Tom Rockliff

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

I think Hawthorn may have well and truly put the final nail in the dynasty coffin.

I can't see players playing for unders just to keep the band together anymore...

GWS will be raided harder and will lose some of their A grade talent, unfortunately we will have the same problem.

I think it might be one flag and then show me the money from now on.

It's funny as at times this year I thought Hodgey looked the lesser of the big 3 (Lewis and Mitchell). He spent a lot more time across as the sweeper off the backline. Yet he stays and the other 2 gone.

[stuie 7,374]

5 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

It's funny as at times this year I thought Hodgey looked the lesser of the big 3 (Lewis and Mitchell). He spent a lot more time across as the sweeper off the backline. Yet he stays and the other 2 gone.

Trade period is still young....

 

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

8 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Demons "cooling" apparently an issue with medical. Shoulder related. 

I'm calling BS on that. Shoulders have never been a reason to avoid a player, look at Judd.

[Generation dee 1,336]

Just now, GawnWithTheWind said:

I'm calling BS on that. Shoulders have never been a reason to avoid a player, look at Judd.

Thanks Doctor.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

 

9 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Demons "cooling" apparently an issue with medical. Shoulder related. 

lol, didn't pick this!

On 15/10/2016 at 6:25 PM, Vogon Poetry said:

It's not smart knowing we might be looking and it's not hard to put forward a scenario that looks possible and then at the end of trade period say "it fell over because Dunn wouldn't go or Brisbane couldn't get a pick in the 30's or simply we changed our mind - but the information was right at the time".

It's rubbish IMO and the identification of sources shows he wanted to in some way validate it.  It's 95% likely he's having a good laugh at DL now.

[Ted Lasso 16,972]

12 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Demons "cooling" apparently an issue with medical. Shoulder related. 

Interesting, that's not what i am hearing.

[Die Hard Demon 1,152]

1 minute ago, Abe said:

Interesting, that's not what i am hearing.

What are you hearing?

[Generation dee 1,336]

1 minute ago, Vogon Poetry said:

 

lol, didn't pick this!

Posters like you are the reason many don't pass on information. All good, demon land can go on without me. 

Had enough of the  inbox messages and posts like yours. Enjoy when you get no information at all! 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

5 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

 

lol, didn't pick this!

What's wrong with passing on information?

[Die Hard Demon 1,152]

If Rocky was having a medical with the Dees. Surelyyyy this would have been reported by now.

[Ted Lasso 16,972]

4 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

What are you hearing?

Something different  

just not heard anything to suggest we've either cooled or the Lions have said no.

[ManDee 7,091]

3 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Posters like you are the reason many don't pass on information. All good, demon land can go on without me. 

Had enough of the  inbox messages and posts like yours. Enjoy when you get no information at all! 

GD, it is so easy to be a perpetual cynic. Best to ignore them, they soak up all the positive and then claim credit. effem

Thanks for your input. 

[stuie 7,374]

Interesting that as of 16 hours ago he was out on a boat somewhere sunny and tropical... Wonder when he found time to do the medical in Melbourne?

 

Edited October 17, 2016 by stuie

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

10 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

 

lol, didn't pick this!

Geez mate, my uncle was CEO of the club and the amount of 'we are chasing so and so', we are having a meeting with whatsizname' or 'we are confident of this happening' that never happened would look like a phone book. On the other hand the amount of last minute, left field things that did happen would almost fill one too. This time of the year is musical chairs. Nothing is done until the ink is dry.

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

Generation Dee is back peddling at an alarming rate... There goes your cred.

[Dommy_02 3]

I was under the impression yesterday that Rockliff was set to be finalised or completed today or tomorrow... now it sounds very unlikely that he'll come to us. How did this occur?? Has there been any major movements i've missed or was it generally an unreliable rumour?

