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On 5/3/2017 at 0:51 AM, Skuit said:

Do you mean they had the name 'Ollie' next to the name 'Wines' on the bench, as in the footballer named Ollie Wines sitting by himself? Or that Clayton Oliver, universally known by the nick-name 'Clarry', was on the bench next to Wines? I'll assume that you're trolling again, or else misunderstand a basic fundamental in the development of language; namely that the words we use have to be consistent in meaning and understood by both parties for there to be such a thing as communication.

Anyways, yay for Choo-Choo!

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55 minutes ago, Abe said:

What's impressive is that despite gawn being out, getting smashed in the hit outs and increased attention he is not slowing down. 

If you could pick between Oliver, Bont, Cripps and heeney who would you take?? 

1. Bontempelli. Star, although once Clarry learns to use his pace and break away from packs more, he could slot in here. (Needs to hit the scoreboard occasionally, too).

2. Oliver. Best clearance player as a teenager I've seen.

3. Heeney. Once he gets more of a run through the middle, he'll be phenomenal.

4. Cripps. Gun, but lacks pace and efficient kicking (and has a glass jaw). 

 

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56 minutes ago, Scythe said:

1. Bontempelli. Star, although once Clarry learns to use his pace and break away from packs more, he could slot in here. (Needs to hit the scoreboard occasionally, too).

2. Oliver. Best clearance player as a teenager I've seen.

3. Heeney. Once he gets more of a run through the middle, he'll be phenomenal.

4. Cripps. Gun, but lacks pace and efficient kicking (and has a glass jaw). 

 

4.  Crisps seems to play better with a "broken jaw" like Rowe does with "concussion"

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more than a passing resemblance

One a legend...the other one in the making :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, Abe said:

What's impressive is that despite gawn being out, getting smashed in the hit outs and increased attention he is not slowing down. 

If you could pick between Oliver, Bont, Cripps and heeney who would you take?? 

It's a tricky one, as Oliver and Heaney have less exposed form to go off. 

1. Bont - Hard to argue he's not the best young player in the league. He's the most proven, stood up in finals and is still very young. Match winner with versatility and x factor. Hard to believe he's only 21 with 67 games to his name and is already one of the best in the league!
2. Oliver - Best inside mid going around and still has a lot of development still left in him. Could become the best of the lot if he can learn to rest forward and hit the scoreboard. He has good kicking skills and decent pace, so if he can make use of those more the sky is the limit for him.
3 - Heeney - He's already kicked bags of goals as a forward, and shown he can be damaging as a midfielder. We bid pick 2 to take him, so rated him highly. Could become the best of the lot.
4 Cripps - Gun inside mid but fairly one dimensional. Doesn't have the pace or kicking skills of Oliver so don't believe his ceiling is as high. He's got more exposed form than Oliver and Heaney, but think he won't improve much further and they pass him.

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If we could have seen Clarry's current season record before round 1, I reckon most of us would have thought that 'Max must be having a great season'.  To think that he has achieved what he has on the back of mostly second, third, fourth and even fifth string ruckmen is phenomenal. 

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7 hours ago, beelzebub said:

11c5jzq.jpg

more than a passing resemblance

One a legend...the other one in the making :rolleyes:

Did we get Clary via F/S?

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Loved when he took a mark inside the 50, loved that Petracca broke quickly towards goal and loved that Oliver did not hesitate to honour the run and delivered a beautifully weighted kick to him for a goal. 

Great combination I want to see more of.

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16 minutes ago, CHF said:

Loved when he took a mark inside the 50, loved that Petracca broke quickly towards goal and loved that Oliver did not hesitate to honour the run and delivered a beautifully weighted kick to him for a goal. 

Great combination I want to see more of.

Still remember that great contested grab in his first game against Ward. That's my favourite Clarry mark, but the Essendon one was a beauty too.

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Our boy is starting to get recognition from the wider community.

From a review of the AFL Evolution video game:

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/a/35296945/afl-evolution-review-fun-but-no-revolution-on-ps4-xbox-one/#page1

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Speaking of frustration, don't be scared to move up the difficulties quickly. It will be tempting to stay on easy for a little bit to get your skills up, but the game really speeds up as you move up in the world and it makes for a more challenging experience. You'll be mashing the buttons to handball out of space like you're Clayton Oliver in no time.

 

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7 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Did Oliver start on the bench against the Hawks? 

The TV commentators said he started on the back of the square as an extra.

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6 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

The TV commentators said he started on the back of the square as an extra.

Strange move.

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5 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Strange move.

Or a clever way of finding out if he was going to have a full-on tag or not and therefore getting immediate intel on it!

