4 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I do not exaggerate when I say Jaksch is perhaps the worst AFL player in the last decade, at the very least.

We have a candidate for that title and somehow he played two games. Jacksch showed a little bit and played a good game or two for GWS at CHB. 

WHE would depend on the price like many have said. He offers us something we need but is prone to basic skill errors, Tom McDonald style. 

1 minute ago, Watts the matter said:

We have a candidate for that title and somehow he played two games. Jacksch showed a little bit and played a good game or two for GWS at CHB. 

WHE would depend on the price like many have said. He offers us something we need but is prone to basic skill errors, Tom McDonald style. 

To be fair, I didn't see his GWS games but the couple of game's I saw at Carlton were mind-numbingly awful. Who's our player?

53 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

To be fair, I didn't see his GWS games but the couple of game's I saw at Carlton were mind-numbingly awful. Who's our player?

Isaac Weetra, struggled in the VFL reserves yet on the back of some unimpressive preseason games started the season in the seniors. 

13 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

Isaac Weetra, struggled in the VFL reserves yet on the back of some unimpressive preseason games started the season in the seniors. 

Had to look him up to remember.

Wouldn't mind trying to bring in WHE if the price was right (2nd rounder +?), he could bunk with JKH and be the hyphen brother's.

His pace and run definitely suits our needs, we have our engine room developing nicely, now we just need some outside run and class. He is also capable up forward too.

We do have the likes of Kent, Kennedy, Harmes even Garlett, who can play up the ground, but they are more small forwards/rotating mids, whereas WHE is a mid/rotating forward.

 

***As for the Morton comparisons, they are worthy, but even Morton would do better in our team now, compared to when we were abhorrently bad and he was with us (save 2010 & 2011)

Edited August 12, 20169 yr by Demon Disciple

It's true that he looks and plays EXACTLY like a player that Melbourne would've drafted under BP

It's a very different club now though and he has natural talent without question.

He's worth looking at imo. Depends on the asking price.

 

Edited August 12, 20169 yr by P-man

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I swear he tore us apart at the G couple of years ago.

Kicked 4 goals - looked very good.

Screaming out that a player is useless with one last name is hard enough for us supports let a lone a play with two last names.

YOUR USELESS HOSKIN - ELLIOT!!

No thanks!

 

Hoskin-Elliot has had his season ravaged with quad and hamstring injuries , he started the season In the Senior team but wasn't great in the early season games against Geelong and Sydney, got dropped and has since had injury issues and hasn't had a decent run at it, his last few weeks in the NEAFL have been vastly improved but over his career he hasn't averaged great numbers, as someone pointed out, he's had cameos of games where he showcased his talent and X factor, but it's few and far between.

 

I'd probably pass.

he doesn't do enough offensively or defensively.

 

his body shape and frailties are too similar to morton.

These skinny outside types are more miss than hit as we well know.

Speculative...all depends on cost.

I've only seen him a couple of times, but I really liked the way he played.  I remember comparing him to Bob Murphy at one point.  Obviously his career has stalled under Cameron up at GWS, but the guy has skills and can run and we need both of those attributes.  I wouldn't be offering a high pick, but I think he's certainly worth making a play for. 

The fact that Collingwood are said to be into him is also a good reason.  Anything to stuff up one of their trades or drive the price up on them. 

Hoskin-Elliott... NO NO NO

On 12/08/2016 at 11:17 AM, Fat Tony said:

I think Hoskin-Elliot is worth strongly considering. He has pace, which is so important given the number of goals being kicked over the back. Also contracted I think.

We have to get a few of these guys, if they're not too costly & try them out.

 

On 12/08/2016 at 3:40 PM, stevethemanjordan said:

Supporters are always quick to make up their minds about players who have been on lists for years but have had limited exposure at AFL level and haven't shown a great deal.

I'm certainly guilty of that. 

However, GWS as a club are an outlier. The obvious reason being that they possess so much more talent on their list than any opposition club within the AFL. In fact it's a joke how much talent they have.

There's a reason their seconds side win by close to 100 points a week every week. The club is a gold mine of talent and we'd be mad not trade for players who would complement our group.

Will-Hoskin Elliott is exactly the 'type' of player we need to inject into our midfield mix. We're a really heavily contested midfield group, we're certainly not quick and it's clear to me that we're now at the stage of our list building where we can introduce these specialty type of players and give them really defined roles. The contested part of our game is sorted.

