On 09/03/2016 at 9:18 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

Pick 18 won't cut it..

Hawthorn seems to manage ok offering pick 18 ...

must be the premiership destination club factor

 

3 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

A while back there was a rumour that he would eventually like to play his footy in Melbourne (the city) whilst Andrew was still running around for North.

Not sure if that had substance, but I don't think the go home factor would be an issue for him.

It was actually reported back in 2011. Andrew was basically a rookie with not much to see on the horizon whereas David was the gun.

Join the dots...

Seriously WTF!!!!

Is it just me or is AFL journalism an utter farce.

Yesterday that poor excuse Robinson has s "scoop" that Jaegar O'Meara is being shipped around for an asking price of $750,000. Today his management comes out and angrily denies it. 

Not the first time this year Robbo's been caught making porkies. Ie Collingwood's drug cheating players.

And what about Lachie Neale. He's just re-signed for 3 years and says the stories that he was thinking of leaving were garbage.

Supposedly J Howe's asking price was absolute rubbish as well.

Where is all this coming from? Journo's or agents. We all know how many people were laying it on with Scully and many will never forgive his agent. 

I take any talk of any players changing clubs etc as bollocks now. Players, agents and journos all talk special speak nowadays which usually means the opposite to what's really going on. 

6 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Seriously WTF!!!!

Is it just me or is AFL journalism an utter farce.

Yesterday that poor excuse Robinson has s "scoop" that Jaegar O'Meara is being shipped around for an asking price of $750,000. Today his management comes out and angrily denies it. 

Not the first time this year Robbo's been caught making porkies. Ie Collingwood's drug cheating players.

And what about Lachie Neale. He's just re-signed for 3 years and says the stories that he was thinking of leaving were garbage.

Supposedly J Howe's asking price was absolute rubbish as well.

Where is all this coming from? Journo's or agents. We all know how many people were laying it on with Scully and many will never forgive his agent. 

I take any talk of any players changing clubs etc as bollocks now. Players, agents and journos all talk special speak nowadays which usually means the opposite to what's really going on. 

If you listened to Roos and Malthouse recently discussing player managers on SEN you might read between the lines on this. In fact you didn't have to do too much reading to understand some player managers are not held in particularly high regard...

Personally I still don't like/believe the role they played in the EFC debacle.

7 minutes ago, rjay said:

If you listened to Roos and Malthouse recently discussing player managers on SEN you might read between the lines on this. In fact you didn't have to do too much reading to understand some player managers are not held in particularly high regard...

Personally I still don't like/believe the role they played in the EFC debacle.

 

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

The media as a whole have absolutely zero accountability. In my line of work I've witnessed things first hand and spoken with the media then read or watched the story on TV only for it to be reported completely inaccurately. They really do just make things up to suit their agenda. Unfortunately it seems this extends to AFL journalists. 

There in lies the rub. Who believes anyone anymore. I believe Roos when he said we'd been discussing Hibberd. That's about the only trading info I have heard since the last trade period that has any veracity.

7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

The media as a whole have absolutely zero accountability. In my line of work I've witnessed things first hand and spoken with the media then read or watched the story on TV only for it to be reported completely inaccurately. They really do just make things up to suit their agenda. Unfortunately it seems this extends to AFL journalists. 

Never let the truth get in the road of a good story ET.

However I do think some managers intentionally plant stories for effect then deny them.

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

If I wasn't held accountable for my actions in my line of work I'd most likely take more risks. Journalists and the media aren't accountable, therefore they can make stupid comments and run with statements like Robbo does. 

 

Didn't used to be like this. Seems to me standards have crashed in that place since Sheahan left and Slobbo was elevated. Will never understand that elevation. Certainly a long way from the top of my list of AFL journos. 

Damn, opened this thread in the small, futile hope of reading that O'Meara was coming. :D

1 hour ago, It's Time said:

Seriously WTF!!!!

Is it just me or is AFL journalism an utter farce.

Yesterday that poor excuse Robinson has s "scoop" that Jaegar O'Meara is being shipped around for an asking price of $750,000. Today his management comes out and angrily denies it. 

Not the first time this year Robbo's been caught making porkies. Ie Collingwood's drug cheating players.

And what about Lachie Neale. He's just re-signed for 3 years and says the stories that he was thinking of leaving were garbage.

Supposedly J Howe's asking price was absolute rubbish as well.

