37 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

... they followed up the next year by taking O'rourke and Plowman ahead of Stringer, Wines, McRae. 

... because everyone rated O'Rourke and Plowman ahead of Stringer, Wines, McRae.

19 hours ago, bing181 said:

... because everyone rated O'Rourke and Plowman ahead of Stringer, Wines, McRae.

No they didn't, especially Plowman.

GWS went down the road of recruiting blokes from the same junior club to keep a tight bond of draftees, rather than taking those who were rated at going No.1 and 2. Consequently seeing Toumpas slide to us at 4 when realistically he should have gone higher..

We would've had Wines if they'd taken Toumpas. Sliding doors!

12 hours ago, faultydet said:

GWS mads the mistake of recruiting players from the same junior club, or the same state, as a way of attempting to alleviate the "go home" factor. They should have backed themselves, and taken best available.

They avoided Toumpass with this strategy though

11 hours ago, bing181 said:

... because everyone rated O'Rourke and Plowman ahead of Stringer, Wines, McRae.

No they didn't, at all..

O'Rourke was expected to go to Richmond at around pick 9 and Plowman no early then six but potentially outside the top 10,

they simply wanted to keep mates together to avoid the go home factor

Imagine if they had Whitfield, Wines and Stringer with those three picks now.

 

2 hours ago, SaberFang said:

We would've had Wines if they'd taken Toumpas. Sliding doors!

Always so many "ifs"

IF we had picked Wines, or Stringer, we may have won a few more games and never had a look in at Brayshaw and Petracca.

Time to move on.

 

7 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Always so many "ifs"

IF we had picked Wines, or Stringer, we may have won a few more games and never had a look in at Brayshaw and Petracca.

Time to move on.

 

Oh I agree, I'm just pointing out the futility of dwelling on the past. We can't change it so why worry about it? It is what it is.

7 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Always so many "ifs"

IF we had picked Wines, or Stringer, we may have won a few more games and never had a look in at Brayshaw and Petracca.

Time to move on.

 

Oh I agree, I'm just pointing out the futility of dwelling on the past. We can't change it so why worry about it? It is what it is.

3 hours ago, monoccular said:

Always so many "ifs"

IF we had picked Wines, or Stringer, we may have won a few more games and never had a look in at Brayshaw and Petracca.

Time to move on.

 

Quadruple like. It is so, so pointless arguing about what could have been 

3 hours ago, monoccular said:

Always so many "ifs"

IF we had picked Wines, or Stringer, we may have won a few more games and never had a look in at Brayshaw and Petracca.

Time to move on.

 

reminds me of the spartans. Philip ii of macedon sent a message to the spartans " "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city."  to which the spartans replied "if". philip and his son alexander (the great) declined to invade sparta.

I don't believe that it is a recruiting failure, simply because someone taken after your selection ends up a better player, but rather, it is when you take someone with a high pick, who is never going to make it in the  AFL and as we have seen in the past, even at VFL level.

Obviously players develop at different levels and will do differently if in good clubs or poor clubs.

But when you waste a high pick, on a bloke who just can't play at an AFL standard, after being given time to develop, that is when you have a recruiting failure IMO.

hey where does 'clarry' come from? Is it a redhead thing ie claret or what

"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there." The opening line from The Go Between, L.P. Hartley.

I never miss an opportunity to trot that one out. And clearly readers of a football supporters' forum will be very receptive to that information.

1 minute ago, bingers said:

"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there." The opening line from The Go Between, L.P. Hartley.

I never miss an opportunity to trot that one out. And clearly readers of a football supporters' forum will be very receptive to that information.

1 hour ago, Curry & Beer said:

hey where does 'clarry' come from? Is it a redhead thing ie claret or what

A previous coach misread his name as Clarence rather than Clayton.  It was mentioned in an article a while back. 

9 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

A previous coach misread his name as Clarence rather than Clayton.  It was mentioned in an article a while back. 

oh cool thanks, so is that what they call him around the club and is that what we should yell out at the ground?

7 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

oh cool thanks, so is that what they call him around the club and is that what we should yell out at the ground?

The parousia?

9 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

oh cool thanks, so is that what they call him around the club and is that what we should yell out at the ground?

C&B in the MCC it will inevitably be "Jordie Mckenzie" or "Number 13" for  the first half of the year.

2 minutes ago, hells bells said:

C&B in the MCC it will inevitably be "Jordie Mckenzie" or "Number 13" for  the first half of the year.

I'm in the MCC

16 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

I'm in the MCC

You can use either then.  ?

1 hour ago, hells bells said:

You can use either then.  ?

I'm also in the MCC, but I expect to hear a few renditions of "well done Bater!" and "wow, Blease has bulked up a bit!"

I don't know why the MCC members, the ones who fork out the most every year to see the Dees play, are considered to be the least knowledgeable supporters

There's an obvious level of commitment/dedication there, simply by virtue of the cash you have to fork out

 

23 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

I don't know why the MCC members, the ones who fork out the most every year to see the Dees play, are considered to be the least knowledgeable supporters

There's an obvious level of commitment/dedication there, simply by virtue of the cash you have to fork out

 

So wrong in so many ways.

5 minutes ago, Elusive Tunbridge said:

So wrong in so many ways.

oh really well IDGAF what you think