2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/trent-cotchins-show-of-respect-to-jobe-watson-before-2012-brownlow-medal-handover/news-story/efa34588fe750031ee718abcbe3503b6

An interesting piece of intrigue:  "...as the AFL still refused to say where Watson’s medal was and whether he had given it back".

That has a hollow ring of truth - if it was given back they would say so, right? 

Probably part of the 'deal', something like - no problem, Jobe, yeah just tell the media you will give it back but tuck Charlie away in a bottom draw for a while and keep it quiet.

Set up right there for some future amnesty and 'return' of the medal to 'poor Jobe'...probably to coincide with his intro to he "Hall of Shame Fame".

The AFL are truly a disgrace.  Many of us have said it on DL, if it wasn't for the love of the Dees I would give AFL away.  

 

100% of the reason I am still interested LH.

Otherwise I would be following the Amos.

9 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Rather, it's pretty clear what you think Mitchell thinks.

It's possible that Mitchell detests Jobe; that Mitchell likes Jobe and feels any discussion is unhelpful; that Mitchell has decided that private conversations should remain private; that Mitchell had always intended speaking to Jobe after the awards ceremony; that Mitchell had spoken to Jobe and made a promise not to speak to the media; that Mitchell was sorry and embarrassed for his 'syringe mime' and therefore didn't want to be reminded of that should any comment he make result in him being asked about it. I could go on.

Mitchell actually said he had not spoken to Jobe.

There is more evidence to support my proposition than the 'possibilities' presented in that post.

 

Edited December 14, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Sam McLure in The Age saying Watson hasn't returned the medal and claims he's not sure of its whereabouts. Yeah, right.

HAND IT BACK JOBE!

"But after Watson decided – in his own words – to "hand it back" and the commission unanimously voted to give medals to runners-up Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin, the medal should have been returned. The fact that there are now three 2012 Brownlow Medals in circulation is a testament to the sheer absurdity of the situation."

Edited December 14, 20168 yr by Moonshadow

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Sam McLure in The Age saying Watson hasn't returned the medal and claims he's not sure of its whereabouts. Yeah, right.

HAND IT BACK JOBE!

"But after Watson decided – in his own words – to "hand it back" and the commission unanimously voted to give medals to runners-up Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin, the medal should have been returned. The fact that there are now three 2012 Brownlow Medals in circulation is a testament to the sheer absurdity of the situation."

Jab shall cop so much next year

Deserves every bit of it. 

 

Cheat

So Jobe's refusing to give back the actual medal?

Makes his pathetic pontificating about how much he was a man of honour and intergrity even more vomit-worthy, if he cut one of Gil's famous deals to keep the medal in exchange for a PR statement.

And makes the AFL even more pathetic. To echo the above, I'd give this corrupt corporation (barely consider it a sport anymore) away were it not for the Dees.

Are we supporters to take it that a Brownlow Medal is missing, not insured presumably, and the AFL does not care. Thereby making it probably the most infamous Medal in History.

Our Footy forefathers would be pleased especially the memories of those War time connections on Anzac Days.

Getting close to a time that a certain Commemorative Foundation should review its participation maybe....

could not make this stuff up

Unbelievable!!

This "comeback story" narrative essendon are pushing makes me sick.

 

They are gonna be rolling it out thick when they play the hawks who will have th actual comeback story playing.... roughy returning from cancer.

 

Yuk.

26 minutes ago, biggestred said:

This "comeback story" narrative essendon are pushing makes me sick.

 

They are gonna be rolling it out thick when they play the hawks who will have th actual comeback story playing.... roughy returning from cancer.

 

Yuk.

The whole thing makes me sick. The entire narrative that News Corp have attempted to form around the Essendon players is disgusting and hypocritical beyond belief.

Says he'll give it back.

Doesn't give it back.

This is 100% consistent with the way the entire journey has unfolded.

Watson should give back the physical medal. But in the overall scheme of things, it's not really that important. The physical medal is just a symbol of the award itself. Cotchin and Mitchell are the worthy winners of the award and whether they had been presented with a physical medal or not will be referred to as such in all the record books and in their personal resumes.

Conversely, just because Watson is still in possession of the physical medal, does anyone here think that means he's still a Brownlow medallist?  

2 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Watson should give back the physical medal. But in the overall scheme of things, it's not really that important. The physical medal is just a symbol of the award itself. Cotchin and Mitchell are the worthy winners of the award and whether they had been presented with a physical medal or not will be referred to as such in all the record books and in their personal resumes.

Conversely, just because Watson is still in possession of the physical medal, does anyone here think that means he's still a Brownlow medallist?  

No, but symbolically it does make a statement about the contrived nature of the AFL, and Watson himself - who said one thing and did another.

You're right the physical medial isn't a massive issue in of itself. But what it says about those surrounding the issue I would argue is quite significant.

The fact that he retains the physical medal is a sly acknowledgement that the AFL don't actually believe he's a drug cheat. It's wrong, and it send the wrong message. It also undermines the symbolic value of the other two (legitimate) medals.

#giveitbackJobe

#dogatemymedal

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Watson should give back the physical medal. But in the overall scheme of things, it's not really that important. The physical medal is just a symbol of the award itself. Cotchin and Mitchell are the worthy winners of the award and whether they had been presented with a physical medal or not will be referred to as such in all the record books and in their personal resumes.

Conversely, just because Watson is still in possession of the physical medal, does anyone here think that means he's still a Brownlow medallist?  

Of course it matters whether Jab has returned his tainted Brownlow. It is not his to keep. Physically or in the Record Books. 

I wish people would stop going soft on this cheat. 

He knew what was going on...

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Of course it matters whether Jab has returned his tainted Brownlow. It is not his to keep. Physically or in the Record Books. 

I wish people would stop going soft on this cheat. 

He knew what was going on...

He couldn't possibly have known.

He is after all, a Top Bloke and Feminist.

Brownlow medals increase in monetary value with age. Jobe's hand-back medal is notorious and may become quite the collectors item. It no longer belongs to him. He should have no ability to gain from it ever.

 

If anyone was in any doubt about his being a drug cheat, his not returning the physical medal because he 'doesn't know where it is' should set your mind at rest and remove any doubts about his propensity to cheat.   If the AFL does not demand it back (and preferably melt it down so it does not become an expensive collectors item) it will be yet more evidence that the AFL has no integrity.

Who is the winning Brownlow Medalist in this year's Millers Guide? i do not have a copy of this Grail.....

Sorry i meant that year....

Jobe - the beds are burning (and your ears no doubt after today, s Age article) - its time to give it back

Imbed link to MO clip here

41 minutes ago, sue said:

If anyone was in any doubt about his being a drug cheat, his not returning the physical medal because he 'doesn't know where it is' should set your mind at rest and remove any doubts about his propensity to cheat.   If the AFL does not demand it back (and preferably melt it down so it does not become an expensive collectors item) it will be yet  

Perhaps I am naive, but until now, I did not realise that the medal had not been physically handed back.  I agree with the above and more so, that the AFL has basically neutered itself through years of inaction on integrity matters.  In other words, grow some gonads AFL.

1 hour ago, Choke said:

He couldn't possibly have known.

He is after all, a Top Bloke and Feminist.

Yes you are so right...Jab is the model citizen.....

1 hour ago, sue said:

If anyone was in any doubt about his being a drug cheat, his not returning the physical medal because he 'doesn't know where it is' should set your mind at rest and remove any doubts about his propensity to cheat.   If the AFL does not demand it back (and preferably melt it down so it does not become an expensive collectors item) it will be yet more evidence that the AFL has no integrity.

The AFL has no integrity....