking so sad no one wanted to go in and speak with him. As a result the rest of the players have travelled back to Melbourne without him and in addition to Dean's shoulder injury he now has frostbite and will lose three limbs.

He is hoping to return in round 23.

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Apparently Dean is still in Darwin in the cool room. They forgot him completely.

Its a little embarrassing but because he was looking so sad no one wanted to go in and speak with him. As a result the rest of the players have travelled back to Melbourne without him and in addition to Dean's shoulder injury he now has frostbite and will lose three limbs.

He is hoping to return in round 23.

Don't forget that its in Darwin where they have never had to deal with a dislocated shoulder before. They don't even have pillows.

8 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Don't forget that its in Darwin where they have never had to deal with a dislocated shoulder before. They don't even have pillows.

the reason he was abandoned and alone was because all the support staff were busy scouring darwin and environs for a pillow

Hate to use an obvious cliche, but storm in a [censored] tea cup.