No, not the band, but the postion we are in.

It would be trite to say we are devoid of talent/skill, pace, mental toughness and belief.

Many of us have discussed Priority Picks and some IMO have misguidedly said that is a loser's mindset. Well guess what, we are losers.

I was at 186, this was 187.

IMO we need far more than a PP, we need several.

Anyone who thinks we can get ahead of clubs like GWS and GC, who have been handed great lists by the AFL is dreaming.

Have a good look at the expression on Roos face after the game. He is stunned and shattered. He is a Premiership Coach. He is clearly feeling helpless.

We need to approach the AFL, with Roos and PJ explaining that we have had 8 years of this crap. That our donors, sponsors and members are at risk and therefore our financial viability is also at risk. This can't go on. What will it do to the broadcast negotiations? There is too much at stake.

We should be demanding several picks to try and right the situation. Even if some are given on the basis they must be traded, that would help as we could use our early picks in the draft and trade for better players than we have currently, with the PP's.

I am not suggesting this as a quick fix, but rather a method to make us competitive. I can't see any other working. For every player we draft so does every other club and generally we stuff it up.

IMO without immediate improvement the future of this club is at real risk.

I am not saying the AFL will give us anything, but we will have been totally negligent and derelict in our duty to the club's future, if we don't at least try.

The more charity we ask for ,the more easy it is to shut us down.

The group actually has to find something from within .

We should not put the hand out this time.

A priority pick MUST be a given. Under AFL policy, if we don't get a priority pick, they may as well bench/scrap the policy.

With Frawley leaving (another must) we should have picks 2,3 and 4. Sell two of them for top talent and keep Petracca.

The more charity we ask for ,the more easy it is to shut us down.

The group actually has to find something from within .

We should not put the hand out this time.

They have had 8 years to find something from within.

A priority pick MUST be a given. Under AFL policy, if we don't get a priority pick, they may as well bench/scrap the policy.

With Frawley leaving (another must) we should have picks 2,3 and 4. Sell two of them for top talent and keep Petracca.

We will not be given a PP.

The AFL do not care about the MFC.

We'll be lucky to get pick 3 compo for Frawley, once sides have a whinge - that will probably be relegated to pick 19 or 20.

Next year, we'll hear Gill say that it is up to the Demons to improve.

When you run a comp reactive to public opinion and backlash, it makes it hard to make simple - and logical - decisions.

We should've had a priority pick last year, we were absolute garbage.

Not for me. No more "helping the poor, little unsuccessful MFC". We find and/or develop from within through determination and a refusal to go under.

The other clubs will riot if we are given a priority pick, and rightly so.

When do you say enough? WHEN? Just beg forever?

They were a good band and we are a bad, bad, bad team

The more charity we ask for ,the more easy it is to shut us down.

The group actually has to find something from within .

We should not put the hand out this time.

Bullshite. If this means we are a charity, therefore so is GWS and GC. The AFL are committed to an 18 team competition. The TV rights deal cements this.

Put your hand out PJ. Gets picks and money for the club to pay 100% of its salary cap. We need attract good players and pay them.

Develop from within - develop superior moral fortitude, BLAH BLAH BLAH

WALK SLOWLY TOWARDS THE MACHINE GUNS LADS

FMD

They have had 8 years to find something from within.

Dead right. In the mid 60's the game started going professional - we we're caught napping and suffered for decades. Now the new expansion club's have come in it's changed the game again. Right now we need every bit of assistance we can get and pronto. To do otherwise would be amateurish and potentially terminal.

The other clubs will riot if we are given a priority pick, and rightly so.

When do you say enough? WHEN? Just beg forever?

Good for them. Let them "riot."

What can they actually do?

Good for them. Let them "riot."

What can they actually do?

Er - I thought that, collectively, they could deny us the PP.

Someone is impaled.

No, not the band, but the postion we are in.

It would be trite to say we are devoid of talent/skill, pace, mental toughness and belief.

Many of us have discussed Priority Picks and some IMO have misguidedly said that is a loser's mindset. Well guess what, we are losers.

I was at 186, this was 187.

IMO we need far more than a PP, we need several.

