ANB I'm afraid is too slow to make it. In the same boat as Trenners, Michie and Newton. Vanders may be in the same category. 

27 minutes ago, Mickey said:

I think the players still look to someone else when things go wrong. The lose confidence and struggle to get it back. We need a strong leader with match winning capability, who drags everyone with them. Jonesy has done heaps for this club, and is a good captain, but not outstanding. Viney and Gawn aren't there yet. 

I don't think we can trade this in, because that calibre of player rarely comes on the market, and when he did he chose geelong. We can develop it, but it will take time

Hogan and an early pick for Fyfe (provided he passes all the fitness tests)?

17 minutes ago, A F said:

Isn't that just pathetic?

Yes it is. They all have similar game styles. They seem to be able to go coast to coast against us with fast outside running.

6 minutes ago, stuie said:

Yeah gotcha. I think he picks and chooses when to put in effort, and that's what I don't like. eg - Chance for a mark = good effort. Opportunity to shepherd or tackle = barely any effort.

 

 

He has laid 2 tackles in his last five games. For the tea leaf readers he laid a seasons high of 5 tackles against Freo.

8 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Bernie needed a week off. Could see that in last week's match

Bernie should be playing on Dangerfield next week, just as he should have been on Gibbs today.

4 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Hogan and an early pick for Fyfe (provided he passes all the fitness tests)?

On the basis that we can relax because we have Weideman who got seven possessions today?

 

1 hour ago, 3Dee said:

You're welcome, NORTH MELBOURNE 2016 PREMIERS

I think the umps have money on them.....0 in the first qtr. 2 up to half time ?

We Choked.

 

Team today looked really tired, that said. Wet, slippery and scrimmages, yes. Free kicks paid for push in backs, maybe one. Free kicks paid for kicking in danger, nil. Free kicks paid for throws, nil. Voting for (Nth Melbourne) Umpires, Little League 4. Main Game Umpires, numerical Category score, not fit for Little League.

Five minutes into that game when two of the fairest players question decisions like Max and Dom you know the AFL have been making calls and giving out lolly bags

Well at least I didn't preemptively buy tickets for the Geelong game.

Edited August 21, 20169 yr by Emerald

21 minutes ago, america de cali said:

He may have taken 14 marks but did bugger all with the ball, slow decision making and zero defensive efforts. We would have structured up better with Pederson instead of him and Weiderman as well as the rest of the forward line would have been the better for it. Hogan's adds very little to our forward structure.

He is probably preferring to play higher up the ground due to the lack of confidence in his kicking de cali. Pedo would have straitened us up IMO and offered a target for the mids, seeing them play more direct wet weather footy instead of chipping it around, hesitating so much and over using the pill due to not enough targets/structure up forward.

Watts has had 2 pretty ordinary matches as well at the wrong end of the season which hasn't helped.

Would play Hogan off HB from here until/unless he changes/improves his kicking action. Sucks the life out of the whole team IMO when you miss that many chances. Cloke a good example. By playing him off HB you are still saying he has value ....but that kicking! Fix it or you're backman. Rest Frost who has had two very tired/ordinary games now and bring in Pedo (AGAIN lol)

16 minutes ago, stuie said:

If you go back and have a look at the context of the criticism it might make more sense. "ProDee" as usual took any chance to absolute rubbish Watts for missing an easy goal. Hogan missed 3, yet he was defending him to the hilt.

 

ProDee took a chance to rubbish Jack Watts? No! 

Arrogant & lazy, every time this group are favorites they collapse.

Also cannot believe that coaches allow these guys to go out playing with wrong boots or even more fundamental, that dont tell them to stop dry weather football when pissing down rain, ....handball, handball, drop ball turnover, ever going backwards.....when all they have to do is kick ball immediately anyway possible, off ground, anyway get forward.

Give up for another year. 

Am 67 now, will I ever see another grand final???

 

2 minutes ago, tonyh said:

Arrogant & lazy, every time this group are favorites they collapse.

Also cannot believe that coaches allow these guys to go out playing with wrong boots or even more fundamental, that dont tell them to stop dry weather football when pissing down rain, ....handball, handball, drop ball turnover, ever going backwards.....when all they have to do is kick ball immediately anyway possible, off ground, anyway get forward.

Give up for another year. 

Am 67 now, will I ever see another grand final???

 

I sincerely hope you receive a letter from the Queen Tony....might be a while yet

Edited August 21, 20169 yr by Rusty Nails

Just knocked off my 7th pint of Thunderbird Pale and things are looking much brighter.

1 minute ago, tonyh said:

Arrogant & lazy, every time this group are favorites they collapse.

