Mahoney:

"Jack then gradually increased his loading which included a period of time on the de-load treadmill before two weeks of running outside," Mahoney said.

"Unfortunately, Jack experienced some pain in the associated areas around his navicular whilst running. This was considered normal after not running for six months, however further scans on Monday have unfortunately shown further damage to his navicular.

I know, but I just can't bring myself to believe they'd be so f*****g stupid.

It hurts too much.

Mahoney:

"Jack then gradually increased his loading which included a period of time on the de-load treadmill before two weeks of running outside," Mahoney said.

"Unfortunately, Jack experienced some pain in the associated areas around his navicular whilst running. This was considered normal after not running for six months, however further scans on Monday have unfortunately shown further damage to his navicular.

Not to be a smartass but that sounds like the medical team severely underestimated the stage he was at in recovery for this to have happened.

Amazing how Daniel Cross can break his leg and return to the game within the one season, and now Trenners will be out for likely two whole seasons, if not the rest of his career.

Whichever way you spin this one it is a terrible look for the club.

Really disappointed for Jack.

I hope you weren't one of the one's talking about loyalty and all. Keep him on the list and give him the best chance at a career. He's more than earned that.

Just as a matter of interest Bob, what's the difference between:-

(a) keeping an injured player on your senior list and then putting him on your long term injury list and

(b) delisting the player and picking him up as a rookie?

Would there be advantages either way for a club or a player eg room in salary cap etc. (I assume the player gets paid either way).

Just as a matter of interest Bob, what's the difference between:-

(a) keeping an injured player on your senior list and then putting him on your long term injury list and

(b) delisting the player and picking him up as a rookie?

Would there be advantages either way for a club or a player eg room in salary cap etc. (I assume the player gets paid either way).

Wouldn't you have to pay out his final year of the contract (which would be considerably more than a rookie contract spot) then pay him the rookie contract amount? Also, Saints would be able to jump in at pick 1 if they were interested.

Wouldn't you have to pay out his final year of the contract (which would be considerably more than a rookie contract spot) then pay him the rookie contract amount? Also, Saints would be able to jump in at pick 1 if they were interested.

Don't think so - if I remember rightly, when we delisted Meesen and Newton when they were contracted, we picked them up on the rookie list without the payout. The Saints taking him would presumably mean they'll also take on his contract, which I can't imagine them doing given the condition he is in.

I don't believe in the rookie list so I prefer he stay on the primary list.

He has called for people to back him, not pity him.

The club that is stuck with him no matter what in 2015 should do just that.

The benefits of not delisting him are not immediate and/or obvious but are plentiful.

Don't think so - if I remember rightly, when we delisted Meesen and Newton when they were contracted, we picked them up on the rookie list without the payout. The Saints taking him would presumably mean they'll also take on his contract, which I can't imagine them doing given the condition he is in.

Nasher funny you mention Meesen. He had a similar foot problem that did his career in with us just as he put a string of solid games together. If I remember correctly he got a run at first ruck because Jamar had a crook foot as well and some time later Garland had foot stress problems! And we all know of Mitch's lisfranc problem. What is going on down there at AAMI? The curse?

If i'm a realist ...i'd say Trenners is cooked

if im an optimist .... id say he he'll give it a crack ( npi )

if i'm a pessimist......flowers can be sent.....

All we are left now is a remote chance that this is the proverbial blessing in disguise. Fate deals all the cards. Let Jack rest and get well, go north and get some sun and sand. Forget about him for six months and he'll comes back to kick arse.

With his broken foot.

So curious about what responsibility Dave Misson takes for these feet issues? M Clark x 2. Trengove x 3, Garland, Grimes, Jamar to name a few have all had issues in recent years. No coincidence surely?

So curious about what responsibility Dave Misson takes for these feet issues? M Clark x 2. Trengove x 3, Garland, Grimes, Jamar to name a few have all had issues in recent years. No coincidence surely?

Blame Bohdan

So curious about what responsibility Dave Misson takes for these feet issues? M Clark x 2. Trengove x 3, Garland, Grimes, Jamar to name a few have all had issues in recent years. No coincidence surely?

Good evening Troll

A navicular problem is hardly a problem that Misson can be held accountable for....so take a hike lightweight

I wanted him to stay but not like this. We have been royally effed by some recent injuries to players who had the ability to take our club up the ladder. Really gutted for Trenners.

I hope he's able to come back from this, but it feels like this is an injury injury you either get right the first time or never at all.

I'm usually an optimist but I feel really sorry for Jack (even if he doesn't want me to!).

Would be amazed if he plays another afl game for us, bone has broken up around the screws.

Would be amazed if he plays another afl game for us, bone has broken up around the screws.

Well that sounds like an unnatural occurrence. How the hell does that happen?

We are [censored].

Poor Jack, imagine how gutted he must feel. His sister is a marathon runner with perfect feet. Rubbish luck in the gene pool!

Well that sounds like an unnatural occurrence. How the hell does that happen?

We are [censored].

Poor Jack, imagine how gutted he must feel. His sister is a marathon runner with perfect feet. Rubbish luck in the gene pool!

No idea but can only assume from winding up the training levels. It was stated he was feeling soreness as he started to put more intensity into his training recently.

Would be amazed if he plays another afl game for us, bone has broken up around the screws.

If true, that is awful.

Do you honestly not think that Trengove actually injured it in overstrenuous testing during his medical?

I do.

I simply can't see the club putting the trade together, actively promoting it like it has gone through, and then being blindsided by an existing injury that presumably he was keeping to himself, or that they ignored.

He had the scans first.

Would be amazed if he plays another afl game for us, bone has broken up around the screws.

I admire the kids spirit. I acknowledge his desire to play for the Dees.

I think Jack is a realist. This is a grieving process in effect. Good luck mate. Athe list to play another games he alludes, he's luckier than many.

Be surprised if he makes the list to play another game

I wonder how hard Richmond flogged him on the track?

I wonder how hard Richmond flogged him on the track?

He wasn't on the track. They were scans.

He wasn't on the track. They were scans.

Really. They didn't train him at all?

Interesting.

We must have known it was line ball in that case.

2013 was a nightmare. Politics kept Trenners playing...

Fools.

Really. They didn't train him at all?

Interesting.

We must have known it was line ball in that case.

Or not.

Perhaps - just putting this out there, radical ideal I know - just perhaps, there was no conspiracy.

But nah, probably too obvious.