Jump to content

Clarence Oliver

dazzledavey36
dazzledavey36
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

On 11/05/2017 at 9:00 AM, billy2803 said:

Why anyone in this thread thinks they have a better idea than Clarry on how Clarry should dispose of it is beyond me.  The kid is a one in a million.  He knows what the best disposal method is for each situation, and we have no bloody idea.  That's the best part of having a player like this guy.  We just get to sit back and think "wow, that's how the good players play".  It's what makes them good.

 

I don't pretend to know how to coach Clarrie to make him an even better disposer of the ball, but the kid is only 19. To suggest that he already knows how to perfectly dispose of the ball in every situation is ludicrous. He makes mistakes, but he's a kid still learning his craft - that is what makes him so exciting. Who knows how high his ceiling might be.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     
    2 hours ago, Luther said:

    I don't pretend to know how to coach Clarrie to make him an even better disposer of the ball, but the kid is only 19. To suggest that he already knows how to perfectly dispose of the ball in every situation is ludicrous. He makes mistakes, but he's a kid still learning his craft - that is what makes him so exciting. Who knows how high his ceiling might be.

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

    As he builds a tank he'll be able to get that balance and find more footy in space. The kid is still only playing about 70%TOG.

    He'll be the new perma-captain in fantasy footy once he has an AFL standard tank.

  • Quote
    •  
    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

    Not saying it's right or wrong and obviously game style has changed a fair bit over the last 20 odd years, but Greg Williams, known as both a prolific handballer disposal getter lead the league for both these categories for most of the period between 1984 - 1994, with an average hanballs per game of around 16 and average disposals of 30 - so far this year Clary is going at 23 and 31 respectively.

    Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

  • Quote
    3 hours ago, Luther said:

    I don't pretend to know how to coach Clarrie to make him an even better disposer of the ball, but the kid is only 19. To suggest that he already knows how to perfectly dispose of the ball in every situation is ludicrous. He makes mistakes, but he's a kid still learning his craft - that is what makes him so exciting. Who knows how high his ceiling might be.

    well said. Agree totally in your reply. Clarrie will take time to develop and for anyone who has played the game, when in close the only option sometimes is to hand ball. Jordan Lewis is of similar ilk and he knows how to create space to either effectively kick or handball. That game plan will come with Clarrie.  What we also should give credit to are the people who decided to select Clarrie over names like Sharenberg,Rioli or Hopper in the first place.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Would love to land one of the GWS smalls to compliment our mid brigade. Kelly has got a lot of trade press of late, any one of Shiel, Cogniglio, Whitfield or even Dylan Smith would be handy.

    I'd take $cully back, but he'd have to play VFL only

     :pj:

    Edited by Moonshadow

  • Quote
    7 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Would love to land one of the GWS smalls to compliment our mid brigade. Kelly has got a lot of trade press of late, any one of Shiel, Cogniglio, Whitfield or even Dylan Smith would be handy.

    I'd take $cully back, but he'd have to play VFL only

     :pj:

    Think you mean Devon Smith? He can be inconsistent but I really rate him and he'd be the most gettable of those by far.

  • Quote
    8 minutes ago, Luther said:

    Think you mean Devon Smith? He can be inconsistent but I really rate him and he'd be the most gettable of those by far.

    That's him. Thanks Luth. They are all reasonably young but good size and smart footballers (Whitfield not so smart off field). 

    And FMD isn't that Lobb a big, mobile unit...

  • Quote
    •  
    6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    That's him. Thanks Luth. They are all reasonably young but good size and smart footballers (Whitfield not so smart off field). 

    And FMD isn't that Lobb a big, mobile unit...

    Lobb is a genuine freak, might just be the best of he, Patton and Cameron.

  • Quote

    Is there a futures market for the Brownlow?

    Once the umpires can see as fast as Oliver can gather/dispose, he will win in a canter.

    I'd put a grand on him now.

     

     

  • Quote

    Quite simply a magnificent player - he has everything and he's 19. Perhaps we are watching one of the greatest ever emerge in front of our own eyes. 

  • Quote
    • Like 5
    1 hour ago, WattsUp2312 said:

    Quite simply a magnificent player - he has everything and he's 19. Perhaps we are watching one of the greatest ever emerge in front of our own eyes. 

    I still can't get over seeing him grabbing the ball while he is in mid air and before his feet have hit the ground he has already fired out a handball. The awareness and speed is insane.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Todays win, the news will be him and Track. Track got the 3 votes on mmm. This is their breakout.

  • Quote
    • Like 5

    This kid keeps getting better, and I can't thank Todd Viney and co for picking him. He could be the best of our lot of young lad and given the talent in that group that is really saying something. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    Even more than the goal from the boundary, how good was his chase and tackle on Smith! 

