Training - Tuesday 14 March, 2017

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3 hours ago, ManDee said:

Saty, more care is good but I strongly believe that you play as you train and Hulett wants to impress so good on him. Next time round Watt should put him on his ar4se. As if that would happen.

have to train hard with intensity. 

train hard but not tackle or make contact in a reckless manner.

but easier said than done with a competitive list. 

[Stretch Johnson 2,578]

8 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Hulett's approach to the contest was reckless, it was a training drill, it was pure luck he didn't seriously injure Watts

As I said he also got Hannan as well

A bit critical there...

Yeah but have you ever been on an AFL list?

 

[Dwight Schrute 16,803]

8 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Hulett's approach to the contest was reckless, it was a training drill, it was pure luck he didn't seriously injure Watts

As I said he also got Hannan as well

Good! Train as you play! Can't ask the opposition to take it easy 

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3 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Agreed. The more I saw of him last year the less excited I was. He's not tall enough to be a stay at home contested marking machine. Doesn't have much of a leap of him either. He's not quick or agile enough to be a lead up forward. He's not skilled or smart enough to be a third forward option like Watts or Petracca. I can't see him making it at AFL level. He's depth for 2 years and then delist material in my opinion.

Grundy went to Sydney as a forward, but couldn't cut the mustard.

It may be worthwhile having a look at him in defence even though the club may see him more as a forward. 

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2 hours ago, ProDee said:

Grundy went to Sydney as a forward, but couldn't cut the mustard.

It may be worthwhile having a look at him in defence even though the club may see him more as a forward. 

Lonergan at the Cats too.

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6 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

yep...Im getting over the Watts bashing too. I cant believe we're back here to be honest....after all the work Roos did to change the subject

I'm sick of it too. It's boring. And unimaginative in the extreme.

It's also sleazy from a factual perspective - Watts remains a required player.

 

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4 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

A bit critical there...

Yeah but have you ever been on an AFL list?

 

I said reckless, which any fool, including those on here can understand, but can also understand why he is the way he is, perhaps like Viney needs to temper it ever so slightly against team mates

Edited March 15, 2017 by Satyriconhome

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18 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Lonergan at the Cats too.

Ted Richards yet another example 

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22 hours ago, Abe said:

Good! Train as you play! Can't ask the opposition to take it easy 

 From last year.....

"However Jones said player safety on the training track was paramount, with teammates urged not to inflict any preventable injuries.

“I think it’s just the risk of injury after a long pre-season, that’s why in that case yesterday Tommy fired back. Jack’s really competitive and so are most of our players,” Jones said.

“We try to stick to not dumping blokes in tackles. If someone’s coming back with the flight of the ball, you’re not running through them with a spoil coming the other way. There’s a bit of care taken with tackling and a bit of care taken with particular aerial contests.” ( my emphasis)

 

I wasn't at training so I can't comment on what Hulett did. But to those who say you train like you play -. If you can take the body in marking contest in game you go for it - you don't do that at training to a teammate  - so no...you do not necessarily train as you play - you keep the intensity at the ball but you may restrict the impact on a teammates body which you would not do in a match.   

[Akum 2,660]

8 minutes ago, nutbean said:

From last year.....

"However Jones said player safety on the training track was paramount, with teammates urged not to inflict any preventable injuries.

“I think it’s just the risk of injury after a long pre-season, that’s why in that case yesterday Tommy fired back. Jack’s really competitive and so are most of our players,” Jones said.

“We try to stick to not dumping blokes in tackles. If someone’s coming back with the flight of the ball, you’re not running through them with a spoil coming the other way. There’s a bit of care taken with tackling and a bit of care taken with particular aerial contests.” ( my emphasis)

I wasn't at training so I can't comment on what Hulett did. But to those who say you train like you play -. If you can take the body in marking contest in game you go for it - you don't do that at training to a teammate  - so no...you do not necessarily train as you play - you keep the intensity at the ball but you may restrict the impact on a teammates body which you would not do in a match.   

Great get. This should be the standard.

My point is, I hope it wasn't Watts that got spoken to this time.

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35 minutes ago, nutbean said:

 

 From last year.....

"However Jones said player safety on the training track was paramount, with teammates urged not to inflict any preventable injuries.

“I think it’s just the risk of injury after a long pre-season, that’s why in that case yesterday Tommy fired back. Jack’s really competitive and so are most of our players,” Jones said.

“We try to stick to not dumping blokes in tackles. If someone’s coming back with the flight of the ball, you’re not running through them with a spoil coming the other way. There’s a bit of care taken with tackling and a bit of care taken with particular aerial contests.” ( my emphasis)

 

I wasn't at training so I can't comment on what Hulett did. But to those who say you train like you play -. If you can take the body in marking contest in game you go for it - you don't do that at training to a teammate  - so no...you do not necessarily train as you play - you keep the intensity at the ball but you may restrict the impact on a teammates body which you would not do in a match.   

I agree but I think what you're talking about might be a technical issue for Liam, you want the intensity with as little risk as possible, jack Viney certainly doesn't seem to take it easy on anyone at training so it's a balanace 

[The Chazz 4,077]

2 hours ago, Akum said:

Great get. This should be the standard.

My point is, I hope it wasn't Watts that got spoken to this time.

Is that what you really meant when you said this...?

On 15/3/2017 at 0:26 AM, Akum said:

No Saty, I was just going on DeeSpencer's report:

For whatever reason, I wouldn't be surprised to see Spencer in & Watts out, with something like this as the excuse. 

If so, I apologise for misinterpreting.

I know it's a fan forum, and if we didn't do what I'm about to say then we wouldn't have much to talk about, but given the amount of insight we have with regards to training, training loads, training input, GPS data, etc, etc, that we can form a view of why or why not a player will be selected.  Even more so if you don't/didn't attend training.  It's why I have no view on the co-captaincy, just as much as I don't really have a view on the Watts situation.

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I have family that play in the AFL, have been on AFL lists previously and are still aspiring to get drafted. I can assure you at Christmas when we all catch up, table tennis, pool (snooker), chin up competitions and anything else that we can possibly compete at are front and centre of our Christmas Day celebrations.

You do not get on an AFL list without being extremely competitive. 

You can't just put the cue in the rack at training in case someone else gets hurt. You would have never got there in the first place with that kind of mentality.

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On 15/03/2017 at 6:59 AM, Drunkn167 said:

Having watched him all last season at Casey and the few number of training sessions I've been too, I disappointedly don't think Hulett will ever make it past VFL unless he has a huge development spike in the next season or two, I feel bad for the guy as he seems to work hard but ultimate I don't think he will get there.

Without ever having seen him in action, if he doesn't make it it will not be the end of the world for the club nor an indictment on our recruiting or player development, though of course it would be bitterly disappointing for Liam.

There must be data on what proportion of third round pick big men play senior footy at all, how many become regulars and how many actually make a big impact.  I suspect that only a minority become regulars. 

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anyone know if the Dee's have training at gosch's today?..