Good thread and good post, I'm all for having a dip at him.

Sort of agree stmj.   We have to recruit the ones we can, & then try to teach them to play with non negotiable's,  as well.  IF we get enough of them, we will find some who will do the 2 way running, & contest the footy hard. 

Ssome will fall by the wayside, but hey, welcome to the AFL.

On 12/08/2016 at 4:14 PM, Redleg said:

We apparently do have a good relationship with GWS and I wouldn't be surprised, to see us trade another player from them, with them improving their draft position again.

What chance a Dunn going to GWS, as a trade option?  Do they need mature backs?

 

On 12/08/2016 at 4:39 PM, ChaserJ said:

Wouldn't mind WHE depending on the price, but agree 100% on Paul Ahern.  Better ball user than WHE and can win his own ball.

If we could shake either Ahern or Pickett out, we'd go a long way toward rounding out our midfield.

 

ooh, I like the idea of that small forward who can go midfield.  Another Pickett on the list???  awesome.

I was impressed by Hoskin-Elliot when I first saw him, so I watched him a bit and the thing that I noticed was, he didn't get much of the ball, he looked OK when he had it but it wasn't enough. 

I don't think that's changed, he looks ok but he needs to do more, besides where would you play him? 

48 minutes ago, Dante said:

I was impressed by Hoskin-Elliot when I first saw him, so I watched him a bit and the thing that I noticed was, he didn't get much of the ball, he looked OK when he had it but it wasn't enough. 

I don't think that's changed, he looks ok but he needs to do more, besides where would you play him? 

Casey, until he works harder on contested ball.  He'll learn, or he'll fail.  Let him mature at the Demons, & see if we can help him grow.  Watts his name has.

On 12 August 2016 at 4:48 PM, Return to Glory said:

I do not exaggerate when I say Jaksch is perhaps the worst AFL player in the last decade, at the very least.

Have you forgotten Tom Gillies?

4 minutes ago, Radar Detector said:

Have you forgotten Tom Gillies?

or Lucas Cook?

Edited September 28, 20168 yr by Felix

1 hour ago, Radar Detector said:

Have you forgotten Tom Gillies?

 

1 hour ago, Felix said:

or Lucas Cook?

Neither. I rule out Cook because he never played. Gillies played two.

The thing about Jaksch is that, in the games that I saw, he was blindingly awful as opposed to doing nothing.

It is easy to fall in love with his skills, and his evasiveness, but is he effective? From what I have seen of Hoskin Elliot he is an X factor type, looks to have some levels to him. But the only consistency he has shown so far is that he is inconsistent - and cannot hit those high levels too often. GWS will ask a lot for him as he is a high draft pick. Not sure MFC can cater for him. We have Hibberd to fit in. Now rumors are we are also into Tom Cutler.

1 hour ago, Return to Glory said:

 

Neither. I rule out Cook because he never played. Gillies played two.

The thing about Jaksch is that, in the games that I saw, he was blindingly awful as opposed to doing nothing.

At least we never had to deal with Relton Roberts. 

19 minutes ago, Luther said:

At least we never had to deal with Relton Roberts. 

 

2 hours ago, Return to Glory said:

 

Neither. I rule out Cook because he never played. Gillies played two.

The thing about Jaksch is that, in the games that I saw, he was blindingly awful as opposed to doing nothing.

Isaac Weetra remains the worst MFC player I've ever seen.

From:- 

Graeme Allan allegedly ordered GWS staffer to-delete email from Lachie Whitfield's girlfriend

"Avoiding an illicit drug test would only have drawn a strike under the AFL's illicit drug code but seeking to avoid a test out of fear of performance-enhancing drugs being present falls under the WADA code and if found guilty draws a mandatory minimum four-year ban for the player and the two officials, Allan and Lambert.

The AFL concluded a long and protracted investigation before presenting the brief to ASADA who considered the details and returned the brief to the AFL requesting they get legal advice on the next move.

The AFL is understood to have since received that legal advice and is deciding how next to proceed."

17 hours ago, Felix said:

or Lucas Cook?

Doyle the cream puff?

Just now, jackaub said:

Doyle the cream puff?

He was very good for Dromana after he left Melbourne FC.