2 hours ago, demonboys said:

What are our chances with Hartlett as he is a straight out superstar?

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Superstar? No. Not even remotely.

2 hours ago, demonboys said:

What are our chances with Hartlett as he is a straight out superstar?

I'm not sure Hamish, you tell us. 

He signed for some huge amount, i suspect if any club is to take Hamish the Power would still need to foot 50% of the bill, he's simply not worth the big dollars he's on based on current output, i think he has talent and could be worth that if he played at his absolute best consistently but it hasn't happened yet. 

Reported last night he was $700K and Port has to clear the cap with a lot of players on high long term deals.

14 hours ago, Abe said:

I suspect Harlett will go to the Giants who have plenty of picks and where he'd be an icing on the cake type and his weapons will become more dangerous

They won't have the cap space 

28 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Reported last night he was $700K and Port has to clear the cap with a lot of players on high long term deals.

what ridiculous wages!!

sounds like he held them to ransom last year, signed on for 5 years and played a terrible year.  

Stay well clear Dees

56 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

Reported last night he was $700K and Port has to clear the cap with a lot of players on high long term deals.

If that is the case, then I'll be interested to see what the market is for him.  If Port really do need to offload him as they need the cap space, then they might ship him off for a cut price deal to get him off their books if there isn't much interest in him early on.

I'm not saying we should seriously look at getting him in, but if they get desperate then their view of getting a first round pick for him might not come to fruition.

12 hours ago, SaberFang said:

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Superstar? No. Not even remotely.

So a club wants to sell an out and out superstar, as they try to repair?

 

Pass.

methinks there must be more to this hartlett story......it doesn't add up

On 2 September 2016 at 4:00 AM, DubDee said:

See him as a better version of Sylvia. Constantly teases and looks like he should be a gun but does not deliver consistently. He was putrid in some games this year. 

He looks better in a top team but would not help us much at the moment imo. 

 

47 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Something certainly stinks at Port Adelaide.

This whole scenario really cements the rumours about Hartlett and Boak from earlier in the year though. Explains their woeful performances, too.

Could all this mean that he is seriously pi55ed off with them for some reason (other than his huge pay check) and a change of scenery / teammates is all he needs?  Does he hate the coach or someone in the team? Certainly the club would need to do due diligence but our current administration and recruiting teams are very different from yesteryear  

The comparison with Sylvia isn't quite there: Col never put together several consecutive top seasons, let alone top games.  

On 9/2/2016 at 11:40 AM, Abe said:

There must be an issue with him, he's a bloody talented player and despite having an average year surely considering they signed him for what 5 years they have to back themselves to get him right

trading him just seems weird.

Get the Richmond medics to have a look at him. That's one thing they seem to be able to do........

i can't remember an off-season when there were this many quality mids potentially on the market.  Mitchell, Prestia, O'Meara and Hartlett.  Sure last year quality was higher with Dangerfield and Treloar, but that's 4 decent players - maybe it's the new normal?

I'm keen on Hartlett, he can definitely play and both outside and inside (decent contested, clearance and tackle numbers) - I think he fits our need more than Mitchell or Prestia and is a safer option than O'Meara.  At 26 he's in a good age bracket - we're light on in the 25-28 bracket next year with just Gawn, Melksham, Watts, Jetta, Garlett and Hibberd as regular selections in there.  That bracket will all be there when this group challenge for the flag.

I think we could conjure a deal with Port involving our 2017 1st.

How does trading contracted players work?

If we traded for him, and agreed to pay him say $400k per season, would Port have to pick up the remaining $300k to fufill Hartlett's contract?

14 minutes ago, JTR said:

How does trading contracted players work?

If we traded for him, and agreed to pay him say $400k per season, would Port have to pick up the remaining $300k to fufill Hartlett's contract?

Yes Port would have to agree to that. Like when we had to pay to send Woey to the pies....

27 minutes ago, JTR said:

How does trading contracted players work?

If we traded for him, and agreed to pay him say $400k per season, would Port have to pick up the remaining $300k to fufill Hartlett's contract?

I don't think $700k is confirmed is it?

Anyway the smaller share we pay, the higher pick we have to give and vice versa.

Would much prefer Prestia or Mitchell than the injury-prone and questionable leadership of HH. He's inconsistent and really isn't a better long term option or even short term option than those two, IMO.

In hindsight Stuie is right - we shouldn't be participating in rumour mongering about players private lives. I've deleted all those posts including my own.

26 minutes ago, A F said:

Would much prefer Prestia or Mitchell than the injury-prone and questionable leadership of HH. He's inconsistent and really isn't a better long term option or even short term option than those two, IMO.

Hartlett: 2012 -15 games, 2013 - 22 games, 2014 - 22 games, 2015 - 22 games, 2016 - 15 games.  Data doesn't support "injury prone".

Wonder what you thought of Bernie before he came across?

16 minutes ago, Nasher said:

In hindsight Stuie is right - we shouldn't be participating in rumour mongering about players private lives. I've deleted all those posts including my own.

Nash, is it OK to talk about Mitch Clark & depression? Is it OK to talk about Scully and his family? Is it OK to talk about Damian Martin and his chopsticks? Is it OK to talk about Paul Roos going to Hawaii?

6 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Nash, is it OK to talk about Mitch Clark & depression? Is it OK to talk about Scully and his family? Is it OK to talk about Damian Martin and his chopsticks? Is it OK to talk about Paul Roos going to Hawaii?

Spreading rumours and talking about factual public information are different things.

 

1 minute ago, stuie said:

Spreading rumours and talking about factual public information are different things.

 

How do we know fact from fiction? Certainly the media are guilty of making things up. How do you know that some posters aren't posting facts?

Just now, ManDee said:

How do we know fact from fiction? Certainly the media are guilty of making things up. How do you know that some posters aren't posting facts?

Well firstly, the post started with "the rumour was"....

 

23 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Hartlett: 2012 -15 games, 2013 - 22 games, 2014 - 22 games, 2015 - 22 games, 2016 - 15 games.  Data doesn't support "injury prone".

Wonder what you thought of Bernie before he came across?

Let's go with questionable leadership and inconsistent performance then. That's enough for me.

The Port leadership group has question marks over it. What is it that HH will bring that we'd want to give up a 2017 first rounder for?

2 minutes ago, A F said:

Let's go with questionable leadership and inconsistent performance then. That's enough for me.

The Port leadership group has question marks over it. What is it that HH will bring that we'd want to give up a 2017 first rounder for?

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2 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Page scrolling broken?

Yeah, I read it. I just disagree.