Where is all this coming from? Journo's or agents. We all know how many people were laying it on with Scully and many will never forgive his agent. 

I take any talk of any players changing clubs etc as bollocks now. Players, agents and journos all talk special speak nowadays which usually means the opposite to what's really going on. 

In the journo's defense, it's in the management's best interests to deny it.

24 minutes ago, praha said:

In the journo's defense, it's in the management's best interests to deny it.

Then don't run the story. Especially if you can't substantiate what your publishing.

Edited June 29, 20169 yr by Ethan Tremblay

17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Then don't run the story. Especially if you can't substantiate what your publishing.

They gotta fill space everyday....

I wouldn't put it past a player agent (not O'Meara's) leaking that garbage to Slobbo, in the hope that he runs with it. Then that player agent can bump up his own client's price, using the fictitious O'Meara $figure as a bargaining tool.

As a former journo I can confirm that 99 percent of these stories come from player agents. They need the journos to help drive up the price of their player which in-turn means more money for them.

It's a common tactic used by player agents to scare clubs into paying overs to keep their players. A no-brainer really.

1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

As a former journo I can confirm that 99 percent of these stories come from player agents. They need the journos to help drive up the price of their player which in-turn means more money for them.

I'm conflicted in whether to believe this or not..

I don't think clubs give two shits about what a journo has to write about a player's worth. I'd suggest they have their own idea and wouldn't rely at all on what they hear in the media. 

Edited June 29, 20169 yr by Ethan Tremblay

15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I'm conflicted in whether to believe this or not..

Why?

3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

If I wasn't held accountable for my actions in my line of work I'd most likely take more risks. Journalists and the media aren't accountable, therefore they can make stupid comments and run with statements like Robbo does. 

 

Pimping can't be that difficult surely Ethan? Biffen's been doing it for years.

13 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Pimping can't be that difficult surely Ethan? Biffen's been doing it for years.

We prefer the term 'Gentlemen of Leisure.' 

3 hours ago, It's Time said:

Didn't used to be like this. Seems to me standards have crashed in that place since Sheahan left and Slobbo was elevated. Will never understand that elevation. Certainly a long way from the top of my list of AFL journos. 

They market Robbo as "the man of the people". NewsCorp sees "the people" as foul-mouthed, overweight, barely literate drunk bogans. There's your answer.

1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

As a former journo I can confirm that 99 percent of these stories come from player agents. They need the journos to help drive up the price of their player which in-turn means more money for them.

And the journos benefit by having copy to print. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement. 

The only problem I see in landing Prestia is what we need to give up to get him - forget our picks for the moment, as we know they'll have to come in to play.  But what players on our list are expendable, and worth enough, that we can use them as part of the deal?  I guess it all depends on how supporters rate Prestia, as AdamFarr would be happy to hand over Salem, Hogan and Viney to get him, while others think next years pick and ANB would be enough which, as an example, is not enough to get the job done.  I'm interested to hear what others think is a worthwhile and, above all else, logical trade that would get the deal over the line.

 

34 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

The only problem I see in landing Prestia is what we need to give up to get him - forget our picks for the moment, as we know they'll have to come in to play.  But what players on our list are expendable, and worth enough, that we can use them as part of the deal?  I guess it all depends on how supporters rate Prestia, as AdamFarr would be happy to hand over Salem, Hogan and Viney to get him, while others think next years pick and ANB would be enough which, as an example, is not enough to get the job done.  I'm interested to hear what others think is a worthwhile and, above all else, logical trade that would get the deal over the line.

 

Yeah, not quite...

Just now, AdamPleb said:

Yeah, not quite...

I left a few players off, yeah?  

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I left a few players off, yeah?  

Oh, yeah. Of course. Throw in Truck, Gus and Clarry.

Bad luck for O'Meara as he is out for the rest of the season.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jaeger-omeara-set-to-miss-rest-of-2016-afl-season-with-knee-injury-may-have-played-final-game-for-gold-coast-suns/news-story/99c1fb4616da6915f0b8fe3dad60eb82

Reminds me of when Jonno Patton was going to leave GWS (rumoured to go to WB), was injured and signed up with Giants almost immediately.  The suitor got cold feet.

O'Meara may be in the same boat and will sign up with GCS soon.  Unless, he is doing a 'Scully' has his deal all signed up and is now protecting himself against further injury.

 

Edited July 26, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero