Changes v Port

[Samael 560]

IDK why JKH is being promoted as a possible replacement. He was hardly influential at Bendigo despite the possession count. Did a few nice things but went missing in the last quarter. I think he needs to bulk up a bit to be able to use his talents at AFL level.

I have a theory about the Casey reports. I reckon they are written after they decide who will be selected. I watch the reserves live and MFC on the Telly. The writers would have a field day with the AFL guys if they applied the same KPIs and to be honest I don't see that much of a difference. Having said that the TV does not give the same perspective as watching the game live and I do like to be above the ground level. Before you ask I prefer the two because the current AFL game is little better than Rugby Union which is the equivalent to me of watching an under 12s game of footy. Everybody at the ball.

I have another view on the "defensive" comments in the Casey games. The MFC/Casey guys get the ball forward but its turned over so many times that the opposition clearly anticipate and set up away from the contest so that the Casey guys are often out of position through poor up field work. Alison wasn't at Bendigo so the read will be interesting this week. For what its worth I think Blease must be given a shot this week, he has been very consistent.

[Dockett 32 1,213]

25 Possessions and 87 hit outs from Maxxy is hard to ignore, even given his previous weeks form. Hard to imagine how he could do much more to force his way back in. Maybe its time to be patient with him as we have with others.

[titan_uranus 22,237]

I'll continue to push for JKH to return to the side as he makes us a better team, notwithstanding that he's not doing as well at Casey as he should. Yes, that goes against what Roos has been doing all year which probably suggests it won't happen, but I want to see us make changes to make us better, and you can't tell me that JKH over Terlich isn't an improvement right now.

I think Tapscott will hold his spot, I don't see the point of playing him last week if we're going to judge him that quickly.

[Pennant St Dee 11,250]

IMO Gawny stays out despite the 87 hit outs, Ports strength are they are very mobile and whilst their defence has been very shaky without Carlisle and Trengove I think with Dawes, Frawley and Pedersen as our tall/marking forwards we can cause them problems. A few good weeks of Blease showing form and finally a FD making them earn their spots. Michie may be considered as we are missing Cross and need to add to our midfield rotations because some of our boys need the break.

Garland Dunn Jetta

Howe Tmac Grimes

Blease Tyson Vince

Watts Frawley Kent

Bail Dawes Pedersen

Jamar NJones Viney

Tapscott, Riley, Michie & MJones Tappy more than likely the sub, Pedersen to pinch hit in the ruck when Jamar needs a rest in the forward line.

Outs: Mckenzie & Terlich

[dtrinh 71]

Not sure about Maxxy, even though he had 87 hit outs Brad Miller said he wasn't dominant as in his hit outs weren't too advantage. Maxxy looks good as the number one ruckman because he can make his way around the ground and collect disposals and contested possessions. In the forward line he's still a liability... Not quick off the lead, doesn't chase hard to keep forward line pressure and isn't taking contested marks either. I think he needs a lot more development before he can take the mantle as no.1 ruckman.

[Axis of Bob 10,185]

IDK why JKH is being promoted as a possible replacement. He was hardly influential at Bendigo despite the possession count. Did a few nice things but went missing in the last quarter. I think he needs to bulk up a bit to be able to use his talents at AFL level.

I have a theory about the Casey reports. I reckon they are written after they decide who will be selected. I watch the reserves live and MFC on the Telly. The writers would have a field day with the AFL guys if they applied the same KPIs and to be honest I don't see that much of a difference. Having said that the TV does not give the same perspective as watching the game live and I do like to be above the ground level. Before you ask I prefer the two because the current AFL game is little better than Rugby Union which is the equivalent to me of watching an under 12s game of footy. Everybody at the ball.

I have another view on the "defensive" comments in the Casey games. The MFC/Casey guys get the ball forward but its turned over so many times that the opposition clearly anticipate and set up away from the contest so that the Casey guys are often out of position through poor up field work. Alison wasn't at Bendigo so the read will be interesting this week. For what its worth I think Blease must be given a shot this week, he has been very consistent.

Brad Miller wrote the comments, not Allison.

You have a problem with the defensive comments. Is that because you don't notice it, and then get shocked that the game you saw and the one they saw appear to be different? I can't see why they would bother trying to make false comments about players in the VFL - that just sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory to justify why your favourite player/s get crap reviews.

The defensive side of the game is super important, especially if you want to be a good team. Good team players don't complain about defence or make excuses as to why they can't do it, they just do it. Each player is also given a role to play and the only people who know that role are the players and coaches.

I am backing their views on what is expected of players.

[Samael 560]

Brad Miller wrote the comments, not Allison.

You have a problem with the defensive comments. Is that because you don't notice it, and then get shocked that the game you saw and the one they saw appear to be different? I can't see why they would bother trying to make false comments about players in the VFL - that just sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory to justify why your favourite player/s get crap reviews.

The defensive side of the game is super important, especially if you want to be a good team. Good team players don't complain about defence or make excuses as to why they can't do it, they just do it. Each player is also given a role to play and the only people who know that role are the players and coaches.

I am backing their views on what is expected of players.

Don't know where you get that I am shocked that I have a differing opinion to that of the reviewers, they would know what the roles were for each player. I was merely saying that the "defense" failures are trotted out often with no real definition and absolutely no recognition that the Casey team is particularly adept at turning the ball over which more often than not is anticipated by the opposition who have transitioned into offence when the Casey players do indeed turn it over. Also happens in the seniors

Don,t know any players so i really do not understand your point about complaining and or making excuses. I certainly did not infer that in my post.

I actually find Brad Millers reviews far more informative than Brett Alison's. I think you will find I have been just as critical in the past and after the Box Hill Game thought no one from Casey should have been promoted. Also the Ballarat game. I just happen to think that the reviews are tailored to the selection. But that is my opinion based on what I have seen live at the game.

