I was hoping never have to endure the M Jones/ Bail combo again.

Probably mean spirited but it has been tried for years now and never worked. The doggies mids will massacre us.

M Jones was down watching Casey today. So was Pedersen, who has come along a few times lately. Heritier has been there in recent weeks but not today, same with N Jones.

Say and think what you like about a player's ability on the field (and I'm not a fan of some of these guys), but a seniors player who makes the effort to watch Casey games always gets a few credits in my book.

Edit: Sorry, that's not to have a go at any above posts. Probably unrelated in fact. Just a separate post in its own right.

I was hoping never have to endure the M Jones/ Bail combo again.

Probably mean spirited but it has been tried for years now and never worked. The doggies mids will massacre us.

This combo in the midfield would be disastrous but it's worked with both as defensive forwards (well once anyway) and it should stop the Bullies run out of defence. Yep my glass is half full

I was hoping never have to endure the M Jones/ Bail combo again.

Probably mean spirited but it has been tried for years now and never worked. The doggies mids will massacre us.

Just in case you'd forgotten, when we beat the Dogs in Round 8 both Bail and M Jones played.

So, too, did Riley, Spencer, Fitzpatrick, Newton and Toumpas, all of whom have since been dropped to make way for better-performing players.

Just in case you'd forgotten, when we beat the Dogs in Round 8 both Bail and M Jones played.

So, too, did Riley, Spencer, Fitzpatrick, Newton and Toumpas, all of whom have since been dropped to make way for better-performing players.

You've brightened my evening. Let's hope history repeats.

Dogs are going well with uncontested possession play it on our terms and we win .

Have Riley and Newton had their cards marked as neither seem to b able to get in the seniors.

Have Riley and Newton had their cards marked as neither seem to b able to get in the seniors.

Both have particular qualtiies.

Riley is the smash and extract type and Newton is the outside finisher who snags a goal or two.

I reckon they'll be kept on the list.

Newton was good vs the Doggies last time.

Have Riley and Newton had their cards marked as neither seem to b able to get in the seniors.

No sign of Riley today at Casey. Don't know what that means.

Both have particular qualtiies.

Riley is the smash and extract type and Newton is the outside finisher who snags a goal or two.

I reckon they'll be kept on the list.

In fact, I think this is the problem too.

Neither are adding strings to their bow.

Riley is starting to get more of the ball at VFL level but his disposal remains poor and that's been the main reason why he's struggling at AFL level - he's a liability with the ball in hand. Meanwhile for Newton he's laying more tackles but he still doesn't appear to be getting enough of it through the middle, which again is why he's struggling at AFL level - doesn't impact games enough.

Dogs haven't played a top 8 team since round 7, they've had a very soft draw.

Let's hope they get a bit ahead of themselves and believe in their own hype.

You've brightened my evening. Let's hope history repeats.

For a bit more optimism (this assumes Richmond beats GC tomorrow and keeps Geelong in 9th):

• The Dogs haven't beaten a top 8 side since Round 5;
• In fact, they haven't even played a top 8 side since Round 7;
• Since they last played us (in Round 8), they have played 9 of the bottom 10 sides, with the 10th and final side being us, who they play this weekend.

Their recent form is good, but should be considered in context (I think we'll lose tomorrow, for the record).

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6 down 3 to go. Cmon Dees.

Bail for Salem. What a nightmare. Funny how you can be listed 4-6 and then it ends up being about 14 weeks.

Also 2 weeks ago I felt sure I'd seen the last of Bail and M.Jones. Here we go again

Bail for Salem. What a nightmare. Funny how you can be listed 4-6 and then it ends up being about 14 weeks.

Also 2 weeks ago I felt sure I'd seen the last of Bail and M.Jones. Here we go again

If it makes you feel any better both of them played in the win @ Geelong

If it makes you feel any better both of them played in the win @ Geelong

And then played themselves out of the team the week later, but point taken

We have beaten them twice this year.

They have played nobody in 2 months.

If we control Stringer and the mids we should win.

Just the Venue that is the issue for some reason.

But they are not a top team.

At all.

No sign of Riley today at Casey. Don't know what that means.

He's prob got the flu.

No sign of Riley today at Casey. Don't know what that means.

Actually saw this on the web site "Midfielder Aidan Riley has now been named an emergency".

There's our answer.

Maxxy should dominate their rucks, we have the right match ups for their tall forwards but Stringer could be the destroyer.

We will need to make Murphy and Easton Wood accountable otherwise they will rip us to shreds - can't afford to have anyone loose in the backline for the opposition as we have in the past.

The midfield without Tyson and Vandenberg looks very shallow.

We're not without a chance but there is no margin for error.

We have beaten them twice this year.

They have played nobody in 2 months.

If we control Stringer and the mids we should win.

Just the Venue that is the issue for some reason.

But they are not a top team.

At all.

You can only beat the sides your fixtured to play. The thing that will be interesting next year for them is given their improved year they will probably get a significantly tougher draw which could see them take a backward step.

They have done the job very well in recent weeks, when they get their running game going they can be very difficult to stop and we still have had issues with stopping free flowing teams that get on a run.

If it's a tight contest (something I think Roos will try to push for) and we stay within 6-12 points at 3 quarter time we're a show. But we can't let them get the jump on us.

Dogs haven't played a top 8 team since round 7, they've had a very soft draw.

Let's hope they get a bit ahead of themselves and believe in their own hype.

We are not in the top 8 either.

We beat the Cats with a few big names playing. Still a big chance. No room for complacency as the Doggies won't go away.

Maxxy should dominate their rucks, we have the right match ups for their tall forwards but Stringer could be the destroyer.

We will need to make Murphy and Easton Wood accountable otherwise they will rip us to shreds - can't afford to have anyone loose in the backline for the opposition as we have in the past.

The midfield without Tyson and Vandenberg looks very shallow.

We're not without a chance but there is no margin for error.

Bail/M Jones have a massive role to play on one of those HBs.