Call me a bluff old trade time traditionalist, but I just can't bring myself to believe this will happen. Nothing against you Ryan, just can't believe it in any way, shape or form.

I can confirm that we are definitely giving up picks 2 & 3 for Kennedy and 39. The pick we will receive will go to Collingwood to get Lumumba. The Clark deal seems to be very messy thanks to Collingwood, expect to get next to nothing for Clark.

He's good but FMD , he's not worth all that!

I can confirm that we are definitely giving up picks 2 & 3 for Kennedy and 39. The pick we will receive will go to Collingwood to get Lumumba. The Clark deal seems to be very messy thanks to Collingwood, expect to get next to nothing for Clark.

I dont understand this riddle?

The Clark deal seems to be very messy thanks to Collingwood, expect to get next to nothing for Clark.

Well someone quoted Balme on SEN saying Cats and Dees had settled on a deal a week ago. If you are correct we agreed over a week ago to get nearly nothing for MC. Why?

Yeah, I can't see us giving up 2 picks for one player. Josh is a gun and a great bloke, but no deal. It'll be interesting to see how the next 48 hours pans out.

I can confirm that we are definitely giving up picks 2 & 3 for Kennedy and 39. The pick we will receive will go to Collingwood to get Lumumba. The Clark deal seems to be very messy thanks to Collingwood, expect to get next to nothing for Clark.

Neil Balme was just on the radio saying the Clark/Lumumba/Varcoe deal was as good as done and that it would be a fairly simple 3-way deal.

Has a kunce got any uses?

I kunce think of any at the moment

Fk I love the trade period... The bigger clubs hold out and act like c#$%s while the little clubs who do the right thing get screwd.

Although I am excited for jpk surely pick 2&3 net more then just jpk.

The sans first rd pick has to be involved as well

Wont get done. Collingwood will decide they want a D grade player from Sydney for pick 80 and the trade will be held up as we wait for Buckley to fly to Vegas to hitup the clubs to convince said player to join Collingwoodm

I can confirm that we are definitely giving up picks 2 & 3 for Kennedy and 39. The pick we will receive will go to Collingwood to get Lumumba. The Clark deal seems to be very messy thanks to Collingwood, expect to get next to nothing for Clark.

If what you are saying is true Ryan, then it would a horrendously bad trade for us. There has to be more too it because this trade has the potential to cripple us if Kennedy gets an injury down the track. You can't give up that much.

I can confirm that we are definitely giving up picks 2 & 3 for Kennedy and 39. The pick we will receive will go to Collingwood to get Lumumba. The Clark deal seems to be very messy thanks to Collingwood, expect to get next to nothing for Clark.

No way.

I wont be happy.

Need to keep at least 1 of our 2 best picks.

If we look to getting next to nothing for clarke then dont trade let him take his chances in the draft. This club needs to stand up to blackmail from players such as clarke who was happy enough to take our money for several years now wants to go to a more successful club to resume his career leaving us with virtually nothing.

This all seems very fishy. Clarke and Lumumba trades blowing up, no frost deal, contrary to Mahoney chat just a few hours ago.

Could this be a very well played troll?

Not from my source.

Mate.

Are you going to give us some sort of idea of where this source is from within the wider expanses of what is the AFL?

Or are you going to continue to ignore?

I appreciate the fact you've come out and said what you have been told, but ultimatum comments without any context are the most agitating type of comment.

Give us something.

Please.

Edited October 14, 201411 yr by stevethemanjordan

He's good but FMD , he's not worth all that!

ok..devils advocate...and soley that fwiw

theres the old expression ...a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush...i.e 2 ...but of non definable ability etc.

thats exactly the scenario here...a gun mid in hand v 2 possible gun mids as picks.

interesting

I honestly don't have an opinion either way, all I know is I'm tired of winning 4 games a year

Pick 2 and 3 for Kennedy and Frost (from GWS for pick 39) is an absolute win. One superstar and one long term known quantity who is known quality with lots of upside. 2 and 3 are UNKNOWN QUANTITIES!

Mate.

Are you going to give us some sort of idea of where this source is from within the wider expanses of what is the AFL?

Or are you going to continue to ignore?

I appreciate the fact you've come out and said what you have been told, but ultimatum comments without any context are the most agitating type of comment.

Give us something.

Please.

Steve use your common sense, we aint going to trade Pick 2 & 3 for Kennedy alone

Sydney are that close to a flag, really would you trade out your best midfielder, look at their midfield without Kennedy not really big enough to match it with Freo and Hawks

Balmey who would know has already kiboshed the story of Collingwood making the HL/MC/TV trade messy it's agreed to will be done

If we look to getting next to nothing for clarke then dont trade let him take his chances in the draft. This club needs to stand up to blackmail from players such as clarke who was happy enough to take our money for several years now wants to go to a more successful club to resume his career leaving us with virtually nothing.

That ship's already sailed! If we did that bow it would just look like we're throwing a hissy fit.

Feel this is Collingwood little FU for Clark wasting their time.

This all seems very fishy. Clarke and Lumumba trades blowing up, no frost deal, contrary to Mahoney chat just a few hours ago.

Could this be a very well played troll?

Why would you also put yourself in to "deep trouble" for the sake of demonlanders... Yep, I've decided, I'm calling BS.

I'd do 2,3 and 23 for Kennedy and Mitchell but don't think they'd trade Mitchell if their best midfield so won't happen

Pick 2 and 3 for Kennedy and Frost (from GWS for pick 39) is an absolute win. One superstar and one long term known quantity who is known quality with lots of upside. 2 and 3 are UNKNOWN QUANTITIES!

Pick 3 is much more of a known quantity than Frost. Ok not exactly the player but the value of the pick has it's quality itself. Frost could be delisted in a couple of years. Plus we could get him in the PSD for free.

At the same time I don't think there's anyway this deal gets done.

Sydney are in a premiership window now with Tippett, Franklin, McVeigh, Richards, Grundy, Goodes, Pyke.

They have a top 3 midfielder coming in. They have the number 1 rated player in the pool for next year in their academy and another top 20 father son.

They are the last club in the league who would want high picks even if the deal is too good to refuse. If this was getting done it would need Kennedy working the media like the Beams and Ryder camps did to even stand a chance.

ok..devils advocate...and soley that fwiw

theres the old expression ...a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush...i.e 2 ...but of non definable ability etc.

thats exactly the scenario here...a gun mid in hand v 2 possible gun mids as picks.

interesting

This all seems very fishy. Clarke and Lumumba trades blowing up, no frost deal, contrary to Mahoney chat just a few hours ago.

Could this be a very well played troll?

Two posts within 1 minute of each other referring to fishing & birds - It's got to be a sign.

Steve use your common sense, we aint going to trade Pick 2 & 3 for Kennedy alone

Sydney are that close to a flag, really would you trade out your best midfielder, look at their midfield without Kennedy not really big enough to match it with Freo and Hawks

Balmey who would know has already kiboshed the story of Collingwood making the HL/MC/TV trade messy it's agreed to will be done

My common sense says we wouldn't do such a thing.

However we've got a bloke who's jumped on 'land claiming it a done deal and it's a major niggle.

Edited October 14, 201411 yr by stevethemanjordan

Pick 2 and 3 for Kennedy and Frost (from GWS for pick 39) is an absolute win. One superstar and one long term known quantity who is known quality with lots of upside. 2 and 3 are UNKNOWN QUANTITIES!

sorry webber this is illogical...

unless

you are simply bundling the outcomes

2 and 3 needs more than one player from harbour town.....blacktown aint a harbour,....just saying