Gee whiz some of you guys are glass half empty people...

Gee whiz some of you guys are glass half empty people...

If people want to be negative about the Dees, they will resoundingly be correct more times than not.

1 hour and 40 minutes to do something, anything. C'mon Mahoney. Earn your money. Improve our list!!!

If nothing changes after this trade period, will it affect Mahoney's job security?

If nothing changes after this trade period, will it affect Mahoney's job security?

Sorry to be honest, but that is one of the silliest comments of the trade period!

Just reading between the lines but Mahoney publicly saying we're keeping all our picks looked a bit like they were putting pressure on another club who might have been umming and aahhing about a deal with us. Basically "these picks are there, take them or leave them and we'll gladly go to the draft."

Yep.

Mahoney saying to GWS "You need talls now with Giles and Boyd gone.

*Pick 3 in return for a good mid will net you either Mcartin or Wright.

*Pick 2 & 3 for a couple of your top mids and we'll then pay 23 for Frost, will net you almost whoever you want, ball is in your court".

If nothing changes after this trade period, will it affect Mahoney's job security?

No

What a stupid question. People are quick to forget his work along with Viney in getting Tyson Vince and Cross last year.

If nothing changes after this trade period, will it affect Mahoney's job security?

The trading isn't the province of just one person. A whole group is involved so you can't hang it all on Josh.

Too soon to call doom and gloom.

Surely we cant enter the 2015 season with approx. $1 million spare in the cap.

Roos says we must see improvement and not go through another re-build.

Find a trade, make it happen!

trade howe, pay his next 2 seasons with the deal out of next seasons cap. for P-6 + P-40 & frost

Hahhaha when it all goes to plan it is "Roos what work" with no kudos to anyone else. If it doesnt go to plan "is Mahoney position safe?" Ffs

We probably won't trade for Frost now as can get in PSD. Saints will be taking Membrey

The trading isn't the province of just one person. A whole group is involved so you can't hang it all on Josh.

Too soon to call doom and gloom.

Fair enough - new to this so just finding my way, appreciate the comments

Won't happen but would love to see us package 3 & 23 for Frost and any one of Shiel/Treloar/Greene/Smith/Coniglio even WHE.

Even mark neeld understood that trade period is more important to us than the real season...

trade howe, pay his next 2 seasons with the deal out of next seasons cap. for P-6 + P-40 & frost

that just sounds like another rebuild d-l

Well this has been a complete snooze-fest

So much so, I got more work done today than Melbourne has all week.

I thought we should have had a shot for Hallihan from the Hawks, 4 years in the system, tough nut. Gone to the Suns for late picks

Unless something drastic happens within 90 minutes, we are set for another bottom 3 finish.

Disappointing trade week.

I have no doubt that our recruiters have 'crawled over broken glass' to try to get 'quality' players to MFC, and they might yet do so, though it's starting to look unlikely.

The sad truth is that as a team, we offer less chance of on-field success than do nearly all other clubs. Given this we are an unattractive destination that would likely appeal only to those who could be paid well in excess of what they'd get at another club, those who are unlikely to get a regular game at their existing club, or masochists.

We have few players who would 'walk in to top sides' to use for trades, and if we traded them we could possibly be worse off. Any good young players we have can be 'poached' by the successful clubs under the guise of free agency after we have developed them.

The only likely way to entice a club to part with a 'gun' is to offer ridiculous compensation, such as picks 2 and 3 for one player. Though with our history of disappointing draftees, this might not be so ridiculous. Sylvia & McLean one year, Scully & Trengove another, are just some of our mediocre choices.

just get toby greene...........please

the scramble for the first couple of picks is likely to happen in the last half hour as clubs settle for the best deal they can get before trading ends

Also must be kept in mind we are very short on young talent- our previous draft failures have us with only a small handful of players who may actually carve out a successful AFL career.

If the worst thing that comes out of our failure to attract experienced mids this year is that we stock up on talented youngsters, then maybe that will provide us the springboard we need to actually develop our own group of dynamic players that will push us into the 8 and beyond.

It's not like the chance to bring in a gun through trades or FA is dead, it's just taken a back-seat right now to refining the "cake" element of the list

I agree that we have a "missing generation" now, with Scully/Blease/Tappy/Trenners/Strauss either gone or looking unlikely to play again.

There's no shortage of youth coming in though with Salem/JKH/Hunt last year, Stretch/Brayshaw/Lever/pick 23 this year, and Lovett next year with 2 others.

I fear the youth won't matter if we can't get off the bottom, because we'll keep bleeding free agents and contracted youngsters faster than we can replenish them. The Boyd (first year pick 1 player) and Griffen (club captain) defections set an ugly precedent for what's to come in the landscape of player movement.

I'm normally a very optimistic Melbourne supporter.. But unfortunately I just can't see any big improvements next year on the back of this trade period so far.. Looking at this years ladder.. GWS finished with 2 more wins above us.. they have added Griffen, Patfull and have a handful of picks in the top 10 to go with their current list of guns. Then above them? Brisbane.. who arguably now has one of the top 3 midfields in the comp. The gap between them and us IMO will grow and we will be lucky to hold off Saints for 17th spot end of next year.

The thing that worries me most, is keeping current players in the red and blue & making it an attractive destination for free agents.. We need to start winning and climbing up the ladder.. I just can't see it happening.

that just sounds like another rebuild d-l

rebuild is always happening DC. its a constant or should be.

our problem is we have kept getting shonky builders, & keep having to repair the work done.

we have proven builders now atmo.

& proven managers; not the ordinary Nth ern elect managers, but some highly recommended managers from the AFL deesciples.

just get toby greene...........please

He is a ball magnet and by far the most gettable of the lot too.....

how about this

out: 3, 23

in: Greene, frost & 6

are we there yet ??