POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 17

[chook fowler 19,444]

6 minutes ago, stuie said:

Lost it on Thursday night.

 

You obviously didn't see the Casey game - slim pickings there

[beelzebub 23,313]

I really wonder at times ( like now ) if this team has really come any distance or is it just the names on the lockers just cloud the reality.

We still play a lot of dumb soft footy and still get kicked in the nuts by the likes of the Saints

2016 and still very ordinary.

Don't delude yourselves folks. It's a merry go round going nowhere ..... Still !!!

[stuie 7,374]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We all get it Stu. Selection. 

 

3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Was that because they stayed out too late?  

I'd like to know how it was lost at selection though.  Please name the players at Casey that would have changed that result and had us win the game.

 

3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Please tell what miraculous Thursday night magic would have changed today's result Stu!

Nah you guys are right, the Saints are just an awesome side and they beat us at our best, we weren't tired at all and fresh legs wouldn't have made any difference...

It's not like we have an example of a time we've won at Etihad when we brought in a fresh, small, quick team and beat decent opposition...

 

[bing181 9,193]

7 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I don't buy us being tired or whatever.  Not enough players rose to the occasion.  They stopped Hunt's run, Kennedy was poor, White and Grimes were WELL down on last week, Hogan had a mare, the captain was quiet, Vandenberg didn't do a whole lot... and the list goes on.

Agree with that ... but then hard to see how it can then be prefaced by "we lost in the coaching".

From what I can see, we lost it through the above, or to put it another way, not sure what the coaches could do when the above (and more) is going on.

(BTW, you missed Nate Jones from the above. Either sick or carrying something, his worst game since ... well, I'm not sure when. And boy, does it show!)

[Coq au vin 755]

Our list is second rate. Our game plan is poor. Our skills are very poor. We handball too much and stuff it up.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,823]

Just now, stuie said:

 

 

Nah you guys are right, the Saints are just an awesome side and they beat us at our best, we weren't tired at all and fresh legs wouldn't have made any difference...

It's not like we have an example of a time we've won at Etihad when we brought in a fresh, small, quick team and beat decent opposition...

 

It's not selection Stu. I firmly believe it's up top for most of our guys, they don't want it enough.

[Pates 9,659]

1 minute ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

As predicted, I'm sure we'll say that the Freo game took it out of us.

Can't say that if we've renewed the contract and if we do then I will flip out.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, bing181 said:

Agree with that ... but then hard to see how it can then be prefaced by "we lost in the coaching".

From what I can see, we lost it through the above, or to put it another way, not sure what the coaches could do when the above (and more) is going on.

(BTW, you missed Nate Jones from the above. Either sick or carrying something, his worst game since ... well, I'm not sure when. And boy, does it show!)

I did mention him big fella - "the captain was quiet" - but yes, it was his worst game in sometime.  People on here are now quick to pot him and it's grossly unfair.  How many times has he given his heart and soul to a game and been our only standout?  He had a shocker, but he can be forgiven for one from time to time.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, stuie said:

 

 

Nah you guys are right, the Saints are just an awesome side and they beat us at our best, we weren't tired at all and fresh legs wouldn't have made any difference...

It's not like we have an example of a time we've won at Etihad when we brought in a fresh, small, quick team and beat decent opposition...

 

That's not an answer.  Who would you have selected that would have won us the game.  No going around in circles Stuie, no sarcastic and over the top responses.  If you want to go with that narrative I'd love to know exactly who from Casey would have helped us win that game of football today.

[Dee1987 277]

At this stage Melksham and possibly Hibberd are walk up starters in 2017 another list mini overhaul is still needed

[Akum 2,660]

The most frustrating thing about the Roos tenure is that we keep getting fools made of us by teams that we should beat.

[Chris 2,892]

2 minutes ago, Pates said:

Can't say that if we've renewed the contract and if we do then I will flip out.

Is renewed for another two years. Was announced ealier this week. 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

4 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

 

Nah you guys are right, the Saints are just an awesome side and they beat us at our best, we weren't tired at all and fresh legs wouldn't have made any difference...

It's not like we have an example of a time we've won at Etihad when we brought in a fresh, small, quick team and beat decent opposition...

 

Glad you finally admitted you were wrong Stu.

[Pates 9,659]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

I did mention him big fella - "the captain was quiet" - but yes, it was his worst game in sometime.  People on here are now quick to pot him and it's grossly unfair.  How many times has he given his heart and soul to a game and been our only standout?  He had a shocker, but he can be forgiven for one from time to time.

Agreed, he's got a lot more runs of the board than just about anybody in the team. No need to rush Viney into the captaincy, it will come.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

That's not an answer.  Who would you have selected that would have won us the game.  No going around in circles Stuie, no sarcastic and over the top responses.  If you want to go with that narrative I'd love to know exactly who from Casey would have helped us win that game of football today.

Time for you to deliver Stu!!

[Tony Tea 2,806]

Spanked by Clarko footy. Again.

[Pates 9,659]

1 minute ago, Chris said:

Is renewed for another two years. Was announced ealier this week. 

That's what I'm saying, we've agreed to play there for another two year so we can't use it as an excuse and if we do then it's just opening the door for some serious anger from the fans.

[dazzledavey36 54,215]

7 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

 

Nah you guys are right, the Saints are just an awesome side and they beat us at our best, we weren't tired at all and fresh legs wouldn't have made any difference...

It's not like we have an example of a time we've won at Etihad when we brought in a fresh, small, quick team and beat decent opposition...

 

You still haven't answered the question..

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Bitter but optimistic said:

Time for you to deliver Stu!!

I just reckon it's a shallow excuse and, believe it or not, I think Stuie should know better.  If we don't go out there with the right mindset and we haven't planned for a side correctly then it doesn't matter what cattle you have on the park - you'll lose.  Why he keeps running with this narrative is beyond me.

[leucopogon 1,519]

i vote we do the Darwin game in round 23 next season 

[John Crow Batty 8,860]

On today's performance it may get very ugly now for the remainder of the season. Can't see us winning more than one more. Some serious whippings ahead for the boys coming up. And it's going to a be a feast of self flagellation for the fans. 

[Akum 2,660]

If teams let us play the corridor, we look great.

If they close up the corridor, we have very few other ways of moving the ball forwards.

And we get smashed by teams that have a system at stoppages and can tie up our Auskick British Bulldogs tactics.

[Theo 272]

2 minutes ago, Pates said:

Can't say that if we've renewed the contract and if we do then I will flip out.

Handball happy as usual. Brayshaw's decisi

 

2 minutes ago, Pates said:

Can't say that if we've renewed the contract and if we do then I will flip out.

It's not Darwin it's the team. I was in Darwin last  week and it was a perfect night. Low humidity. The ground was wet from watering. Hawthorn wouldn't f---ing lose after playing there. Sick of Darwin always being the excuse

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Akum said:

If teams let us play the corridor, we look great.

If they close up the corridor, we have very few other ways of moving the ball forwards.

And we get smashed by teams that have a system at stoppages and can tie up our Auskick British Bulldogs tactics.

Spot on Akum.  In the last quarter they stopped us getting it into the corridor, and what happened?  We went long to a contest and they just picked it off, got it forward and scored.  Right now we have no plan B when this happens.

Will be a tough finish to the season if we play like this more often, but I'm keen for Goodwin to take the reins for 2017 and see what he's made of.

[dazzledavey36 54,215]

Its proving how badly we are missing Salem's class and skill off half back..