Deecisive 1,709 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 the only concern i have with going after lever is that we will be paying him big $'s, then in the next few years we will have others throwing big $'s at Hogan and Trac, Hunt, etc. which means we have to offer them big $'s to keep them. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Demon77 said: Jake Lever on playing footy deep into September #AFLGFParade 0:59 Can anybody read eyes? Looking up and left is lying , yeah? Book him in Danno !! 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Deecisive said: the only concern i have with going after lever is that we will be paying him big $'s, then in the next few years we will have others throwing big $'s at Hogan and Trac, Hunt, etc. which means we have to offer them big $'s to keep them. Don't think it will be an issue if we are contending. The CBA is going up and guys like Lewis, Jones & Vince will be finishing up or retired. They will be replaced by younger players on a lower wage. 1 Quote
Tough Kent 2,138 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 I'm not sure why people are so concerned with what we might potentially pay Jake. Todd Viney and his list management team plan for every conceivable senario years out from it eventuating.This will not be a panicked, spur of the moment decision. 8 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 ROO basically admitted the crows have given up on keeping jake Quote
massola78 2 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 20 hours ago, Demon77 said: Jake Lever on playing footy deep into September #AFLGFParade 0:59 Can anybody read eyes? Looking up and left is lying , yeah? Three opportunities to give a straight answer and he didn’t. He’s GAWN and hopefully headed our way. Quote
brendan 3,458 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 I have seen enough worth every cent 6 Quote
Demons1858 1,823 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 20 hours ago, Is Dom Is Good said: Don't think it will be an issue if we are contending. The CBA is going up and guys like Lewis, Jones & Vince will be finishing up or retired. They will be replaced by younger players on a lower wage. Agree. A 20% CBA increase in the cap means $800k is the same as $650k in the past. And $650k in a few years will be the equivalent of $500K. You also have to pay market rates to get someone decent. Not too much to pay given all defenders can pressure but few can make goid decisions and he will likely be with mfc player the rest of his career 1 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 Wasn’t disgraced today out on the big stage. Played ok considering how easy the tigers got the ball in. 2 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said: Wasn’t disgraced today out on the big stage. Played ok considering how easy the tigers got the ball in. Was very average, was OK in the first quarter and racked up some junk time stats late in the game. Gave away a shocking free kick that costed a goal when Adelaide were doing well early. Showed his lack of speed today and again didn't match up on a quality opponent.You would want a player of his size who is not going to play KP, to take the likes of Martin or Dangerfield. Still don't see him being worth the kind of money that is being talked about, whether that is 750 or 900. 1 Quote
grey wolf 226 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 Watching the game today through a haze of cheroot smoke and the taste of an Asahi or three it seems obvious we need pace pressure and power and this boy was a rabbit in the headlights so pick 27 and nothing else but also plain to see wattsy is yesterday's hero so pick 29 form port would be okay and keep 10 for speed...... 1 Quote
What 18,810 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 The sad thing is we will pay top dollar, then the Crows will easily find a replacement for him and not miss a beat. I wouldn't be against keeping pick 10 and forgetting Lever... groom Joel SMith for that role. 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: The sad thing is we will pay top dollar, then the Crows will easily find a replacement for him and not miss a beat. I wouldn't be against keeping pick 10 and forgetting Lever... groom Joel SMith for that role. Lever plays a role that we desperately lack in term of his intercept marking. It's why we're paying overs to get him. He's a huge missing link 1 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 Lever is also quite young. Got that in his favour. Should get better. Quote
pineapple dee 2,892 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 On 29/09/2017 at 5:55 PM, Demon77 said: Jake Lever on playing footy deep into September #AFLGFParade 0:59 Can anybody read eyes? Looking up and left is lying , yeah? Yeah that's true, no doubt! And if you scratch your left [censored] whilst looking over your right shoulder, that's also indicative of a liar. Or perhaps you just have crabs. Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Petraccattack said: The sad thing is we will pay top dollar, then the Crows will easily find a replacement for him and not miss a beat. I wouldn't be against keeping pick 10 and forgetting Lever... groom Joel SMith for that role. Fully agree. Overated, nowhere near a first round pick. Develop what we have already and go hard at quality runners who can kick a football 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, grey wolf said: Watching the game today through a haze of cheroot smoke and the taste of an Asahi or three it seems obvious we need pace pressure and power and this boy was a rabbit in the headlights so pick 27 and nothing else but also plain to see wattsy is yesterday's hero so pick 29 form port would be okay and keep 10 for speed...... hahaha Quote
manny100 1,625 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 Hmmmm, value dropped a tad today, looked to big and slow for the smalls. Will not be tall enough or strong enough to play on the bigger talls. Lucky for him most teams have 3rd tall forwards and he can play the intercept role. 1 Quote
Dee Zephyr 19,311 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 The kid is good, great below his knees, doesn't fumble, good evading skills and can read the play. Regardless if we are giving overs, does this kid walk into our best 22? Most of us believe we should chase players to make us better, he will. 2 Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 I think Jake was quite good today, best of the crows and helped to keep the scoreline from getting real ugly. 1 Quote
ThreeOneSix 954 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Demon77 said: The kid is good, great below his knees, doesn't fumble, good evading skills and can read the play. Regardless if we are giving overs, does this kid walk into our best 22? Most of us believe we should chase players to make us better, he will. Yeah he does. But. We should inquire as to the availability of Nick Hayne (GWS). I would rate him as good a prospect as Lever. So we have more than one card to play here. Whether the club play it or not. But I would. As to Lever, he did ok today - below his best (but ok). Rance was important for Richmond, and Lever is miles ahead of Rance at this stage of his career. Lever is quality. The thing is, so is Haynes, and can we find other key position back man of quality - in order to make Adelaide believe we aren't do or die on this deal? We need to drive this price (picks wise) down. 2 Quote
ickey_11 145 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, manny100 said: Hmmmm, value dropped a tad today, looked to big and slow for the smalls. Will not be tall enough or strong enough to play on the bigger talls. Lucky for him most teams have 3rd tall forwards and he can play the intercept role. Jake Level is 1cm taller than TMcD..... i would think that Hibberd would be getting a small to pick up first. Quote
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, ThreeOneSix said: Yeah he does. But. We should inquire as to the availability of Nick Hayne (GWS). I would rate him as good a prospect as Lever. So we have more than one card to play here. Whether the club play it or not. But I would. As to Lever, he did ok today - below his best (but ok). Rance was important for Richmond, and Lever is miles ahead of Rance at this stage of his career. Lever is quality. The thing is, so is Haynes, and can we find other key position back man of quality - in order to make Adelaide believe we aren't do or die on this deal? We need to drive this price (picks wise) down. Think Nick may be on his way to St Kilda. Quote
manny100 1,625 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 We have a duty to talk Lever down and Watts up until trade season is over. Quote
Roost It 1,434 Posted September 30, 2017 Posted September 30, 2017 It's not up for debate hes coming deal done move on spoke to my man today regarding Hogan. Was told he's not part of the untradeables but only leaving for absolute top dollar. His management are adamant he's happy in Melbourne and that he'll remain a Dee for quite some time. 9 Quote
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