[Axis of Bob 10,185]

Don't know where you get that I am shocked that I have a differing opinion to that of the reviewers, they would know what the roles were for each player. I was merely saying that the "defense" failures are trotted out often with no real definition and absolutely no recognition that the Casey team is particularly adept at turning the ball over which more often than not is anticipated by the opposition who have transitioned into offence when the Casey players do indeed turn it over. Also happens in the seniors

The defence comments are actually quite detailed. Look at the difference between the comments for Strauss (concentration), Georgiou (wrestling technique), Michie (defensive transition), Nicholson (letting his opponent lead him to the ball) and Evans (positioning, in previous weeks). They relate to different things. Turning the ball over doesn't stop people playing their role.

Don,t know any players so i really do not understand your point about complaining and or making excuses. I certainly did not infer that in my post.

I actually find Brad Millers reviews far more informative than Brett Alison's. I think you will find I have been just as critical in the past and after the Box Hill Game thought no one from Casey should have been promoted. Also the Ballarat game. I just happen to think that the reviews are tailored to the selection. But that is my opinion based on what I have seen live at the game.

Have you thought that maybe selection is tailored to the reviews?

[Deez 298]

although Gawn had the 80 hit outs, it was against bendigo gold.

jimmy magner and tom couch notched something like 48 possessions against bendigo gold last year and couldn't get another run in the seniors.

not a great comparison between players by any means, but the opposition remains the same.

jamar might have had 100 hit outs had he played.

[Deecisive 1,651]

Roos needs to give a few players who are on the cusp of being cut a chance to play for their spots so you may see slightly more changes than usual. I would like to see fitzpatrick at FF and dawes at CF. he can also help out in the ruck when needed. Blease in, Fitzy in, clisby in. Out Mckenzie, tappy, Terlich

[bing181 8,151]

Great to see at least some of the players responding. Blease edging closer you would think, but this week with no forced outs?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I think that Melbourne have been a worse team and look less likely to score since JKH was the sub against Collingwood. Maybe it is pure coincidence but I really think he adds a whole lot to the side and is a must to come in.

[What 18,810]

We need some X factor and speed

Out with the dead wood in with some spark

In - JKH, Blease

Out Bail, Terlich

[Demon3 2,541]

Ports weakness in Talls down back. Richmond did it beautifully on Sunday and exploited it. 17 marks to 5 inside 50. moved it quick, put them under pressure.

Blease Frawley Watts

Kent Dawes Pederson

ins: Blease

Out: Bail.

[timD 994]

I think that Melbourne have been a worse team and look less likely to score since JKH was the sub against Collingwood. Maybe it is pure coincidence but I really think he adds a whole lot to the side and is a must to come in.

I agree, but am mindful of Roos stating that the MFC must not rely on kids. I do wonder about whether Roos is happy to see kids develop the right way and not just use them for what they are immediately good at. Just a thought.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I agree, but am mindful of Roos stating that the MFC must not rely on kids. I do wonder about whether Roos is happy to see kids develop the right way and not just use them for what they are immediately good at. Just a thought.

No doubt, but I would like to see Melbourne kick more than five goals per game at the same time.

[jazza 1,323]

I think that Melbourne have been a worse team and look less likely to score since JKH was the sub against Collingwood. Maybe it is pure coincidence but I really think he adds a whole lot to the side and is a must to come in.

Although i think JKH is a bit out of his depth at this stage.

We need a young smart alec who just runs like the wind{garlett carlton}and tries to kick the impossible.

So JKH would suit my team at this stage

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Although i think JKH is a bit out of his depth at this stage.

We need a young smart alec who just runs like the wind{garlett carlton}and tries to kick the impossible.

So JKH would suit my team at this stage

JKH is one of the few Melbourne players in the past decade who constantly runs and is always moving to provide an option, that's what I love about him.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Clint Bizkit

[Scipio 5,868]

I believe Michie, Kennedy-Harris, Blease and Clisby are all possibilities for this week although we won't have four changes.

Personally I'd like to see Clisby back in the firsts and it sounds as though he hasn't done much wrong for Casey. Surely Blease has earned his call up.

[daisycutter 28,480]

at this time of the year and given our state of the list and no finals prospects, coaches tend to look at list management issues more-so than maybe picking the best 22.

by list management here i mean genuine list management and not tanking-type list management

in all likelihood there will be big list changes so last-chance games will be offered and younger players rested

i think team selections here on in will increasingly reflect this, except maybe for the two obvious winnable games

expect to see some debatable selections

[beelzebub 22,225]

at this time of the year and given our state of the list and no finals prospects, coaches tend to look at list management issues more-so than maybe picking the best 22.

by list management here i mean genuine list management and not tanking-type list management

in all likelihood there will be big list changes so last-chance games will be offered and younger players rested

i think team selections here on in will increasingly reflect this, except maybe for the two obvious winnable games

expect to see some debatable selections

can only be

iiiiitttttttt'ssss....e-val-uaaaaaa-tttion time !!!

get those cards out and lead pencils at the ready !!!!

now on a scale of 1 through 10 lets grade everyone

[old dee 22,819]

can only be

iiiiitttttttt'ssss....e-val-uaaaaaa-tttion time !!!

get those cards out and lead pencils at the ready !!!!

now on a scale of 1 through 10 lets grade everyone

Think you will only need one hand bb

[beelzebub 22,225]

Think you will only need one hand bb

Im going to take you mean we're counting !! lol

[71 Molloy 266]

Bail out PLLEEEASEEE. Couldn't give a flying after that.

[old dee 22,819]

Im going to take you mean we're counting !! lol

Yes I now see the problem