No Viv Michie....ever.

Maybe he had the flu/illness as other posters have used to excuse their favourite players having a quiet game on the weekend...I thought Michie was ok early and I would give him another go.

Toumpas played well at Etihad against St Kilda and I would bring him in.

Yes, he made a big impact and probably deserves to stay as the sub..in my opinion we have too many kids/first year players out there, Hogan, Vandenberg, Angus, ANB, Harmes, Stretch....these guys can't be expected to beat seasoned Afl players. I am happy with Hogan, Angus and Vandenberg but I think anymore than three of these in the same team is exposing us.

Trouble is that those with experience playing in Casey are proven NQRs

Yes, he made a big impact and probably deserves to stay as the sub..in my opinion we have too many kids/first year players out there, Hogan, Vandenberg, Angus, ANB, Harmes, Stretch....these guys can't be expected to beat seasoned Afl players. I am happy with Hogan, Angus and Vandenberg but I think anymore than three of these in the same team is exposing us.

Who would you rather then? Rohan Bail, Dean Terlich, Jordie McKenzie, Aidan Riley?

Salem seems ready. Lumumba should be the one to make way, but we all know he won't.

I'd be looking to give a couple of the kids a break. Glad to hear Roos acknowledged some of the good things Michie did. He certainly wasn't the worst out there, horrendous kick at goal aside.

In: Salem, Vanders, Newton

Out: Harmes, Brayshaw, Neal-Bullen

M Jones the sub.

Out michie/m jones

In Salem

Dunn's first quarter was horrid, but to his credit his next three were great.

Something I noticed creep back into his game was his attack on the ball - might have been the first time this year he attacked it hard and provided drive out of the backline.

Disappointing year, disappointing first quarter, but great quarters 2-4 I thought.

I don't disagree with your argument, but I don't buy that Michie wasn't our worst player (or equal with Garlett).

Michie, unfortunately, is a vanilla midfielder who is easily replaceable, and over whom I would pick VDB every day of the week

In. Vandenburg

Out. Michie

Out: Michie. Just not up to it.

In: Van Demon and Salem

Still want to see Newton

Outs:

Lumumba - need his dash against the dogs, but pointless if he keeps handing them the footy.

Michie - too slow for the dogs

Out: Michie & Lumumba, hopefully both to spend the rest of the year at Casey.

In: Don't really care. Salem and VDB if fit.

Out - Harmes, Michie

In - Newton, Salem (vandenBerg doesn't seem ready)

Age Football

Michael Gleeson

FOOTBALL WRITER

NORTH MELBOURNE 7.4 9.4 12.10 19.13 (127) MELBOURNE 2.0 6.4 11.6 14.8 (92)

Goals: North Melbourne: L Thomas 5 J Waite 3 B Brown 2 B Harvey 2 R Nahas 2 S Higgins 2 B Cunnington B Jacobs D Petrie. Melbourne: J Hogan 4 C Dawes 3 A Brayshaw A Neal-Bullen J Garlett J Viney J Watts M Gawn N Jones.

Best: North Melbourne: Higgins, Goldstein, Cunnington, Thomas, Jacobs, Waite, Dal Santo, Harvey. Melbourne: Hogan, Dawes, Viney, Tyson, Cross, McDonald, Michie.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/north-melbourne-kangaroos-win-despite-scare-from-demons-20150809-giv1jy.html#ixzz3iP0JDjAi

Salem should be in. I personally thought Michie was good, his pass to Gus that lead to his goal was class.

Also, any word on Kent? Could do with him.

Based on your last line:

Out: Stuie

In: Inanimate object

Garlett out? FM, one bad game and you want to drop him.

Now now Ethan, remain calm.

That type of comment will get you into serious trouble with SPIO - the Society for the Protection of Inanimate Objects.

Who would you rather then? Rohan Bail, Dean Terlich, Jordie McKenzie, Aidan Riley?

For team balance yes, too many kids in our team at 1 time, Newton can certainly impact a game and Bail can get his 20 touches at times, which is a lot more than what our first year players are getting.

I don't think North Melbourne had any first year players in their team on the week end and we had 4, at times we have had 5 and 6 first year players on the field.

I would be happy for us to cycle a few marginal players through in the last 4 games so we can have a good look before end of season decision time and perhaps to lift their tradability. .

Fitzpatrick please! Toumpas, Riley, JKH, even White and I would give Salem a run if ready, not that he is in doubt as the future.

Fitzy is odd, groomed this season as a key backman, played there for one game in AFL, did his job well, then thrown forward next game due to injuries and in a belting, was lost and then banished back to VFL, as I remember it all? Papers seem to be stamped but not sure why?

