11 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Their whole club should have been banned last year.

 

And no way should they have been rewarded with Pick# 5&6  last year or Pick#1 this year.

This Danny Corcoran fella is a genius.

Really knows how to run a football club-

into the ground.

I have little sympathy for any of them.

His call of PTSD demeans soldiers and those who have experienced real trauma or grief.

What JH experienced was a total loss of respect and credibility stoked by an ego that has never been in check.

I noticed his egotism when I first saw him interviewed.

His ego took him right up but he wasn't ready for the fall.

A total lack any introspective insight leads to insanity or prison , or worse.

52 minutes ago, Biffen said:

This Danny Corcoran fella is a genius.

One of Hird's many mistakes...

Well we have a record there is not one story in today's HUN about the Golden one.

On 1/14/2017 at 2:11 PM, Biffen said:

This Danny Corcoran fella is a genius.

Really knows how to run a football club-

into the ground.

I have little sympathy for any of them.

His call of PTSD demeans soldiers and those who have experienced real trauma or grief.

What JH experienced was a total loss of respect and credibility stoked by an ego that has never been in check.

I noticed his egotism when I first saw him interviewed.

His ego took him right up but he wasn't ready for the fall.

A total lack any introspective insight leads to insanity or prison , or worse.

Ego and lack of insight are the key words. 

21 minutes ago, old dee said:

Well we have a record there is not one story in today's HUN about the Golden one.

There still is online. Good old Bomber Thompson having a swipe at the AFL again saying how badly treated they all were. 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/patrick-smith/james-hird-has-plotted-his-own-tragic-course/news-story/52b8eee1cdb4885b25381990e78b7283

 

Aaaand its a truth bomb

Eleven full packets left, dog got hold of one....

9 minutes ago, biggestred said:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/patrick-smith/james-hird-has-plotted-his-own-tragic-course/news-story/52b8eee1cdb4885b25381990e78b7283

 

Aaaand its a truth bomb

Excellent summation.

13 minutes ago, biggestred said:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/patrick-smith/james-hird-has-plotted-his-own-tragic-course/news-story/52b8eee1cdb4885b25381990e78b7283

 

Aaaand its a truth bomb

It is funny reading in the comments that even after Patrick points out the difference between the governance penalties and the banned substance penalties, there is still an individual called Ruth who is completely confused about the goings on what which hearing was for what. No surprise she is a Hird fan. 

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

It is funny reading in the comments that even after Patrick points out the difference between the governance penalties and the banned substance penalties, there is still an individual called Ruth who is completely confused about the goings on what which hearing was for what. No surprise she is a Hird fan. 

I first came across the article where it had been posted on twitter.... the replies! People saying patrick should be charged with attempted murder and stuff. Honestly im now dumber for reading them

2 minutes ago, biggestred said:

I first came across the article where it had been posted on twitter.... the replies! People saying patrick should be charged with attempted murder and stuff. Honestly im now dumber for reading them

It is the new year br we are all allowed a couple of errors at this time.

 

On 14/01/2017 at 2:41 PM, Biffen said:

This Danny Corcoran fella is a genius.

Really knows how to run a football club-

into the ground.

I have little sympathy for any of them.

His call of PTSD demeans soldiers and those who have experienced real trauma or grief.

What JH experienced was a total loss of respect and credibility stoked by an ego that has never been in check.

I noticed his egotism when I first saw him interviewed.

His ego took him right up but he wasn't ready for the fall.

A total lack any introspective insight leads to insanity or prison , or worse.

He did play an integral role in a couple of flags

Hi Patrick.. How's it going ?

The Australian article is worth the read.  Not an apologist's arse wipe, like the other drivel about this case.

When Hird took full responsibility he was on the right path.  His advisers swooped in an whispered in his ear.  He has not won a single appeal.  He looks like a sullen schoolboy, now playing the victim.  All of these idiots should have given him better counsel, rather than trying to turn him into a martyr on his death bed (or ICU bed).

7 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

The Australian article is worth the read.  Not an apologist's arse wipe, like the other drivel about this case.

