2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Have criticised him a lot in the past and I'm at the stage where I've accepted he'll never be the game changer I wanted him and expected him to be with the hype that surrounded him. 

Contributed really well on the weekend and whilst there'll continue to be aspects of his game that I'll wince at, he could be a really handy and versatile third tall this year and down the track when Weideman is ready. Hogan, Weideman, Watts and Petracca could be the fab four with Garlett and Kent eating crumbs down the track. They need to play a lot together and form a bond. But it could be special.

Hoping he has a really strong year in the forward-line and hits the scoreboard hard.

I believe he can.

How about the quality of players recruited and the quality of coaching he has been surrounded by since his arrival.  Shizenhouse!  I agree with many posters however that he must have his best year.  With the better talent around him now I am backing him in.  

I may have a different take to some, but I have no doubt that the club has no intention of busting a gut to re-sign him until they're convinced he can take his game consistently to another level.

He's started well, but won't want a dip in form or efforts in the contest.

2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Have criticised him a lot in the past and I'm at the stage where I've accepted he'll never be the game changer I wanted him and expected him to be with the hype that surrounded him. 

Contributed really well on the weekend and whilst there'll continue to be aspects of his game that I'll wince at, he could be a really handy and versatile third tall this year and down the track when Weideman is ready. Hogan, Weideman, Watts and Petracca could be the fab four with Garlett and Kent eating crumbs down the track. They need to play a lot together and form a bond. But it could be special.

Hoping he has a really strong year in the forward-line and hits the scoreboard hard.

I believe he can.

How about the quality of players recruited and the quality of coaching he has been surrounded by since his arrival?  Shizenhouse!  I agree with many posters however that he must have his best year.  With the better talent around him now I am backing him in.  

 

8 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I may have a different take to some, but I have no doubt that the club has no intention of busting a gut to re-sign him until they're convinced he can take his game consistently to another level.

He's started well, but won't want a dip in form or efforts in the contest.

Hey, PD! Did you sniff a Watts' broth cooking?

13 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I may have a different take to some, but I have no doubt that the club has no intention of busting a gut to re-sign him until they're convinced he can take his game consistently to another level.

He's started well, but won't want a dip in form or efforts in the contest.

I have the same view as this.

I'm sure they are tired of waiting for him to be more physical.

 

Its now or never for Jack.

 

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jack-watts-hopes-to-sort-new-deal-with-melbourne-despite-lure-of-free-agency/news-story/5531b40c36b785bf1956b99f306a034a

"WATTS ONLY WANTS TO BE A DEMON"

Amazing the difference a headline makes. Same quotes from the same interview but a sane reporter at Fox Sports that doesn't jump at shadows to get a clickbait headline

Of course JW will look at FA at years end

he is eligable

i hope after a great year he also looks closely at where he already is

the home of The MCG...

Watts is a useful contributor, most criticism of him is ridiculous and based on nothing more than aesthetics.

He's no world-beater, but he's a valuable player on our list.

If he signs a deal now. It'll be for diddly squat. 

Instead, he plays his guts out. Increases his value as a player. Grabs a few offers from rival clubs and gets the MFC to match or better for another 3 years. 

It's simple stuff. We'd all do the same. 

Can this thread please not turn into another generic Watts thread.

Let's focus on the fact Bombay tried to completely reinterpret a pretty clear article to suit his own bias against a player, which included the thread tag "sodd off then".

This is absolute rubbish posting by him, and the title needs to be changed or the thread deleted just like other threads with false information or misleading titles are.

Pathetic attempt.

 

And some people wonder while most players refuse to talk in anything but tired cliches...

13 minutes ago, stuie said:

Can this thread please not turn into another generic Watts thread.

Let's focus on the fact Bombay tried to completely reinterpret a pretty clear article to suit his own bias against a player, which included the thread tag "sodd off then".

This is absolute rubbish posting by him, and the title needs to be changed or the thread deleted just like other threads with false information or misleading titles are.

Pathetic attempt.

 

Take a lie down Stuie

just let people say whatever they want...

2 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Read the article....I was looking for the bit where he talks about his dissapointing form over the last couple of years and how he feels as though he owes the club for everything they've done for him. He could then go onto say after some strong showings in NAB challenge 1 and 2 he feels this could be his breakout year and the thought of free agency hadn't even entered his mind.

Or the bit where it says we've shopped him around a couple of times for no result?

2 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Read the article....I was looking for the bit where he talks about his dissapointing form over the last couple of years and how he feels as though he owes the club for everything they've done for him. He could then go onto say after some strong showings in NAB challenge 1 and 2 he feels this could be his breakout year and the thought of free agency hadn't even entered his mind.

Or the bit where it says we've shopped him around a couple of times for no result?

