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1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Any info on why it went so poorly? Powerpoint pres have too much white space? Joffa was loitering out the front was a cigarette and a bevvy?

"Are you keeping Buckley?"

"Yes"

"Well,  thanks for the meeting. I'll just see myself out"

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On 9/8/2017 at 8:00 AM, stevethemanjordan said:

At 22, some of his defensive plays are insane.

Some of his spoils last night went as far as 30 metres. 

And his composure with ball in hand is super impressive.

I don't care what we give up, he is going to be the best defender in the comp within a few years.

So he's on a par with Oscar according to some here....Straight swap anyone?

Posted
17 hours ago, Chook in Perth said:

Lever has met with both Melbourne and Collingwood.

One meeting went very well. The other didn't.

:pj:

Is this a riddle? Its that time of year....

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6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Is this a riddle? Its that time of year....

Wasn't there a riddle a couple of seasons back, something about a bird or something coming to us?

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47 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Wasn't there a riddle a couple of seasons back, something about a bird or something coming to us?

Haha the famous riddle didn't that start a [censored] storm 

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The contrasting form of Maynard and Tyson in the second half of the year has made Tyson very expendable. The best way to get Lever without giving up too much would be to get Tyson to another Vic team.

Something like...

Melb -   out: Tyson, pick 10                                             in: Lever, pick 38

Adel -    out: Lever, pick 18                                               in: Gibbs, pick 10

Carl -     out: Gibbs, pick 38                                              in: Tyson, pick 18

Posted
2 minutes ago, godees said:

The contrasting form of Maynard and Tyson in the second half of the year has made Tyson very expendable. The best way to get Lever without giving up too much would be to get Tyson to another Vic team.

Something like...

Melb -   out: Tyson, pick 10                                             in: Lever, pick 38

Adel -    out: Lever, pick 18                                               in: Gibbs, pick 10

Carl -     out: Gibbs, pick 38                                              in: Tyson, pick 18

Adelaide would be laughing in that trade.

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16 minutes ago, godees said:

The contrasting form of Maynard and Tyson in the second half of the year has made Tyson very expendable. The best way to get Lever without giving up too much would be to get Tyson to another Vic team.

Something like...

Melb -   out: Tyson, pick 10                                             in: Lever, pick 38

Adel -    out: Lever, pick 18                                               in: Gibbs, pick 10

Carl -     out: Gibbs, pick 38                                              in: Tyson, pick 18

I think that is a fair trade for all...

Great game from Maynard today. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Jibroni said:

Adelaide would be laughing in that trade.

Carlton giving their second round pick to Adelaide would help but they traded it out last year. Gibbs is worth a lot though - he's only 28 and is in the top 50 players in the AFL. Adelaide could definitely use him

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1 hour ago, Jibroni said:

Adelaide would be laughing in that trade.

The main point I'm trying to make though is that I think Tyson and 10 is a reasonable trade for Lever (and something small back) and that Adelaide should take it if Tyson can be exchanged for something reasonable. He'd be worth an early second round pick (late first at a stretch) I would have thought.

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2 minutes ago, godees said:

The main point I'm trying to make though is that I think Tyson and 10 is a reasonable trade for Lever (and something small back) and that Adelaide should take it if Tyson can be exchanged for something reasonable. He'd be worth an early second round pick (late first at a stretch) I would have thought.

While i am not Tysons biggest fan he is worth more than receiving pick 38 in your scenario. I agree is worth an early 2nd rounder.

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Lol. We need more mids, we don't need to be giving the mids we already have away. Particularly, the ball magnets. Tyson's disposal (by foot) was horrible in 2017, but he continues to get the ball. It's about correcting the decision making and getting that knee sorted, not trading him. An idiotic suggestion really, but each to their own.

Our midfield is Oliver, Viney, Petracca and Salem, then the old guys like Jones, Lewis and Vince (the butcher) might go through there too. Add our half backs/forwards like Melksham and Hunt into the mix as well. But don't mention the likes of AVB, Trenners or JKH. Now that is not a very deep midfield and it was exposed in the back end of 2017 with even the simple omission of Viney. We desperately need guys that get the ball a lot from the stoppages, because it means the opposition aren't getting it from the stoppages. Tyson is one of these guys. Say what you like about his disposal, but he's near the elite category in terms of getting the ball.

Lever will get done if he wants to come here. It'll be pick 10 and an exchange of picks or a trade that potentially involves another club. I'll trust the club to make the right decision.

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27 minutes ago, A F said:

Lol. We need more mids, we don't need to be giving the mids we already have away. Particularly, the ball magnets. Tyson's disposal (by foot) was horrible in 2017, but he continues to get the ball. It's about correcting the decision making and getting that knee sorted, not trading him. An idiotic suggestion really, but each to their own.

Our midfield is Oliver, Viney, Petracca and Salem, then the old guys like Jones, Lewis and Vince (the butcher) might go through there too. Add our half backs/forwards like Melksham and Hunt into the mix as well. But don't mention the likes of AVB, Trenners or JKH. Now that is not a very deep midfield and it was exposed in the back end of 2017 with even the simple omission of Viney. We desperately need guys that get the ball a lot from the stoppages, because it means the opposition aren't getting it from the stoppages. Tyson is one of these guys. Say what you like about his disposal, but he's near the elite category in terms of getting the ball.

Lever will get done if he wants to come here. It'll be pick 10 and an exchange of picks or a trade that potentially involves another club. I'll trust the club to make the right decision.

You can get quality without giving up quality. We aren't going to get lever for 10 and a pack of chips. Tyson is replaceable with Maynard who hardly played this year and looks like being a similar style of ball magnet. Yes, we need more midfielders but we are very strong inside and rather need outside class and speed (which Tyson does not provide). He's a good but limited player in an area where we are well served.

Btw, belittling what is a reasonable suggestion reflects idiocy towards you, not me. Thinking that Tyson's deficiencies can be fixed easily adds a bit of delusion to that too. 

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Adelaide will try but I think we'll get the deal done without offering up a best 22 player. 

Should lever nominate us of course 

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32 minutes ago, A F said:

Lol. We need more mids, we don't need to be giving the mids we already have away. Particularly, the ball magnets. Tyson's disposal (by foot) was horrible in 2017, but he continues to get the ball. It's about correcting the decision making and getting that knee sorted, not trading him. An idiotic suggestion really, but each to their own.

Our midfield is Oliver, Viney, Petracca and Salem, then the old guys like Jones, Lewis and Vince (the butcher) might go through there too. Add our half backs/forwards like Melksham and Hunt into the mix as well. But don't mention the likes of AVB, Trenners or JKH. Now that is not a very deep midfield and it was exposed in the back end of 2017 with even the simple omission of Viney. We desperately need guys that get the ball a lot from the stoppages, because it means the opposition aren't getting it from the stoppages. Tyson is one of these guys. Say what you like about his disposal, but he's near the elite category in terms of getting the ball.

Lever will get done if he wants to come here. It'll be pick 10 and an exchange of picks or a trade that potentially involves another club. I'll trust the club to make the right decision.

Many recite possession numbers. And Tyson has high possesion counts. His disposal is [censored] and has been for 2 years. You seem to think it isnt a big deal. I do think it is because I see us running out of gas 18 weeks into the season this year and last. My view is we are contesting fine but players are wearied from not getting enough clean balls to lighten their load and eventually it kills the team. Hawthorns well known ability to  pinpoint kicks and handballs helped keep them fresh into September.  Tysons not the only one but he is obvious because he can get the pill.

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Here is an interesting article estimating how much some key players might benefit from the CBA windfall on their contract renewal.  http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/show-me-the-money-afl-players-seeking-pay-days-in-2018-20170907-gycjyw.html

Summary:

  • TOM LYNCH - $1.3 million
  • BEN BROWN - worth more than $700,000
  • CHRISTIAN PETRACCA - between $550,000 to $600,000
  • TOBY GREENE - up to $700,000
  • SAM DOCHERTY - more than $600,000
  • PATRICK CRIPPS - $600,000 a year is within reach
  • MAX GAWN - over $700,000
  • MARCUS BONTEMPELLI  - around $800,000
  • OTHERS TO WATCH:  Rory Sloane, Marc Murphy, Cam Guthrie, Lachie Whitfield, Jamie Elliott, Phil Davis, Oscar McDonald, Luke McDonald 

That suggests a player needs to be a potential match winner/champion to earn over $600,00.  It makes me wonder if we on DL sometimes overestimate a targeted player's package.  Having said that I'm sure clubs would pay a lot more to lure them away.

If we get Lever and if reports of $800,000+ are correct I would imagine Maxy would be rather put out! 

Lever would become our second highest paid player behind Hogan.  Won't be easy keeping all our talent if rumours on Lever's package are correct and if we get him. 

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32 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Here is an interesting article estimating how much some key players might benefit from the CBA windfall on their contract renewal.  http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/show-me-the-money-afl-players-seeking-pay-days-in-2018-20170907-gycjyw.html

Summary:

  • TOM LYNCH - $1.3 million
  • BEN BROWN - worth more than $700,000
  • CHRISTIAN PETRACCA - between $550,000 to $600,000
  • TOBY GREENE - up to $700,000
  • SAM DOCHERTY - more than $600,000
  • PATRICK CRIPPS - $600,000 a year is within reach
  • MAX GAWN - over $700,000
  • MARCUS BONTEMPELLI  - around $800,000
  • OTHERS TO WATCH:  Rory Sloane, Marc Murphy, Cam Guthrie, Lachie Whitfield, Jamie Elliott, Phil Davis, Oscar McDonald, Luke McDonald 

That suggests a player needs to be a potential match winner/champion to earn over $600,00.  It makes me wonder if we on DL sometimes overestimate a targeted player's package.  Having said that I'm sure clubs would pay a lot more to lure them away.

If we get Lever and if reports of $800,000+ are correct I would imagine Maxy would be rather put out! 

Lever would become our second highest paid player behind Hogan.  Won't be easy keeping all our talent if rumours on Lever's package are correct and if we get him. 

To be fair Luci, I don't think their "package" should have anything to do with the deal.

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I don't think lever will leave the crows without the offer being overs potentially in a $$$ sense but I consider him a hogan level talent and he's going to be around the all australian mark for a decade so well worth it 

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Late mail will not be coming! Will stay at Adelaide! 

Another False Dawn!

 

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2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Late mail will not be coming! Will stay at Adelaide! 

Another False Dawn!

 

Elaborate please...

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