Apart from being one of the oldest and most experienced sides, North also played an extra big - the same as Hawthorn, Freo and Sydney do - which may explain why they are on top.

Until Brown got a corkie in the second term that extra big was killing us - it had very little to do with age, it had more to do with size.

The big factor this week is trying to determine which players are over the flu and also spotting ones that are coming down with flu.

I can't see many changes - Salem has now done his time (three games in VFL) and is highly likely to be included.

VB would also come in, if his ankle enables him too, which I doubt based on other reports.

Fitzy spanked Boyd last time so is an outside chance if he's over the flu. Boyd had a good one in twos and will probably replace Stringer, if he is deemed injured.

Our worst players on the weekend aren't usually poor which is why who goes out is a very tricky decision.

But the Dogs have a good blend of youth and experience like us and we did happen to beat them last time, although this time it is at our graveyard stadium.

Maybe he had the flu/illness as other posters have used to excuse their favourite players having a quiet game on the weekend...I thought Michie was ok early and I would give him another go.

Toumpas played well at Etihad against St Kilda and I would bring him in.

Touche, HL.

But Viv M missed targets from 30m with no pressure.

I'd rather we try someone else.

Maybe he had the flu/illness as other posters have used to excuse their favourite players having a quiet game on the weekend...I thought Michie was ok early and I would give him another go.

Toumpas played well at Etihad against St Kilda and I would bring him in.

Good point I thought Toumpas turned the corner in that match. He had a blinder in the third quarter if I remember correctly, 11 possessions and set up a number of goals but then a week or two later he was gone? I think too that Etihad might suit him and if over the flu maybe its time to have another look.

Good point I thought Toumpas turned the corner in that match. He had a blinder in the third quarter if I remember correctly, 11 possessions and set up a number of goals but then a week or two later he was gone? I think too that Etihad might suit him and if over the flu maybe its time to have another look.

Nothing to loose, no one expects us to win this game...Roos could try a few things like he did against Geelong!!

Yes, he made a big impact and probably deserves to stay as the sub..in my opinion we have too many kids/first year players out there, Hogan, Vandenberg, Angus, ANB, Harmes, Stretch....these guys can't be expected to beat seasoned Afl players. I am happy with Hogan, Angus and Vandenberg but I think anymore than three of these in the same team is exposing us.

???? Two of the six you mentioned didn't play & one was sub. Played for a quarter

Touche, HL.

But Viv M missed targets from 30m with no pressure.

I'd rather we try someone else.

When was that because i must have missed that bit..

I thought Michie was good actually

When was that because i must have missed that bit..

I thought Michie was good actually

Took a mark on the back flank in either the first or third term. Kicked the ball inside to Viney and missed while he was under no pressure. Horrible turnover.

???? Two of the six you mentioned didn't play & one was sub. Played for a quarter

Against Essendon and St Kilda we had all six playing and lost two games we should have won. I admire Roos for playing the kids but we can't expect too much with so many kids out on the ground.

Against Essendon and St Kilda we had all six playing and lost two games we should have won. I admire Roos for playing the kids but we can't expect too much with so many kids out on the ground.

We were 8th last round for players total games played. I don't think we've been playing a particularly young side at all.

The Dogs, scarily, were 18th.

When was that because i must have missed that bit..

I thought Michie was good actually

VFL at best.

I've got a glimpse and taste of a bright, new future.

He ain't a part of it.

We were 8th last round for players total games played. I don't think we've been playing a particularly young side at all.

The Dogs, scarily, were 18th.

and they would still be 18th without Boyd, Morris, Crameri and Picken with an even younger average age. but it would be a massive change to their side and their ability to take the heat off the kids

We were 8th last round for players total games played. I don't think we've been playing a particularly young side at all.

The Dogs, scarily, were 18th.

where did you get that from?

where did you get that from?

Chart was shown on Talking Footy tonight

Chart was shown on Talking Footy tonight

yeah, saw that

we were around 2000 games iirc

which for a starting 22 is a little under 100 games per player......doesn't sound right

that got me thinking it was for the whole list (40 players or 44 incl rookies)

so, would like to know exactly what it is based on

yeah, saw that

we were around 2000 games iirc

which for a starting 22 is a little under 100 games per player......doesn't sound right

that got me thinking it was for the whole list (40 players or 44 incl rookies)

so, would like to know exactly what it is based on

Why doesn't it sound right? 90 games average would be about right, equals about 5 years on the list.

Cross, Lumumba, Vince and Jones would have played about 850 between the four of them!

Im changing my selections. Originally i had newton coming based on the fact he was named in the best but i just read justin plapps player review and he mention that Newton was disappointing..?? Quite bizarre

And honestly going by reports it sounds like Salem was BOG for the Melbourne players.. yet wasn't named in Caseys best..