1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

No wires crossed from me. It's Roos' call whether we delist Grimes but its not his call that Grimes retires. As for Roos being adamant the Grime will retire, that is carp

I think maybe the Roos part was about him retiring, not Grimes. Could be wrong. That's where the wires crossed I believe.

7 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

There was article on mfc website last year where Roos said everyone played 'individual' football when he arrived and he noted Grimes and Jones. They were both interested in individual stats implying not playing teamwork on the field. 

Jones responded in Roos 1st year and was made sole captain.  One can only assume that Grimes didn't respond, lost the captaincy and asked to work out his issues in the reserves.  Jones recently acknowledged his 'individual' performance (pre Roos) as that is all he could control when there was so much going on off field. Worked very hard at being a good team player and leader,

I can understand Jack feeling badly done by in losing the captaincy and feeling put out about playing reserves.  He is a proud man with whom the 'demotions' would not sit well.  Perhaps it was his own ego feeling bruised. 

To blame his non-selection on Roos' ego is just so far fetched to be downright silly.  I think we can all see the reasons Jack (and other pre Roos) players have missed senior selection. It will be interesting to see if he plays 'individual' football or plays the 'way the coaches want', in the next few games or if he goes back to old ways.  Will also be interested to see how he plays the 'team defence' game style...his first time in the seniors since we've played this way.

Hope DL give him a few weeks before criticising as he will find the tempo faster than from Casey and if he plays wing or forward will need time to slot in with other players and style of play. 

For Jack it won't be about possessions/tackles or other individual stats - it will be all about his contribution to team defence, team play and unselfish football.

His efficiency was always quite high but I suspect that was mostly from hitting up alot of boundary targets/low percentage outcomes . Now he needs to hit up the short stuff more often through the middle and quickly. If he can do this consistently he probably keeps his spot

No one has claimed that Roos is a school yard kid picking sides. At best it's putting words into other's mouths, at worst it's just plain made up. One poster told of a conversation he had with a close relative of Grimes. Make of it what you will, and some are making up what it was not, but a conversation relayed with a viable source declared is valid.

Give him 1 more then [censored] him off. Seriously...

Give him 1 more then [censored] him off. Seriously...

Next week, like all of our games after an NT game, will be a dead rubber. Just play him for his 100th, nothing to lose.

On 8 July 2016 at 6:34 PM, Moonshadow said:

No one has claimed that Roos is a school yard kid picking sides. At best it's putting words into other's mouths, at worst it's just plain made up. One poster told of a conversation he had with a close relative of Grimes. Make of it what you will, and some are making up what it was not, but a conversation relayed with a viable source declared is valid.

What conversation

On ya jack. Shut a few people up tonight. If you think different your letting your bias overtake your view. 

4 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Give him 1 more then [censored] him off. Seriously...

Noeyedear

He was good, but he's not quite on the right page with the game plan, still playing Neelds down the line on quite a few occasions when we should have maintained possession.

Can't fault his endeavour so hopefully he can sort it out.

Grimes best on field looking at fantasy points 

140 Fantasy Points. 32 touches. Might get a Brownlow vote.

Proven AFL player. He will be an asset as we rise up the ladder

On ya Jack, great return!

Proven AFL player. He will be an asset as we rise up the ladder

13 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Give him 1 more then [censored] him off. Seriously...

How about you [censored] off.... 32 touches, good return from him

Great return game. Couple of dodgy kicks, but he worked hard and his tackling and ball use overall was very strong.

If you aren't bias, his game is as good as any game we got from Bugg this year. 

I'm thrilled for him!

Best possible return. Stoked for him!!!

Outstanding return to the seniors. Well done Jack. 

32 disposals, 9 marks, 8 tackles! operating at 90% disposal efficiency.

Great game by Jack. If you think otherwise I highly advise you to tune out from any future AFL games.

 

Well played but needs to adjust to the game style a little more.

20 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Give him 1 more then [censored] him off. Seriously...

Booooooooo.

Good to see him back and play well. Wasn't a perfect game but he won a lot of ball and worked hard when we didn't have possession too. Will be good to see him reach 100 games next week. He deserves it!

Jack Grimes is the player who keeps on giving. Rewards the footy department and his team-mates by playing well. Rewards VFL watching Melbourne supporters by carrying his VFL form into AFL level. Rewards the haters by giving them someone to deride.

Good Guy Grimes.

Very good game. Well done Jack