Context...context....now where did I put it. How's this for context, he was dropped for rd 23 last year, comes out and plays 2 solid games in the first two weeks of the NAB challenge and it's the old "he'll let us know when he's ready to talk". Throw away line or footy speak call it what you want, 3 years ago he went with "waiting to see who the coach is and the direction of the club", what he and 3/4 of the list failed to realise at the time was that regardless of who was coaching the players had to put in as well, it's as if some players thought the Roos coaching appointment automatically equaled wins. I think it was two years ago in Roos first game as coach he starred against the Saints, sadly that type of performance wasn't sighted again for much of the season. You won't believe this Stu but I have moved on from the no.1 draft pick tag, I'm [censored] off because he's currently a wasted talent. Before someone tells me he would star at another club, he has the opportunity to star for us, this year, the only thing holding Jack Watts back is Jack himself. I think the foot in both camps reeks of arrogance considering what he's served up in his time at the club. As for hate, no hate, my views on Watts have always been realistic and consistent. But if Watts should announce at seasons end he is wanting out just watch how many on here change their opinions of him just as they did for Howe. Anyway Stu you'll have to excuse me I'm off to see how Tmac is going, he's currently getting the [censored] kicked through him in another thread.

It's been a loooooooong time since the footy world viewed us as anything other than a curiosity or an irrelevance.

Get used to more of these articles as we climb the ladder.

Scrutiny. It happens to good clubs. Embrace it.

"The only thing worse than being talked about, is being stabbed in the nads with a sharpened walking cane" --Oscar Wilde

1 hour ago, stuie said:

 

Let's focus on the fact Bombay tried to completely reinterpret a pretty clear article to suit his own bias against a player, which included the thread tag "sodd off then".

This is absolute rubbish posting by him, and the title needs to be changed or the thread deleted just like other threads with false information or misleading titles are.

Pathetic attempt.

 

It seems neither of you read the original article properly - BA obviously missed the main thrust of it, and you've missed the fact that the thread title is almost a word for word copy of the original article's headline. 

It's the AFL that put a sexy headline on a nothing story, not BA. 

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Surely if the club can offer Garland 3 years then Watts deserves to get signed up as well?

I think we got Garland on the cheap Dazzle, one thing I don't think many have considered is that even if Watts wants to stay I think there will be a big difference in what both parties think he's worth and that alone may see him go. As for who replaces him, we'll have to see how Hulett is travelling later in the year. The Weed may need a bit longer. I can see Pedo getting a year deal for 2018. We don't know how the interchange will effect us yet, we may find ourselves in a position of playing only two talls and rotating mids more frequently through there. 

1 hour ago, alias275 said:

If he signs a deal now. It'll be for diddly squat. 

Instead, he plays his guts out. Increases his value as a player. Grabs a few offers from rival clubs and gets the MFC to match or better for another 3 years. 

It's simple stuff. We'd all do the same. 

Have a good last year of a contract to land a new long term one on very good coin. Then cruise for a few years. It's the Melbourne way.

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

I may have a different take to some, but I have no doubt that the club has no intention of busting a gut to re-sign him until they're convinced he can take his game consistently to another level.

He's started well, but won't want a dip in form or efforts in the contest.

I 100% agree. And i have little doubt the club have made it clear where they stand. Being dropped in round 23 and his subsequent comments about the need to become more competitive is proof of that. 

As you say (and for what its worth Jack also) he started well enough but needs to stay at that level. 

36 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

It seems neither of you read the original article properly - BA obviously missed the main thrust of it, and you've missed the fact that the thread title is almost a word for word copy of the original article's headline. 

It's the AFL that put a sexy headline on a nothing story, not BA. 

It's interesting that the AFL site went with that headline, as the HUN, which loves to go over the top, went with the fact that Watts wants to remain a Demon for life as the headline.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

he stays, he stays; he goes, he goes.

 

he's not essential to our development as a good side - he's the cherry.

 

the likes of hogan, gawn, viney, t mac, brayshaw, oliver and salem are far more important in the short- and long-term.

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Context...context....now where did I put it. How's this for context, he was dropped for rd 23 last year, comes out and plays 2 solid games in the first two weeks of the NAB challenge and it's the old "he'll let us know when he's ready to talk". Throw away line or footy speak call it what you want, 3 years ago he went with "waiting to see who the coach is and the direction of the club", what he and 3/4 of the list failed to realise at the time was that regardless of who was coaching the players had to put in as well, it's as if some players thought the Roos coaching appointment automatically equaled wins. I think it was two years ago in Roos first game as coach he starred against the Saints, sadly that type of performance wasn't sighted again for much of the season. You won't believe this Stu but I have moved on from the no.1 draft pick tag, I'm [censored] off because he's currently a wasted talent. Before someone tells me he would star at another club, he has the opportunity to star for us, this year, the only thing holding Jack Watts back is Jack himself. I think the foot in both camps reeks of arrogance considering what he's served up in his time at the club. As for hate, no hate, my views on Watts have always been realistic and consistent. But if Watts should announce at seasons end he is wanting out just watch how many on here change their opinions of him just as they did for Howe. Anyway Stu you'll have to excuse me I'm off to see how Tmac is going, he's currently getting the [censored] kicked through him in another thread.

Not sure this post gave you the credibility you would have hoped for in dismissing your Watts bias.

 

 

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

1 hour ago, Grapeviney said:

It seems neither of you read the original article properly - BA obviously missed the main thrust of it, and you've missed the fact that the thread title is almost a word for word copy of the original article's headline. 

It's the AFL that put a sexy headline on a nothing story, not BA. 

 

 

So what you're saying is we can start player bashing threads based on a misleading headline and that's totally ok?