On 30/04/2016 at 09:59, stevethemanjordan said:

Pedo, T-Mac, Dunn, Vince, Gawn, Tyson.

They were all extremely poor. 

It's not just about inexperience. It's when most of your side are playing their worst football.

And for some reason we see it too often.

Pedo wasn't playing

The Saints are ahead of us. No big deal

  On 18/07/2016 at 10:46, Diamond said:

Pedo wasn't playing

The post you were responding to was from April.

This round:

Average games played - 61

Average age - 23yo

Again, youngest most inexperienced side of the round. Even GC went out with a more mature side. Any suprise that our season is such a rollercoaster?

We have fielded the youngest most inexperienced side for 15 rounds this year

  On 21/08/2016 at 09:23, bandicoot said:

This round:

Average games played - 61

Average age - 23yo

Again, youngest most inexperienced side of the round. Even GC went out with a more mature side. Any suprise that our season is such a rollercoaster?

We have fielded the youngest most inexperienced side for 15 rounds this year

You're absolutely right, but gee... Still hurts.

  On 21/08/2016 at 09:47, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

You're absolutely right, but gee... Still hurts.

I was going to say the same thing.  It does put things into perspective a little, but the loss still hurts.

I just can't wait until some of these younger players have 20-30 more games under their belts.

I am just sick of the waiting......

I mean, i know i have no choice, and we have a team of children who might actually become quite good, and we are better than last year, and we show potential, and, .... and.....

I dont wanna wait any more. Im old and broken already and i cant afford the alcohol that i need to keep tuning in every week.

This team makes me grumpy. 

And sometimes happy

But mostly grumpy.

 

Having the youngest side for at least 15 rounds of the season certainly makes ten wins seem more impressive.

Agree with the above though. It still hurts.

Of course we are inexperienced. We play guys like Michie, Neal-Bullen and Vandenberg who aren't AFL standard.

These guys are inexperienced because they aren't good enough to play at this level and therefore don't deserve games.

  On 22/08/2016 at 02:12, poita said:

Of course we are inexperienced. We play guys like Michie, Neal-Bullen and Vandenberg who aren't AFL standard.

These guys are inexperienced because they aren't good enough to play at this level and therefore don't deserve games.

Good Point. 

  On 22/08/2016 at 02:12, poita said:

Of course we are inexperienced. We play guys like Michie, Neal-Bullen and Vandenberg who aren't AFL standard.

These guys are inexperienced because they aren't good enough to play at this level and therefore don't deserve games.

So who do we have with this wealth of experience who can take their place? Even with Harmes, Garlett and Pedo back in we are still one of if not the most inexperienced side out there each week, and we have won 10 games with that. Would you prefer we play a little more experienced side and be where Brisbane, GC, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood, etc are? We are ahead of every one of them and with a younger less experienced side. 

  On 22/08/2016 at 02:18, Chris said:

So who do we have with this wealth of experience who can take their place? Even with Harmes, Garlett and Pedo back in we are still one of if not the most inexperienced side out there each week, and we have won 10 games with that. Would you prefer we play a little more experienced side and be where Brisbane, GC, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood, etc are? We are ahead of every one of them and with a younger less experienced side. 

We are only ahead if our young players continue to improve. We had a young team in 2010 and we had all the hype around us after knocking of Sydney.  2011 started OK but we entered another rebuild in 2012, followed by another in 2014.  We need potential to become Actual, the next 2 years we can't go backwards

  On 22/08/2016 at 03:04, drdrake said:

We are only ahead if our young players continue to improve. We had a young team in 2010 and we had all the hype around us after knocking of Sydney.  2011 started OK but we entered another rebuild in 2012, followed by another in 2014.  We need potential to become Actual, the next 2 years we can't go backwards

Obviously. As of right this minute we are ahead though, that is the point. Having a younger more inexperienced team would indicate we have more potential for improvement than those teams below us, which is great.

The key word though is potential. If we do not realise that potential then we go backwards, at the minute we have more margin for error on that than the teams below us. That can change very quickly though and by about round 15 next year (give Goodwin some time to settle in) we will see which way it is going. Lets hope it is up. 

  On 22/08/2016 at 03:04, drdrake said:

We are only ahead if our young players continue to improve. We had a young team in 2010 and we had all the hype around us after knocking of Sydney.  2011 started OK but we entered another rebuild in 2012, followed by another in 2014.  We need potential to become Actual, the next 2 years we can't go backwards

At some stage the club has to jump and not look back. Leave the old culture like a skin a snake sheds

we could have jumped next week

But the safety of losing pulled us back yesterday. 

We are getting stronger but we still have weakness to get rid of. 

  On 21/08/2016 at 09:23, bandicoot said:

This round:

Average games played - 61

Average age - 23yo

Again, youngest most inexperienced side of the round. Even GC went out with a more mature side. Any suprise that our season is such a rollercoaster?

We have fielded the youngest most inexperienced side for 15 rounds this year

oh to have the freedom of the child again and not be accountable and be able to sneak a cigar behind the shelter shed and to not have to answer for your actions without the youth exxcuse but surely it assumes that you are going to improve because you age or you play more or you can only make so many mistakes before you can kick a goal from ten metres or you learn or are taught to run and run and run....

and todd viney lay on the floor of the portsea pub in a fit of laughter because fyfe was comin........and comin and..