When Hird took full responsibility he was on the right path.  His advisers swooped in an whispered in his ear.  He has not won a single appeal.  He looks like a sullen schoolboy, now playing the victim.  All of these idiots should have given him better counsel, rather than trying to turn him into a martyr on his death bed (or ICU bed).

Agree, it seems he has been very poorly advised...

...then again it could be that he would only listen to what he wanted to hear and wouldn't pay any regard to anyone with a differing view.

Maybe he surrounded himself with sycophants.

4 minutes ago, rjay said:

Agree, it seems he has been very poorly advised...

...then again it could be that he would only listen to what he wanted to hear and wouldn't pay any regard to anyone with a differing view.

Maybe he surrounded himself with sycophants.

Or a wife with little idea!

 

A quote from the Goebbels's diaries. Applicable to Hird and his apologists or even the AFL. Only needs minor editing. 

 

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Edited January 16, 20178 yr by america de cali

1 hour ago, america de cali said:

 

A quote from the Goebbels's diaries. Applicable to Hird and his apologists or even the AFL. Only needs minor editing. 

 

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Citing Goebbels is somewhat of a quantum leap.  He was after all the person in charge of propaganda in a Nazi regime.  

Teetering on the edge.......

31 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Citing Goebbels is somewhat of a quantum leap.  He was after all the person in charge of propaganda in a Nazi regime.  

Not really. Rule applies to everything where power, money, ego and influence is at stake.

Edited January 16, 20178 yr by america de cali

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Or a wife with little idea!

Tania just preferred to bask in the reflected glory of being married to an AFL golden boy than a drug cheat.
Tried to do whatever it took to maintain the former.

Edited January 16, 20178 yr by Fork 'em

On 14/01/2017 at 1:41 PM, Biffen said:

This Danny Corcoran fella is a genius.

Really knows how to run a football club-

into the ground.

I have little sympathy for any of them.

His call of PTSD demeans soldiers and those who have experienced real trauma or grief.

What JH experienced was a total loss of respect and credibility stoked by an ego that has never been in check.

I noticed his egotism when I first saw him interviewed.

His ego took him right up but he wasn't ready for the fall.

A total lack any introspective insight leads to insanity or prison , or worse.

 

9 hours ago, hemingway said:

Ego and lack of insight are the key words. 

 

 

so•ci•o•path

 (ˈsoʊ si əˌpæθ, ˈsoʊ ʃi-) 

n. 

a person, as a psychopath, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

 

4 hours ago, america de cali said:

 

A quote from the Goebbels's diaries. Applicable to Hird and his apologists or even the AFL. Only needs minor editing. 

 

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

 

3 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Citing Goebbels is somewhat of a quantum leap.  He was after all the person in charge of propaganda in a Nazi regime.  

Whilst I cannot speak for him, I very much doubt that adc is equating Essendonism with National Socialism aka Naziism, but the use and repetition of the big lie is a point in common with Herr Geobells and with many sociopathic narcissists, those at Essendon, and AFLHQ included.   It is also very common in Canberra, which interestingly is where the Golden Boy heralded from, if I recall correctly. 

Edited January 16, 20178 yr by monoccular

On 1/14/2017 at 2:41 PM, Biffen said:

This Danny Corcoran fella is a genius.

Really knows how to run a football club-

into the ground.

I have little sympathy for any of them.

His call of PTSD demeans soldiers and those who have experienced real trauma or grief.

What JH experienced was a total loss of respect and credibility stoked by an ego that has never been in check.

I noticed his egotism when I first saw him interviewed.

His ego took him right up but he wasn't ready for the fall.

A total lack any introspective insight leads to insanity or prison , or worse.

Biffen, one of your best posts !!

9 hours ago, biggestred said:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/opinion/patrick-smith/james-hird-has-plotted-his-own-tragic-course/news-story/52b8eee1cdb4885b25381990e78b7283

 

Aaaand its a truth bomb

Patrick Smith was once a feared fast bowler for Prahran! 

Now a feared Journo who has just aced the JACK!