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My 3 word player analysis V Sydney

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Jones - prolific not influential

Vince - never stopped trying

Hogan - was obviously restricted

Watts - it's not basketball

Petracca - a few cameos

Dawes - had no impact

Viney - tried but overwhelmed

Trengove - had no spark

Gawn - conditions nullified influence

Tyson - was easily outmuscled

Oliver - was rarely sighted

Stretch - missing at sea

Kent - probably went overboard

Frost - rough but willing

T.McDonald - a steady game

O.McDonald - lacked footy smarts

Hunt - brave and attacking

Bugg - was rarely noticed

Kennedy - had no impact

vandenBerg- surprisingly quiet game

Jetta - barely bothered scorers

Wagner - tried but failed

 

 

Mc Donald was thrashed by buddy and you reckon "A steady game" Rubbish!

6 minutes ago, joeboy said:

Watts - it's not basketball

 

Was one of our cleanest all day. Rubbish comment.

 

Ridiculous comment about Watts. One of our cleanest, and definitely his best game in the wet. 


Agree with many Joeboy, but have taken the liberty of adding my thoughts

 

Jones - prolific not influential

Vince - never stopped trying

Hogan - was obviously restricted

Watts - it's not basketball  Gutsy and clean

Petracca - a few cameos

Dawes - had no impact Impacted many contests

Viney - tried but overwhelmed Hand still sore

Trengove - had no spark

Gawn - conditions nullified influence

Tyson - was easily outmuscled

Oliver - was rarely sighted

Stretch - missing at sea Should've been Mitchie

Kent - probably went overboard

Frost - rough but willing

T.McDonald - a steady game Brain fades annoy

O.McDonald - lacked footy smarts Tried but inexperienced

Hunt - brave and attacking

Bugg - was rarely noticed

Kennedy - had no impact

vandenBerg- surprisingly quiet game Should've been Grimes

Jetta - barely bothered scorers

Wagner - tried but failed

What a really bad assessment of Jack Watts. In weather conditions not suited to a big man he did all he could to keep us in the game. 'Brave and gutsy' might have a more accurate comment. Joeboy does tend to be negative in his thoughts when we lose. 

 

Jb usually nails it but I thought watts was very good today.

Re trenners the poor bloke seems to have lost a lot of his speed.

Tmac kicking acroos goal in the wet isnt good mut he played okay.

Oliver and vdberg seem to have dropped a lot of their form last 2 games

Just now, davo said:

Watts was good, T Mac wasn't , Grimes should be playing

that would of made a hell of alot of differance, people need to loko past grimesy the great bloke, he's not up to it, neither is Trengove


The difference between wet weather footy and dry weather footy is so stark, we really should have made a few changes. The likes of Stretch and OMac could have been left out for some more suitable wet weather players. Not a personal knock, just pointing out the fact that the game is fundamentally different in the wet.

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Trengove is just as slow as he was 2 years ago...

 

he is cactus unfortunately 

8 minutes ago, mattjm said:

he is cactus unfortunately 

Sad but true i think. 

On a dry day he will have no chance. 


1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Mc Donald was thrashed by buddy and you reckon "A steady game" Rubbish!

Really? Not sure which game you were watching, Buddy beat Tom on a couple of occasions otherwuse Tom took the chocies. 

1 hour ago, Forest Demon said:

The difference between wet weather footy and dry weather footy is so stark, we really should have made a few changes. The likes of Stretch and OMac could have been left out for some more suitable wet weather players. Not a personal knock, just pointing out the fact that the game is fundamentally different in the wet.

Stretch didn't have a good game, but clean outside runners who can run and break the lines are more important, not less in wet weather. They won't get a heap of ball but they can provide the scoring chances. Replacing Stretch with a plodder on the wing wouldn't have changed the result. We needed to win the ball inside to get it to Stretch more. Maybe a case can be made for Harmes instead of him but if the ball isn't coming away from the contest with any quality the winger on the outside is stuffed regardless.

Oscar, we probably could've done without. But if there's a strong bodied, quick, skillful defender at Casey I'd like to know who it is. Michie, Grimes or Garland in his spot wouldn't have changed the game. 

Our midfield need to lift to be able to match the best, then across the ground we have to lift our pressure skills. We have to be faster to apply pressure and better under pressure. Sydney are always so quick to set up to provide options for their team mates and then they are so efficient in the way they hunt the other team with the footy whilst covering options.  

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Stretch didn't have a good game, but clean outside runners who can run and break the lines are more important, not less in wet weather. They won't get a heap of ball but they can provide the scoring chances. Replacing Stretch with a plodder on the wing wouldn't have changed the result. We needed to win the ball inside to get it to Stretch more. Maybe a case can be made for Harmes instead of him but if the ball isn't coming away from the contest with any quality the winger on the outside is stuffed regardless.

Oscar, we probably could've done without. But if there's a strong bodied, quick, skillful defender at Casey I'd like to know who it is. Michie, Grimes or Garland in his spot wouldn't have changed the game. 

Our midfield need to lift to be able to match the best, then across the ground we have to lift our pressure skills. We have to be faster to apply pressure and better under pressure. Sydney are always so quick to set up to provide options for their team mates and then they are so efficient in the way they hunt the other team with the footy whilst covering options.  

Disagree on the first point. If you can get it out to them then absolutely, but it just rarely happens in a bog like today.

I would love to see what would happen if a club just rung the changes in the wet, and chose their best 22 wet trackers, even if it meant 8-10 changes.

I know it sounds stupid, but the game is unrecognisable from what you would see on a dry day at the G, or under the roof at Etihad.

People suggesting that Grimes and co. should have played... do any of you actually think that would have changed the result other than maybe giving up 1 less goal?? Sydney is a top 2 team and arguably the best side going round. I doubt Grimes, Michie, Newton, ANB or anyone else playing in the 2's would have made much of a difference. 


When we lose everyone is useless. When we win, everyone is brilliant. Yet, I still continue to open this thread after each game.

I only caught the second half, but I had Watts as BOG for us.  When everyone was fumbling and slipping around in a 30-man rolling maul, he repeatedly picked the ball up cleanly and managed to find a teammate.  10 of his 18 disposals were contested which is amazing for a guy who has spent his career being knocked for soft play.  Also 4 marks and 5 tackles. 

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Sad but true i think. 

On a dry day he will have no chance. 

I disagree. Trengove is great at finding space, and a dry day with clean ball movement will help him immensely. He might to be quick, but he is smart. Wet weather footy does slow him down further, but also limits the amount of clean footy anyone can get. 

 
Just now, Mickey said:

I disagree. Trengove is great at finding space, and a dry day with clean ball movement will help him immensely. He might to be quick, but he is smart. Wet weather footy does slow him down further, but also limits the amount of clean footy anyone can get. 

Hmm he might be good at finding space. But he won't be able to use it. He will be rushed all the time

that's what was happening 2 years ago

MFC : played dumb football

On a day like today how many do you need around the contest. Would of benefitted from a defender standing top of the goal square and someone with pace goal side by about 20 metres at all stoppages.   


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