Means we will have two Number 2 draft picks to debut in 2016: Christian Petracca and Jack Trengove!

Dont forget draft pick 2 form the 2015 draft

Dont forget draft pick 2 form the 2015 draft

Whach ya talking about willis? Don't you mean pick 18?

And within this post should be a reality check for all Deelanders

Sure it's bad news and unfortunate for Christian and us as supporters but there could be far worse things happen to him

Dedicated young man as he showed last season and the ACL'S aren't as devastating as they used to be

For all those feeling devastated and gutted and the world is ending, you woke up this morning and took a breath = it's a good day

Thanks PSD

Monday was really hard core. Workplace bullying led my dear friend to take his life.

A lesson to us all indeed....

RIP Harvs....

Thanks PSD

Monday was really hard core. Workplace bullying led my dear friend to take his life.

A lesson to us all indeed....

RIP Harvs....

Sorry to hear this 'SWYL'...

I second that, fascinating insight and i've learnt a lot fro your posts. I also second the idea of raising the draft age. For me its a no brainer.

However for many reasons it may never happen (though it is interesting hat it has happened in the NBL) so perhaps an alternative is drafted players are not allowed to play an AFL game 'till their second year and their training loads are modified (as i guess they are to an extent already but if there would be limit to how much you could modify it currently where there there is an expectation they'l play AFL footy).

Webber i'd be interested to know if doing the above would decrease the likelihood of injuries such as ligament damage, ACLs, PCLs, osteo pubis etc.

A couple of different issues here. Traumatic injuries such as ACL rupture, hamstring tear, shoulder dislocation and more are hard to objectively blame on youth, other than the fact they statistically happen more commonly in the young 'uns. There are theories that relate to pure tensile strength of the structures being greater as we move into mid twenties, then the 'balance' and harmonised function of the muscles being something that improves with age. I'd say it's a combination. Then again, they'll always happen at any age because sometimes Barry Hall is running at you and there's no getting out of the way. Crunch, crack, rip. 'Overuse' injuries such as Osteitis Pubis and stress fractures are a function of repeated load on a structure where it is still arguably immature, and where the dynamic balance as mentioned above are sub optimal. Something like OP is both prevented, subverted and treated much better now than 15 years ago, because we've targeted the muscle function and coordination of the muscles acting at the pelvis....Abs, gluts, adductors, hams, quads ('core stability'). Weight bearing loads are managed more diligently now to keep ahead of bony stress reactions much better also. There's no accounting for individual variation though, and sports science is constantly looking for correlates between certain injuries and specific physical markers, e.g. hamstring flexibility and hams tears. As such, would love to know if there is something in Petracca's physical makeup that could have indicated he might do his ACL in his teens. No such knowledge as yet.

Sorry Webber no insult or innuendo intended. As a man of simple words lets just say that i am not sure that I understand your opinion but gee its an impressive one.

And there I was thinking you might have been just a presumptuous smart**se.

And there I was thinking you might have been just a presumptuous smart**se.

touche my friend. you are also good at fencing

Sorry to hear this 'SWYL'...

Thanks rjay...So was i when i took the dreaded phone call.....

So you're clearly not lumping yourself in with those few folk then?

Well there's about 3 people in this thread that haven't dropped their bundles like little infants and I am one of them, so you work it out

Better a new kid than Jones.

That is all I will console myself with.

Still shitz me to tears.

Jones and 15-20 others

Way to completely misinterpret what I said. I don't give a stuff what anyone's feelings are but to put down others because they are understandably upset at the news is ridiculous.

Have to laugh at your "level-headed" comment as well considering your posting history on here, you'd have to be one of the more bipolar posters on the site.

which one of the two of us is crying buckets of tears mate

Christian quoted on the MFC website about his knee surgery........."as long as I get through surgery...."

We hope so too young man, perhaps I should say that I will be praying for you...despite being a lapsed Catholic.

Webber, I told you this was serious!

We should have drafted that McCartin bloke..

Jones and 15-20 others

Really?

You would rather that our number 2 draft pick, an 18 year old kid described as the best youngster in the country, suffer a serious knee injury in his first pre-season than 15-20 other players on our list?

I would have thought Petracca would be up there in our most valuable players (based on market value) and would be in the leading group of players who I'd least like to see suffer a serious knee injury.

Of course, if you are just looking at 2015 in isolation, others would provide more value to the team this year. However you can't just automatically conclude that he will be cherry ripe from 2016 and beyond. I absolutely hope it's a one-off occurence but you can never be sure with knee injuries.

Had my acl done in 1993 as a 34 year old after a rugby hit in the states (playing for Lynchburg)

Still playing superrules and amo thirds 22 years later very happily

Same technique - hammy graft

Thanks PSD

Monday was really hard core. Workplace bullying led my dear friend to take his life.

A lesson to us all indeed....

RIP Harvs....

Sorry to hear that. It is just awful, that someone can be so upset by others, that they end, or attempt to end their life.

Sorry to hear that. It is just awful, that someone can be so upset by others, that they end, or attempt to end their life.

My commiserations also SWYL.

Bullying is appalling in whatever form. Usually the resort of cowards.

Kindness, sympathy and understanding are undervalued virtues. Particularly kindness.

Thanks PSD

Monday was really hard core. Workplace bullying led my dear friend to take his life.

A lesson to us all indeed....

RIP Harvs....

Thats terrible mate, I feel even sorrier for the ars holes who gave him a hard time may they die slowly.

Thanks PSD

Monday was really hard core. Workplace bullying led my dear friend to take his life.

A lesson to us all indeed....

RIP Harvs....

Mate my condolences to you and your mates and family who have been affected.

A tough world we live in.

Thats terrible mate, I feel even sorrier for the ars holes who gave him a hard time may they die slowly.

Yes i am trying to get more info...He worked for a very big well known company...they don't say a lot

They did pay for the funeral tho....

Really?

You would rather that our number 2 draft pick, an 18 year old kid described as the best youngster in the country, suffer a serious knee injury in his first pre-season than 15-20 other players on our list?

I would have thought Petracca would be up there in our most valuable players (based on market value) and would be in the leading group of players who I'd least like to see suffer a serious knee injury.

Of course, if you are just looking at 2015 in isolation, others would provide more value to the team this year. However you can't just automatically conclude that he will be cherry ripe from 2016 and beyond. I absolutely hope it's a one-off occurence but you can never be sure with knee injuries.

yeh that's the unknown part - i am looking in isolation because the idea that the player is now damaged forever is not one I am prepared to entertain

We should have drafted that McCartin bloke..

He went at pick 1 Einstein.

He went at pick 1 Einstein.

shhh !!

Thanks PSD

Monday was really hard core. Workplace bullying led my dear friend to take his life.

A lesson to us all indeed....

RIP Harvs....

What a terrible thing. I hope those responsible are made to account for themselves.

Let's hope he can use this time to get his knee right and fitness up to play in the middle where we want him for our 2016 finals season.