I have watched PR all year and today he was gutted. He is obviously working his backside off with this bunch.

He has inherited some very ordinary footballers that must be marked for moving on. The club does not have the time to persist with players who are slow inconsistent thinkers.

PR even concedes some of this bunch do not understand AFL football....just get rid of those individuals.

PR needs 3 more yrs in my opinion to recruit and build a list. We have so many duds!!!

I have watched PR all year and today he was gutted. He is obviously working his backside off with this bunch.

He has inherited some very ordinary footballers that must be marked for moving on. The club does not have the time to persist with players who are slow inconsistent thinkers.

PR even concedes some of this bunch do not understand AFL football....just get rid of those individuals.

PR needs 3 more yrs in my opinion to recruit and build a list. We have so many duds!!!

I think his frustration would also include the Casey performances as well. He would be looking down there and scratching his head about who he truly brings into the side. There are players in our side he wants to drop and nobody below banging the door down to be selected.

Priority Pick anyone??? as I duck for cover.

Tell ya what Rjay if we dont win another game we might be a chance

It's clear we are starting from so far back. Roos obviously knows this but nonetheless looked gutted - not so much from the loss but the first half and the lack of care exhibited by players who could and should do better.

I think his frustration would also include the Casey performances as well. He would be looking down there and scratching his head about who he truly brings into the side. There are players in our side he wants to drop and nobody below banging the door down to be selected.

Haven't seen him once down there.

Those first poor 40 minutes came through very strongly in PR presser. So who was up for it and who wasn't?

Geez he looks gutted doesn't he?

I still don't reckon we our that far off, our best is probably top 8 standard if you take out the skill errors, but our worst is horrible

It's hard to just think last year we had 7 100.plus point losses this year has been none, our worst is 94 second worst is 41

The improvement is there but clearly everyone is over losing and wants the wins now

We just do not have class, poise and polish. The lot of a demon supporter.

Priority Pick anyone??? as I duck for cover.

We won't get a PP.

We have Hogan coming in next year - top 3 pick.

Toumpas coming in - top 5 pick.

Up and coming pick inside the 5-6 range mark.

That will be enough to get by and remain somewhat competitive.

The poor sides won't get a leg up off the AFL - and I think they should.

Throw Bullies, St Kilda, Dees and Bribane all PP's IMO.

From this presser there can be no doubting Roos emotional commitment to the cause.

Haven't seen him once down there.

Do you blame him? Don't you think he already has enough to do without going to Casey?

The footage he gets would be more than enough to know exactly what's going on down there.

Tell ya what Rjay if we dont win another game we might be a chance

No chance.

It's clear we are starting from so far back. Roos obviously knows this but nonetheless looked gutted - not so much from the loss but the first half and the lack of care exhibited by players who could and should do better.

How can you expect to win in the AFL if you are not prepapred to run, are constantly led to the ball and stand around flat footed when your teammates have the footy?

From this presser there can be no doubting Roos emotional commitment to the cause.

....... and is becoming as frustrated as any lifelong Demons supporter :-)

Tell ya what Rjay if we dont win another game we might be a chance

If we didn't get a priority pick with 2 wins and constant 60+ point losses in one season, how can we get one with 4 wins and take out the Eagles game, we haven't lost a match above 40 points?

It takes strong culture & leadership to ensure the playing group is switched on from the first bounce....

We are expecting way too much from players such as Tyson, Salem & Viney to dominate with les than 50 games between them...

Need to look at players who have played 100 games & yet continue to make dumb decisions!

We are no chance for a priority pick. To suggest otherwise is rather silly IMO.

We have won double the games of last year at an average losing margin of, what, half? We've knocked off some reasonable sides (as opposed to merely bottom 4 sides) and we have been in winning positions in about 6 of our losses.

Moreover, our list is in better health than St Kilda's, and arguably also Brisbane, Richmond and Carlton's.

We won't end the year the most needing of a PP, and even if we were, we wouldn't get it.

The AFL should take a good hard look at themselves when they start complaining about the "ugly" footy they have half the league now forced to play. They took the cream of the nation's talent and divided it between two franchise teams for 5 painful years, and we're now seeing how detrimental that was to the league as a whole.

Their greedy thirst for money and billion dollar broadcast rights will cost them in the long run, with so many teams now filled to the brim with diluted talent; packs of players who simply do not have the skill and class of players due to insanely shortsighted draft sanctions given to GWS and GCS. This will be a lengthy, painful mistake that'll take the better part of a decade to iron out in the league as a whole, and that'll be right around the time they start proposing a 19th and 20th team to [censored] it all up again.

This mess is the AFL's making. We bottomed out at the worst possible time. Not only the introduction of two new teams, effectively taking every shred of talent in the country, but with the introduction of free agency strong teams will now remain strong as they cherry pick any sign of talent from lowly teams, who will be destined to remain cellar dwellars.

I think his frustration would also include the Casey performances as well. He would be looking down there and scratching his head about who he truly brings into the side. There are players in our side he wants to drop and nobody below banging the door down to be selected.

The Casey debacle is exactly the sort of reason that will prevent Roos from committing to the club long term. That is, as Senior Coach. That's why he's all airy fairy about his contract, IMO. I hope we can fix this soon.

He wasn't as shattered as Neeldy was after round 2 last year but he was pretty cut up about today.
I like the fact that he said he isn't getting the job done but I do worry about how much to heart he is taking this on a human level.
He is clearly working his backside off. In the end, all the work in the world mightn't turn around this bunch.

Big cull at years end is simply a must.

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Big cull at years end is simply a must.

Alternatively, we could just delist the players who aren't making the grade, the same as every other year.

There is a cd called "America's Song Butchers: The Weird World Of Homer and Jethro"

We are "Australia's AFL Butchers: The Weird World Of The Melbourne Football Team"

I bet Paul Roos is wishing he stayed in the media now.

It is not the fault of PR. It is the total lack of professionalism of the players.

PR should make the players watch the women's team that represented the Melbourne football team time after time until they get the message. By the way the women defeated the Western Bulldogs 72 to 26.

Or did we have the wrong gender playing for the 4 points?

If we didn't get a priority pick with 2 wins and constant 60+ point losses in one season, how can we get one with 4 wins and take out the Eagles game, we haven't lost a match above 40 points?

struggling to think of a worse team than us last year, how can any team get one if we didnt