Training - Monday 28th November, 2016

[Little Richard 6,265]

11 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

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Melbourne FC ‏@melbournefc  2m2 minutes ago

Straight into it! First day for Dion Johnstone! #myheartbeatstrue

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He's possibly the youngest looking footballer I've ever seen.

I have a better one... Zach Guthrie has been rookied by the Cats and will join his older brother Cam.

 

[Gorgoroth 13,016]

Yeah I think the "rehab" group is a misleading term as all players will have times when they join it whether for a session or certain drills.

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

9 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Yeah I think the "rehab" group is a misleading term as all players will have times when they join it whether for a session or certain drills.

I have covered Trenners being in the rehab group, I spoke to him so this is his words

"In rehab group to steadily increase load on foot, foot is fine, still gets it checked out once a month, loads and loads of running, to be ready to go 1st training session after Xmas break"

On Oliver he has been generally crook, lack of energy etc, have sent him for a battery of tests, club being cautious with him

 

[The Chazz 4,077]

19 hours ago, olisik said:

Am I the only one disappointed by Trenners being in the rehab group his second week back? 

As far as we know he had no injuries at the end of last season and was lucky to be given a 1 year contract.

 

would have thought he would have gotten himself conditioned enough like most the players to be ready to rock it with the main group from day 1. Extremely disappointed he still needs to be eased into it when he had highlighted that he wanted to use this pre season to get his explosiveness back 

Who said he was lucky to be given a contract?  Mahoney?  Jack?

Jack is one of the most professional players on the list.  Your concerns about the shape that he has come back in are totally uneducated.

[Diamond_Jim 12,627]

17 hours ago, Luther said:

I have a better one... Zach Guthrie has been rookied by the Cats and will join his older brother Cam.

 

Looks like he could play in the Under 15's

Makes you question the drafting age. Year 12 school is not the big decision point it used to be so why not move the draft age out a year or two. It could be done over 4 years with six month increments each year so as not to kill the draft.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

Looks like he could play in the Under 15's

Makes you question the drafting age. Year 12 school is not the big decision point it used to be so why not move the draft age out a year or two. It could be done over 4 years with six month increments each year so as not to kill the draft.

There's a risk, though, that the longer a kid has to wait to be drafted the more likely he might be tempted by another code, such as soccer or basketball.

[Diamond_Jim 12,627]

30 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

There's a risk, though, that the longer a kid has to wait to be drafted the more likely he might be tempted by another code, such as soccer or basketball.

The basket ball in the US is interesting

I think they need one year in College. In the past drafting was done at the end of college. In recent years starting with Carmelo Anthony (IIRC) the stars have been disappearing to the NBA after year 1. (Money and risk of injury are the main drivers).

On the other hand NFL requires that you have been out of high school for three years

(Just looked up NBA... they require one year post high school and a minimum age of 19 years.)

Not so worried about them being pinched by other sports. If anything it might improve our cricket stocks but that is only a very few players. Soccer... the kids start at under ten at the latest. Hard to see an Australian Rules player changing to the round ball code

Edited November 29, 2016 by Diamond_Jim

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

The basket ball in the US is interesting

I think they need one year in College. In the past drafting was done at the end of college. In recent years starting with Carmelo Anthony (IIRC) the stars have been disappearing to the NBA after year 1. (Money and risk of injury are the main drivers).

On the other hand NFL requires that you have been out of high school for three years

(Just looked up NBA... they require one year post high school and a minimum age of 19 years.)

Not so worried about them being pinched by other sports. If anything it might improve our cricket stocks but that is only a very few players. Soccer... the kids start at under ten at the latest. Hard to see an Australian Rules player changing to the round ball code

They have a much bigger pool to draw on, so the competition for the best athletes isn't as strong as it is here in Australia.  We have Cricket, Basketball, Rugby, Rugby, Football and Football all competing for a pretty limited pool of talented kids.  The kids are going to go where the money is, so if one code decides that 18 is too young to offer them contracts they will very quickly be unable to attract any decent players. 

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

On 28 November 2016 at 7:51 PM, olisik said:

Am I the only one disappointed by Trenners being in the rehab group his second week back? 

As far as we know he had no injuries at the end of last season and was lucky to be given a 1 year contract.

 

would have thought he would have gotten himself conditioned enough like most the players to be ready to rock it with the main group from day 1. Extremely disappointed he still needs to be eased into it when he had highlighted that he wanted to use this pre season to get his explosiveness back 

His perseverance has been Herculean. His professionalism is lauded by everyone.

There is no way he's in the rehab group b/c he's out of condition as a result of being too heavily on the cans in the off season etc.

I'm sure it's just part of his (modified) programme.

 

[jnrmac 20,183]

On 11/28/2016 at 11:11 PM, Luther said:

I have a better one... Zach Guthrie has been rookied by the Cats and will join his older brother Cam.

 

Geez he is skinnier than Cale Morton

[Undeeterred 3,124]

On ‎29‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 5:43 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

The basket ball in the US is interesting

I think they need one year in College. In the past drafting was done at the end of college. In recent years starting with Carmelo Anthony (IIRC) the stars have been disappearing to the NBA after year 1. (Money and risk of injury are the main drivers).

On the other hand NFL requires that you have been out of high school for three years

(Just looked up NBA... they require one year post high school and a minimum age of 19 years.)

Not so worried about them being pinched by other sports. If anything it might improve our cricket stocks but that is only a very few players. Soccer... the kids start at under ten at the latest. Hard to see an Australian Rules player changing to the round ball code

If that's the case, it has changed. Kids have been drafted straight out of high school for years (Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant are the best known examples that jump to mind)