[Demonland 65,976]

6 minutes ago, Uncle Fester said:

Geez mate, my uncle was CEO of the club and the amount of 'we are chasing so and so', we are having a meeting with whatsizname' or 'we are confident of this happening' that never happened would look like a phone book. On the other hand the amount of last minute, left field things that did happen would almost fill one too. This time of the year is musical chairs. Nothing is done until the ink is dry.

http://youtu.be/H1vovyWJuRI

[Dommy_02 3]

If Hibberd goes through for our future second round pick and Lewis for a late pick (44)... how does Rockliff not happen for 23 and Dunn? Isn't it fair for both parties? Obviously i don't know the situation each clubs are in, just a thought..

Edited October 17, 2016 by Dommy_02

[Wiseblood 24,636]

12 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Posters like you are the reason many don't pass on information. All good, demon land can go on without me. 

Had enough of the  inbox messages and posts like yours. Enjoy when you get no information at all! 

GD - While the messages you've received are over the top, and people like Vogon Poetry just like the sound of their own keyboard, you need to understand that when you put info out there that you'll get all sorts of reactions.  If that info turns out to be wrong, or it changes, then you also need to understand that some posters will give it to you.  Just look at someone like GNF - he cops verbal diarrhea from select posters but he still comes back with info from time to time.

If you don't like the reactions then, by all means, keep the info to yourself.  But if you do put it out there then you need to be ready for everything that goes with it.  Cheers.

[BLWNBA 366]

Don't necessarily buy into this whole 'attitude problem'. 

If had played for the Lions for that long, I'd have an attitude problem too. They're a basket case. It's no suprise that poor performing clubs seem to be synonomous with poor culture and players with 'attitude'. Look at us circa 2007-2014. The Blues of that period too. 

I'd be inclined to take a punt on him. Although a slightly different situation, Roos was able to get the best out of Mcglynn at Sydney and he was touted as having a poor cultural stigma. I see no reason why Rockliff wouldn't do the same for us. 

Major issue that I see is his contract, but if Brisbane were that desperate to offload him and retain a minimum salary cap, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to pay a portion of the contract, maybe even around 40%. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

10 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Generation Dee is back peddling at an alarming rate... There goes your cred.

This has been bothering me for a long time.

If someone is blatantly making up rumours then then they have no credibility, but if they are simply passing on what they are hearing then it's not their fault if it doesn't eventuate.

EDIT: This is of course assuming that it is reasonable that who they are getting the information from is likely to have accurate information in the first place.

Edited October 17, 2016 by Clint Bizkit

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

https://youtu.be/H1vovyWJuRI

Ouch! lol. And yes, that's the sort of thing I meant. Painful to spruik like that before you've even spoken to the other club though.

 

Richmond. Making all other teams look competent since 1982

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

7 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

This has been bothering me for a long time.

If someone is blatantly making up rumours then then they have no credibility, but if they are simply passing on what they are hearing then it's not their fault if it doesn't eventuate.

EDIT: This is of course assuming that it is reasonable that who they are getting the information from is likely to have accurate information in the first place.

If you are willing to pass on information from your source, you become not reliable if your source is not reliable. Its pretty simple.

Edited October 17, 2016 by GawnWithTheWind

[hardtack 10,127]

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

GD - While the messages you've received are over the top, and people like Vogon Poetry just like the sound of their own keyboard, you need to understand that when you put info out there that you'll get all sorts of reactions.  If that info turns out to be wrong, or it changes, then you also need to understand that some posters will give it to you.  Just look at someone like GNF - he cops verbal diarrhea from select posters but he still comes back with info from time to time.

If you don't like the reactions then, by all means, keep the info to yourself.  But if you do put it out there then you need to be ready for everything that goes with it.  Cheers.

That's a bit harsh... GNF was considered questionable on his Hogan claims as they were essentially just repeating what had been in the press a couple of days previous to his comments.  Generation Dee in my opinion does NOT deserve criticism because he has actually come up with a previously unheard "rumour" that he was prepared to give substance to by alluding to his sources... a big difference.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Just now, GawnWithTheWind said:

If you are willing to pass on information from your source, you become reliable if your source is not reliable. Its pretty simple.

You could get the information from the player himself and things could still change, is that not reliable information?