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3 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

Or a clever way of finding out if he was going to have a full-on tag or not and therefore getting immediate intel on it!

That is a negative move. Not clever at all. 

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This must be the best problem the MFC has had in a decade.

We have a player who gets the ball so often we are worried about the method of disposal he uses.

I would rather be his coach trying to change that than be trying to work out how 20 others can get the ball. 

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6 minutes ago, old dee said:

This must be the best problem the MFC has had in a decade.

We have a player who gets the ball so often we are worried about the method of disposal he uses.

I would rather be his coach trying to change that than be trying to work out how 20 others can get the ball. 

I'd like to see Clarry kick more where possible, but the majority of the times that he gets the ball he's in the middle of a pack and only has a split second to send it on to someone else, hence the handball (usually in excellent fashion). He's a solid kick too, but we need him inside.

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Why anyone in this thread thinks they have a better idea than Clarry on how Clarry should dispose of it is beyond me.  The kid is a one in a million.  He knows what the best disposal method is for each situation, and we have no bloody idea.  That's the best part of having a player like this guy.  We just get to sit back and think "wow, that's how the good players play".  It's what makes them good.

 

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1 hour ago, billy2803 said:

Why anyone in this thread thinks they have a better idea than Clarry on how Clarry should dispose of it is beyond me.  The kid is a one in a million.  He knows what the best disposal method is for each situation, and we have no bloody idea.  That's the best part of having a player like this guy.  We just get to sit back and think "wow, that's how the good players play".  It's what makes them good.

 

Disagree. His instinct is to handball straight away. Its not always the best option.

Many of his stats are give and go where he will accumulate 3 or 4 stats in a passage of play. I love Clarrie but he has to learn to be more damaging with his stats. When appropriate he needs to burst out of congestion and then deliver to the best option.

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18 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

The TV commentators said he started on the back of the square as an extra.

That's often to disrupt opposition plans to tag or niggle him

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57 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Disagree. His instinct is to handball straight away. Its not always the best option.

Many of his stats are give and go where he will accumulate 3 or 4 stats in a passage of play. I love Clarrie but he has to learn to be more damaging with his stats. When appropriate he needs to burst out of congestion and then deliver to the best option.

If Clarry has to do 2 or 3 "give and go's" in one passage to make more space for himself and/or his teammate, then that's fine by me.  It's better than bombing it long under pressure, just to get his "kicks" stat up to impress some supporters.

Rarely do any of his offloads, either by hand or foot, put his mate under pressure.  It's a skill that stands out, mainly because not many players in our team, or in the league for that matter, possess it.

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21 hours ago, america de cali said:

That is a negative move. Not clever at all. 

Doesn't Sam Mitchell play off the back of the square for both the hawks and now wce? Isn't Mitchell regarded as one of the best stoppage clearance players in the league?

Seems like it might be you who is the negative one.

 

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On 2017-5-4 at 11:36 AM, Lord Travis said:

The betting apps offer a 'cash out' option most of the time these days. So if you place a bet at say $10 odds, then the odds come in for whatever reason, e.g. 4 of your 5 teams win in your multi, or in our case Oliver continuing his good form so his odds drop, you have the option to cash out at the rate offered instead of waiting for the bet to end. Oliver has already come from $67 to $51 since that article was published. If he keeps this form going and comes in to say $15 I will be able to cash out and make a profit without waiting for the Brownlow to happen. I did the same thing with Gawn last year and made a few bucks.

Oliver's in tremendous form, but I don't think he'll win the Brownlow. Maybe in a few years when umpires recognise him more and stop pinging him for throws. Tremendous young talent and so happy to see him stepping up at such a young age. Hopefully his teammates in Petracca, Brayshaw, Hunt, Hogan etc can all find similar consistency and impact as they are also very talented footballers.

Thanks for explaining that clearly. I appreciate it. 

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FWIW,

I reckon the Brownlow is likely to come from a team that ends up 7th,8th or 9th.

Clarry is in the box seat to win it considering we have few players to steal his votes currently

Other teams have a more even spread of stars.

Sloane is a threat but Clarry would be 1st or 2nd as it stands.

Hold on to your tickets.

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15 hours ago, Biffen said:

FWIW,

I reckon the Brownlow is likely to come from a team that ends up 7th,8th or 9th.

Clarry is in the box seat to win it considering we have few players to steal his votes currently

Other teams have a more even spread of stars.

Sloane is a threat but Clarry would be 1st or 2nd as it stands.

Hold on to your tickets.

Clarry needs to grow his hair longer to compete with Sloane.

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