Also cannot believe that coaches allow these guys to go out playing with wrong boots or even more fundamental, that dont tell them to stop dry weather football when pissing down rain, ....handball, handball, drop ball turnover, ever going backwards.....when all they have to do is kick ball immediately anyway possible, off ground, anyway get forward.

Give up for another year. 

Am 67 now, will I ever see another grand final???

 

What a load of bullsh*t.  They have been favs against Brisbane, Richmond, Collingwood, GC x 2 and won all those games. 

Disappointing day I agree but they continued to crack in but nothing came off for them. 

10 Wins is a good result this year and we will be finalist next year.

18 minutes ago, Je Roos Salem said:

Hogan did a lot more than Weideman, however Weideman shouldn't have been picked ahead of Pedo

I seriously thought we were past games like this. We weren't turned on from the start but the Blues didn't look like they'd blow us away after that head start. This should've been a scrappy win but no one stepped up when we had the chances

We chased them all day and when we did get the ball we turned it over, they kicked with some precision we kicked like and under 12 side. Not one side in the 8 would have dropped that game today, we did because we effed up the selection and we don't have the pace to go with them. We should have added some outside pace instead we added a skinny kid, an ordinary slow fringe player and a new player who was having his first game for some time and was played out of position.

We always get beaten by them because we always do the same thing and they do the same thing and they know we will, we don't learn.  The football department should look at the Essendon, Saints and Carlton games and work out why we always fail against them, it shouldn't take them long.

I sent a mate a text at 1.20, 10 minutes in and said we are playing like crap again and it just didn't get any better.

Don't underestimate Kreuser, he performed well and their third man up negated Big Max. 

We a chance to stand up today and say "Hey we're genuine contenders"!

Instead we pi ssed our pants.

Once again supporters are teased into believing, only to receive a kick in the balls ( or the painful equivalent for female supporters)!

Only Melbourne can produce such [censored].

 

31 minutes ago, The Sailing Demon said:

Michie - Gone.
Dawes - Gone
Dunn - Gone
Lumumba - Gone
Grimes - Gone
Trengrove - Gone
Garland - Gone
ANB - Perhaps trade bait (I have always liked him but I think the writing may be on the wall)
Again proved that we are a better team with Pedo in.
Hogan - Slashing thousands off his contract with each week that goes by...No idea what the hell is going on with his goal kicking as a KPF not being able to slot it with confidence from 40+ is disgusting.
I don't mind losing (I still hate it and it upsets me) when we should lose, we can always take something from that...but when we lose to a team that has lost 9 on the trot with so much to play for is so bloody typical of this club it isn't funny.
I said yesterday that I didn't feel good about today and was proven right, just like both saints games, the first port game, and the Essendon game this stuff will always be sewn into the fabric of the club, it's just something that we have to accept in being a mediocre team.
I don't want to be the next Richmond, I want to be the next Hawthorn, Geelong, Swans.

This season is a success to me, I said 10 wins at the start of the year was a pass and we have achieved that, lets not let today dampen our triumphs this season over GWS, Hawks, port at home and another top 4 team being GWS.
 

So basically gut our depth entirely. There goes a strong Casey side to maintain pressure for spots.

What happens if we get a few injuries? With no Dunn or Garland, who are the next in line KPDs?

Despite today's putrid effort, the list is in good shape now. A slash and burn of the list at the end of the season would be completely fuckng bonkers.

I personally didn't think Michie was that bad at all. Besides the one blunder i thought he was ok.

Bernie Vince on the other hand...

Are we gonna have a special Topic for the Media, or can i just start one off with "the big fat AFL, Fox Boys Club weren't very nice to us today so bless them all......

We're a frustrated bunch here

I agree we've improved slightly when favoured but we're gonna need to do better going forward. No questions about it 

I blame Ethan Tremblay for today's [censored] up.

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

Just knocked off my 7th pint of Thunderbird Pale and things are looking much brighter.

The idiots who think we're all skiing have probably misheard what we usually say after a loss.....

"I'm gonna go hit the [censored]" with Piste! Mostly too drunk to stand up let alone ski

 

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

What a load of bullsh*t.  They have been favs against Brisbane, Richmond, Collingwood, GC x 2 and won all those games. 

Disappointing day I agree but they continued to crack in but nothing came off for them. 

10 Wins is a good result this year and we will be finalist next year.

10 wins is not a good return, we should have beaten, at least, Carlton and Essendon and probably one of the Saints games. I'll excuse them for the North and Weagles games because we were crucified by the umpires but if we are to be taken seriously we must beat teams on our level and below. Don't fall for the Richmond mantra, "we finished 9th this year so it's finals bound next year", every year is different so we may not get the chance.

Make no mistake we were absolute crap today and the players should be ashamed, particularly the leaders in the midfield.

On Hogan, this was a low pressure game and his kicking was awful, how would we react if it was a final and he lost the game for us because of the yips?