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22 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

Look out !!!!! 

Drug cheat alert!! 

Worsfold states " The bombers are building ' chemistry ' in their forward line." 

Didn't they try that before. ???

And Worsfold would be just the person to work the chemistry to perfection.

 

STOP PRESS - could the cricket saga have come t a better time for the EFC drug cheats?  

They have handed on the mantle of "the darkest moment in Australian sport" to Cricket Oz.

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    Bancroft's press conference was an example of what we should have got from the Essendon players.

    It goes a long way in healing the hurt suffered by the Australian public.

    I will have no problem welcoming him back to cricket when he has served his suspension.

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    I cannot see the justification for the mods closing the thread about the Essendrug scandal.  The justification seems to be that there were a couple of posts about the cricket cheating which should have been in a seperate thread and that there is nothing more to be said about Essendon.  Strange when there are current court proceedings on the topic.      Please reopen.

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    Thirded, for same reasons...

    The fat lady hasn't sung plus the cricket situation, the cultural implications & how it's being handled is very relevant to the EFC one.

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    I don’t like seeing a thread about that filthy club on our main board, hide it away somewhere if people are wanting to talk about it, main board should be for MFC Content only same goes for the cricket 

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    and btw, mods, the cricket thread in general forum seems corrupted

    if i select next unread or last post i get an error code. been this way for a number of days

    may just be me, for some reason, but can someone have a look at it please?

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    11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    and btw, mods, the cricket thread in general forum seems corrupted

     

     

    It's only trying to keep pace with the modern game!

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    Whenever I log on to Demonland and see the Fat Lady thread, I am drawn to open it before everything else.  

    It has always contained some excellent information and spectacular abuse.

    The only sensible alternative to closing it would be perhaps to open a "I hate Essendon because they are a pack of arceholes" thread.

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    Lehman has done the right thing in stepping down as coach.

    It's a pity Hird didn't do the same and accept responsibility for what happened on his watch.

    This whole business would have been done and dusted long ago if he had.

     

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    Both captain and coach took full responsibility, even though it seems the key offender was Warner. But as leaders they recognise that with the prestige of their positions and the big bucks, comes ultimate responsibility for both good and bad. 

    Yes what a stark contrast to Hird. 

    Steve Smith (and Bancroft) will be welcomed back, in large, by the Australian public with open arms after serving suspension. Redemption and forgiveness will be theirs. 

    I wonder through hird’s iron clad ego, if he reflects on how things could have been.

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    If the AFL ran international cricket ...

    Demetriou would have called Lehmann and Smith telling them they were about to  be nailed

    Bancroft would have been made to swallow the sandpaper

    There would be no charge of ball tampering. The whole thing would be put down to governance failures

    Smith would be sent to France for a year on a management study course

    Lehmann would score a gig with a management consultancy firm

    Warner would spend a year in New York learning to be a barista

    Smith would eventually present the Alan Border medal

    Everything would be the fault of the media. The players would all be brave, hard done by,

    Some numpty would sue the ICC

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    2 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

    If the AFL ran international cricket ...

    Demetriou would have called Lehmann and Smith telling them they were about to  be nailed

    Bancroft would have been made to swallow the sandpaper

    There would be no charge of ball tampering. The whole thing would be put down to governance failures

    Smith would be sent to France for a year on a management study course

    Lehmann would score a gig with a management consultancy firm

    Warner would spend a year in New York learning to be a barista

    Smith would eventually present the Alan Border medal

    Everything would be the fault of the media. The players would all be brave, hard done by,

    Some numpty would sue the ICC

    Funny if it was not so true MR!

    Remember that no one actually saw the sandpaper being used. It was merely in Bancroft's pocket like the stuff in the Bomber's fridge. Oh what a great tribunal the AFL put together !

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    It should be noted that the ex-captain is no angel ... he's confrontational as well and often spoke to his own players and the umpires in a rude and ill-manner way.  Verified by players from other countries.

    But these professional sportspeople often live in a bubble and are often blissfully unaware of the consequences of their actions - until it is too late.  Then the tears flow - feeling sorry for themselves because of their own stupid actions. 

    As always,  the whole story needs to be told and nothing conveniently left out ... as an example we got off very lightly with our own involvement with Dank.  As it turned out the doctors involved with the club were dispensed with but looked at in isolation,  we were very lucky that the focus was on Essendon during the drugs scandal. 

    'Moving On' hey ... not this time.  I hate that overused phrase anyway.  It's like that other one "It is what it is" ... code for 'Can we talk about something else?'