Anyone who thinks we can get ahead of clubs like GWS and GC, who have been handed great lists by the AFL is dreaming.

Have a good look at the expression on Roos face after the game. He is stunned and shattered. He is a Premiership Coach. He is clearly feeling helpless.

We need to approach the AFL, with Roos and PJ explaining that we have had 8 years of this crap. That our donors, sponsors and members are at risk and therefore our financial viability is also at risk. This can't go on. What will it do to the broadcast negotiations? There is too much at stake.

We should be demanding several picks to try and right the situation. Even if some are given on the basis they must be traded, that would help as we could use our early picks in the draft and trade for better players than we have currently, with the PP's.

I am not suggesting this as a quick fix, but rather a method to make us competitive. I can't see any other working. For every player we draft so does every other club and generally we stuff it up.

IMO without immediate improvement the future of this club is at real risk.

I am not saying the AFL will give us anything, but we will have been totally negligent and derelict in our duty to the club's future, if we don't at least try.

Bah, the AFL won't do a single thing!! For years we have held our own destiny in our own hands and we have drafted pathetically!!

Nup, we have no one to blame but our previous coaches and shizen recruiting people!

Et Tu Bruti?

Edited August 17, 201410 yr by picket fence

We won't be given a priority pick so forget about it. Look at some of the other clubs who are able to compete who have barely a top 10 pick in their whole team. Our club needs to stop looking for the quick fixes and realise the only success will come from hard work.

i feel so sorry for the people that think a priority pick will turn around the fortunes of this club. Have they not been watching the last few years? we are so beyond priority pick hope its not funny

Bah, the AFL won't do a single thing!! For years we have held our own destiny in our own hands and we have drafted pathetically!!

Nup, we have no one to blame but our previous coaches and shizen recruiting people!

Et Tu Bruti?

I think it is Et tu Brute but what do you mean, that we were done in by those we thought were on our side? Hmmm yes maybe you are right!

I think it is Et tu Brute but what do you mean, that we were done in by those we thought were on our side? Hmmm yes maybe you are right!

Yep!!

i feel so sorry for the people that think a priority pick will turn around the fortunes of this club. Have they not been watching the last few years? we are so beyond priority pick hope its not funny

Who said it was the answer? It helps if used properly. The club re structured due to the reason that others were not up to task. A priority pick could mean a lot with our new recruiting dept.

the bigger problem is

its not that we dont support them week in week out , yes we can sometimes think why and want to leave , I know I have

its not that we leave early somedays

its not that we travel and get crap times

its not that we have drafted that bad

the bigger problem and its huge , our kids are leaving the club and the club will have less supporters than GWS in years coming , and this is a major problem.

and don't think because we have melbourne in our name we are guaranteed

I fear for our club

the afl helped create this mess and we need help , they can either help or watch us fall further down , till we either fold, merge or relocate. don't think the tv rights will keep us alive , the tv rights $$$ will go down with so many one-sided games

the ratings will fall as will the $$$ , you can see the attendance's are lower and could continue this way

today I was at the game , paid for a special lunch and had the players function after the game , sad to say i left just as the game ended and came home , its been nearly 2 hours and i am still shell shocked at what i saw and couldn't give the effort to go after the game and see the players , I saw Paul Roos face and i am sure he is has shocked and upset as us , i watched him in the coaches box and i felt sorry for him.

today to me was as bad as I have seen in my 46 years as a supporter

Edited August 18, 201410 yr by markc

I think it is Et tu Brute but what do you mean, that we were done in by those we thought were on our side? Hmmm yes maybe you are right!

Good of you to break from your busy schedule Earl and give us the benefit of your wisdom.

BTW, it may be of interest to you, I spent some time among the "poor people" today.

Good of you to break from your busy schedule Earl and give us the benefit of your wisdom.

BTW, it may be of interest to you, I spent some time among the "poor people" today.

And what you learnt was......?

It's preferable to be rich!

Good of you to break from your busy schedule Earl and give us the benefit of your wisdom.

BTW, it may be of interest to you, I spent some time among the "poor people" today.

How are the family Bitty?