  • Quote
    • Like 9

    He kicked it more this week and he's usually damaging with his kicking. He obviously kicked a miracle goal, but he directly setup another goal by pulling the trigger and kicking long instead of hand balling it off like he usually does. Goodwin has started resting him forward too which is a good move as his hands are strong and he's setup a few goals now while resting down there (set one up for Petracca last week and two I can remember last night). 

    This kid is already a great player, but he could be a star of the comp in the very near future. So excited to have such a talent playing for the Dees!

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    26 minutes ago, Nasher said:

    I'm starting to think Oliver could be a pretty good player.

    He has some potential, I guess.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    20 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

    He has some potential, I guess.

    Needs to work on his contested possessions. Bit weak in this area I feel. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    46 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

    He has some potential, I guess.

    Probably worth retaining on the rookie list once his contract has ended ....

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    I'm just so glad that the recruiting team didn't go the safe option in Parish (who is also a good player). Clarry is something else, though.

  • Quote

    • Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • PREVIEW: Fremantle

      A month is a long time in AFL football. The proof of this is in the current state of the two teams contesting against each other early this Saturday afternoon at the MCG. It’s hard to fathom that when Melbourne and Fremantle kicked off the 2025 season, the former looked like being a major player in this year’s competition after it came close to beating one of the favourites in the GWS Giants while the latter was smashed by Geelong to the tune of 78 points and looked like rubbish. Fast forward to today and the Demons are low on confidence and appear panic stricken as their winless streak heads towards an even half dozen and pressure mounts on the coach and team leadership.  Meanwhile, the Dockers have recovered their composure and now sit in the top eight. They are definitely on the up and up and look most likely winners this weekend against a team which they have recently dominated and which struggles to find enough passages to the goals to trouble the scorers. And with that, Fremantle will head to the MCG, feeling very good about itself after demolishing Richmond in the Barossa Valley with Josh Treacy coming off a six goal haul and facing up to a Melbourne defence already without Jake Lever and a shaky Steven May needing to pass a fitness test just to make it onto the field of play. 

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • NON-MFC: Round 06

      The Easter Round kicks off in style with a Thursday night showdown between Brisbane and Collingwood, as both sides look to solidify their spots inside the Top 4 early in the season. Good Friday brings a double-header, with Carlton out to claim consecutive wins when they face the struggling Kangaroos, while later that night the Eagles host the Bombers in Perth, still chasing their first victory of the year. Saturday features another marquee clash as the resurgent Crows look to rebound from back-to-back losses against a formidable GWS outfit. That evening, all eyes will be on Marvel Stadium where Damien Hardwick returns to face his old side—the Tigers—coaching the Suns at a ground he's never hidden his disdain for. Sunday offers two crucial contests where the prize is keeping touch with the Top 8. First, Sydney and Port Adelaide go head-to-head, followed by a fierce battle between the Bulldogs and the Saints. Then, Easter Monday delivers the traditional clash between two bitter rivals, both desperate for a win to stay in touch with the top end of the ladder. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons?

      • 119 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Essendon

      What were they thinking? I mean by “they” the coaching panel and team selectors who chose the team to play against an opponent who, like Melbourne, had made a poor start to the season and who they appeared perfectly capable of beating in what was possibly the last chance to turn the season around.It’s no secret that the Demons’ forward line is totally dysfunctional, having opened the season barely able to average sixty points per game which means there has been no semblance of any system from the team going forward into attack. Nevertheless, on Saturday night at the Adelaide Oval in one of the Gather Round showcase games, Melbourne, with Max Gawn dominating the hit outs against a depleted Essendon ruck resulting from Nick Bryan’s early exit, finished just ahead in clearances won and found itself inside the 50 metre arc 51 times to 43. The end result was a final score that had the Bombers winning 15.6 (96) to 8.9 (57). On balance, one could expect this to result in a two or three goal win, but in this case, it translated into a six and a half goal defeat because they only managed to convert eight times or 11.68% of their entries. The Bombers more than doubled that. On Thursday night at the same ground, the losing team Adelaide managed to score 100 points from almost the same number of times inside 50.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Essendon

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 14th April @ the all new time of 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect another Demons loss at Kardinia Park to the Cats in the Round 04. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • 63 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Fremantle

      The Demons return home to the MCG in search of their first win for the 2025 Premiership season when they take on the Fremantle Dockers on Saturday afternoon. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • 445 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • VOTES: Essendon

      Max Gawn leads the Demonland Player of the Year ahead of Clayton Oliver, Christian Petracca, Kade Chandler and Jake Bowey. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • 24 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All