    With the cricket thread being down at the moment this is the only thread where we can express our views so here's a view from the outside that is worth listening to  BBC Podcast - Australian Cricket Scandal

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    32 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Looks like another mess the AFL is involved in...

    I hope we aren't into this stuff yet.

    The company says it's approved the AFL chief doc say not.

    Will the AFL and clubs ever learn?

    https://smallcaps.com.au/afl-teams-paradigm-biopharma-pain-relieving-medication/

    More in the Herald Sun that I don't have access to.

    Hmm just heard Whateley talking about this

    Very Messy

    ”Hello Gill....Sleep well?”

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    Not sure I see where the "mess" is. It's supposedly not on any banned list and looks like it's being tested by actual scientist/medicos.

    It seems to fit more into the pain relief category than the performance boost category.

    If it's suss the AFL can ban it.

    Whateley's nose for this kind of news is way off anyway. He tried to wave away the EFC drug scandal, and don't try to talk to him about Damien Oliver. You'll hear a whooshing sound from how quickly he changes the subject.

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    19 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

    Not sure I see where the "mess" is. It's supposedly not on any banned list and looks like it's being tested by actual scientist/medicos.

    It seems to fit more into the pain relief category than the performance boost category.

    If it's suss the AFL can ban it.

    Whateley's nose for this kind of news is way off anyway. He tried to wave away the EFC drug scandal, and don't try to talk to him about Damien Oliver. You'll hear a whooshing sound from how quickly he changes the subject.

    I hope you are right. 4 clubs involved in a drug scandal would be a huge problem

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    On 3/25/2018 at 12:30 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

    None of the Australian’s should ever wear a Baggy Green again 

    they were all in on it. 

    Should all be sent home today. 

    Australians won’t watch cheats

    They loved Warnie forever and he was done twice was he not?

    Blows your argument out of the water.

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    On 3/31/2018 at 8:48 PM, Moonshadow said:

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    A perfect cheat would never get caught..... just sayin....

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    1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

    They loved Warnie forever and he was done twice was he not?

    Blows your argument out of the water.

    Who are they?

    my opinion is mine. 

    If any of the 3 Cheats play for Australia again, i will support the opposition. 

    The Cheating in South Africa was a premeditated plan, Warne just F$&@ked up. 

    2 different scenarios

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    In the match fixing thing, Warne and Waugh were careless and thick-witted and were 5 minutes from being sucked into Hansie Cronje territory. They deserved to go for stupidity if nothing else. Can reasonably be seen as a F$&@k up.

    In the diuretic thing, after Warne missed games with a shoulder injury, his mum didn't tell him to back off the baked beans and chips and maybe hit the jogging machine. No, she (renowned sports scientist that she is) advised him to take a "weight loss" tablet which "just happened" to be a masking agent for steroids, which just happen to be great for recovering from shoulder injuries. I don't buy that that was a F$&@k up.

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    7 hours ago, rjay said:

    Looks like another mess the AFL is involved in...

    I hope we aren't into this stuff yet.

    The company says it's approved the AFL chief doc say not.

    Will the AFL and clubs ever learn?

    https://smallcaps.com.au/afl-teams-paradigm-biopharma-pain-relieving-medication/

    More in the Herald Sun that I don't have access to.

     

    6 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

    Not sure I see where the "mess" is. It's supposedly not on any banned list and looks like it's being tested by actual scientist/medicos.

    It seems to fit more into the pain relief category than the performance boost category.

    If it's suss the AFL can ban it.

    Whateley's nose for this kind of news is way off anyway. He tried to wave away the EFC drug scandal, and don't try to talk to him about Damien Oliver. You'll hear a whooshing sound from how quickly he changes the subject.

    After hearing the chief of the company involved it seems more like the AFL playing funny buggers here.

    Everything seems above board on the company end, not sure what the AFL agenda is but he is getting the don't call us routine from Dill...

    Who would have thought.

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    8 minutes ago, rjay said:

    After hearing the chief of the company involved it seems more like the AFL playing funny buggers here.

    Everything seems above board on the company end, not sure what the AFL agenda is but he is getting the don't call us routine from Dill...

    Who would have thought.

    The thing I found odd from the article is that while they have the ok to use it, the product is still to be fully tested and is not on the market ye,t so the 40 to 50 AFL players are being used as guinea pigs. 

    Clearly, the product is not illegal but hopefully club doctors have told those 40 to 50 players any potential side affects etc.

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