 

  On 21/08/2016 at 09:23, bandicoot said:

This round:

Average games played - 61

Average age - 23yo

Again, youngest most inexperienced side of the round. Even GC went out with a more mature side. Any suprise that our season is such a rollercoaster?

We have fielded the youngest most inexperienced side for 15 rounds this year

I think you'll find that the Dogs just pipped us for least experienced with 60 games. 

  On 22/08/2016 at 10:12, grey wolf said:

oh to have the freedom of the child again and not be accountable and be able to sneak a cigar behind the shelter shed and to not have to answer for your actions without the youth exxcuse but surely it assumes that you are going to improve because you age or you play more or you can only make so many mistakes before you can kick a goal from ten metres or you learn or are taught to run and run and run....

and todd viney lay on the floor of the portsea pub in a fit of laughter because fyfe was comin........and comin and..

 

Cigars seem to be a common theme in your limited history here Grey One. I'm beginning to wonder if they actually are cigars or maybe massive doobies. Would certainly explain a few things. You and Biffen should make contact. Or not...

No excuses. We were very very poor against the Blues. 

Well bringing in Lewis and Hibberd while Melksham coming back is going to change this a lot.

Enjoyed our baby demons but it's hard not to expect bigger things for 2017 with a harder and more mature crew that should be again more consistent.

FB:  Oscar.      Frost.      Jetta

HB:  Hibberd   T Mac     Melksham

C:    Vince.       Viney      Hunt

HF:  Petracca   Hogan   Kent

FF:  Garlett      Weid      Watts

R:  Gawn      Jones      Lewis

Int:  Brayshaw, Oliver, Tyson, Salem, Stretch, Pedo?? Who knows. Probably forgot a few.

Bit of a challenge trying to squeeze all the players in but I'm happy we are no longer the babies.

 

 

 

  On 17/10/2016 at 09:18, deeko said:

Well bringing in Lewis and Hibberd while Melksham coming back is going to change this a lot.

Enjoyed our baby demons but it's hard not to expect bigger things for 2017 with a harder and more mature crew that should be again more consistent.

FB:  Oscar.      Frost.      Jetta

HB:  Hibberd   T Mac     Melksham

C:    Vince.       Viney      Hunt

HF:  Petracca   Hogan   Kent

FF:  Garlett      Weid      Watts

R:  Gawn      Jones      Lewis

Int:  Brayshaw, Oliver, Tyson, Salem, Stretch, Pedo?? Who knows. Probably forgot a few.

Bit of a challenge trying to squeeze all the players in but I'm happy we are no longer the babies.

 

 

 

I'm not saying it's going to happen a lot, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie is dropped for a game or two next year if our squad is fit and he doesn't reach a higher level than he did this year. He may have racked it up in 2016, but he makes too many hideous clangers for a player with his experience. 

They won't all be consistent, but I'd have Gus, Oliver, Tyson, Salem and Stretch in my team every week (injury-permitting). 

Melksham is perhaps the other not so definite starter for mine. He and Vince may well be competing for the same spot, unless they see time for Bernie on a wing. It'll be interesting to see who Goodie favours. All coaches do.

It's great seeing that team though. It's really starting to come together. I reckon we still need one more elite mid in that mix that can play forward or distribute off half back, but we can go after them at the end of 2017 if no further deals are made this trade period.

  On 17/10/2016 at 09:30, A F said:

 

Melksham is perhaps the other not so definite starter for mine. He and Vince may well be competing for the same spot, unless they see time for Bernie on a wing. It'll be interesting to see who Goodie favours. All coaches do.

This is what excites me the most with the inclusions so far.

Another mature and classy player comes in further increasing the standards. 

If we have another season like this one with minimal injuries I'd be worried if I was a Ben K, Bugg, JKH or Nibbler (and obviously a couple others) who really should be looking at cementing there place.

  On 17/10/2016 at 09:50, deeko said:

This is what excites me the most with the inclusions so far.

Another mature and classy player comes in further increasing the standards. 

If we have another season like this one with minimal injuries I'd be worried if I was a Ben K, Bugg, JKH or Nibbler (and obviously a couple others) who really should be looking at cementing there place.

Yep. And I'd be worried if I was Bernie to be honest. And even though he's my favourite player, Jets may be in trouble too unless he keeps attacking off half back. He doesn't have the same flexibility that our other backmen give, nor an elite trait like Hibberd's kicking. I want a lot more from Kent and Garlett too. If they can't both hit 40 goals I reckon we'll be a chance at really pushing up in the higher echelons of the top 8. They're both too inconsistent for my liking. 

Anyway, they're all good players, so I like that it's come to this.

Edited October 17, 20168 yr by A F

Interesting with the ins and outs (including the ones to come), I don't think our list's average age is going to change all that much in the end.

  On 17/10/2016 at 20:45, Elwood 3184 said:

Interesting with the ins and outs (including the ones to come), I don't think our list's average age is going to change all that much in the end.

Hibberd, Melksham and Lewis will definitely change things, but IMO probably not enough.

  On 17/10/2016 at 21:50, A F said:

Hibberd, Melksham and Lewis will definitely change things, but IMO probably not enough.

Of course Melksham was already on the list.